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Afraid neither of us have a say in the matter. I'd rather they focus on making the Mac more efficient with the resources given, maybe beef up their software offerings that they already have, but I'm not head of OS X development.

It will continue, though.

They should be focusing on iWork, which hasn't been updated in how many years? 4.

Instead, they've switched to a yearly release schedule, so that they can make older yet still capable Mac's obsolete faster.
 
I starting to feel in 10.9 we will have fingerprint (in place or with passwords) in Magic Track pads and laptop trackpads. I feel if it comes in the iPhone it will show in the next OS X update.

Current gen trackpads can't read your fingerprints.
 
This is because so many things require complex passwords to log into anything that need to be changed on regular basis. With fingerprint technology you can limit a lot of this. This is why so many people are interested.

I get how it could be great.

But it seems pretty pointless in, say, a laptop. If you have such important information that you need one, your company can already hook up a fingerprint reader.

This doesn't seem like something that has much use in a consumer market. But I guess it just sounds cool.

Oh, and a majority of users will just continue to use a password. Remember when Android added picture authentication? Do you really think a majority of people actually use it? It's just easier to have the password be a... well... password.
 
I get how it could be great.

But it seems pretty pointless in, say, a laptop. If you have such important information that you need one, your company can already hook up a fingerprint reader.

This doesn't seem like something that has much use in a consumer market. But I guess it just sounds cool.

Oh, and a majority of users will just continue to use a password. Remember when Android added picture authentication? Do you really think a majority of people actually use it? It's just easier to have the password be a... well... password.

Picture identification is a poor substitute. It's slower, more cumbersome, and less accurate. It can also be tricked.
 
This is because so many things require complex passwords to log into anything that need to be changed on regular basis. With fingerprint technology you can limit a lot of this. This is why so many people are interested.
The most passwords you need to remember are for online/web accounts. They don't support a fingerprint reader. So they can only use it to install apps and login to your computer? That's gimmicky and not needed. In your iPhone i can see the purpose of it. iPhones is easily stolen and its allready a touchscreen device.
 
They should be focusing on iWork, which hasn't been updated in how many years? 4.

Instead, they've switched to a yearly release schedule, so that they can make older yet still capable Mac's obsolete faster.


Agree with you 100% they really need to update iWork if they truly want to compete with office, etc- and more integration with iCloud.
 
And you think a fingerprint scanner, a mass produced one, will be the most perfect thing ever?

I didn't say the "most perfect thing ever". Do I think a fingerprint sensor (one built into the trackpad, or lcd in a phone) would be a good thing, and superior to current implementations of picture unlock? Yes.
 
I didn't say the "most perfect thing ever". Do I think a fingerprint sensor (one built into the trackpad, or lcd in a phone) would be a good thing, and superior to current implementations of picture unlock? Yes.

Then we're going to have to agree to disagree.

I feel it will be just as gimmicky and buggy, and just as used.
 
Then we're going to have to agree to disagree.

I feel it will be just as gimmicky and buggy, and just as used.

Assuming it works properly and detects your fingerprint accurately, why would it be gimmicky? One possible use is knowing which user to log in as based on fingerprint. On a phone, it could eliminate passwords altogether. Slide to unlock with another fingerprint just wouldn't work. You don't find either of those things useful?
 
Assuming it works properly and detects your fingerprint accurately, why would it be gimmicky? One possible use is knowing which user to log in as based on fingerprint. On a phone, it could eliminate passwords altogether. Slide to unlock with another fingerprint just wouldn't work. You don't find either of those things useful?

On phones (and tablets), I could see this being of great use.

On laptops, that's where I think it would be a gimmick. How would it be a gimmick? A gimmick is something that would be of little relevance or use. If laptops were stolen as easily as a phone or tablet, then it might be useful. I doubt many people need something stronger than a password for their laptop, though.

And if they do, there are already fingerprint scanners that wouldn't have to be in the trackpad itself.

What is good for mobile isn't always good for laptop. They're different form factors, and they should be treated as such. The only way they wouldn't be is if Apple came out with their own version of a Surface, which I doubt they ever will.

That would definitely be a... unique experience.
 
On phones (and tablets), I could see this being of great use.

On laptops, that's where I think it would be a gimmick. How would it be a gimmick? A gimmick is something that would be of little relevance or use. If laptops were stolen as easily as a phone or tablet, then it might be useful. I doubt many people need something stronger than a password for their laptop, though.

And if they do, there are already fingerprint scanners that wouldn't have to be in the trackpad itself.

What is good for mobile isn't always good for laptop. They're different form factors, and they should be treated as such. The only way they wouldn't be is if Apple came out with their own version of a Surface, which I doubt they ever will.

That would definitely be a... unique experience.

I think a fingerprint reader tied into something like 1Password that works with apps and websites would be a huge time saver. Sync access across all Mac and iOS devices and you have the strongest tie in to the Apple ecosystem yet.

My major concern is that I don't consider a fingerprint to be as secure as a password. It's like a good password that you write all over your device in invisible ink. Easily accessible with the right tools and know how.

However, I think this point is reasonably addressed by requiring password authentication at preset intervals or under certain conditions (again, like 1Password).
 
I think a fingerprint reader tied into something like 1Password that works with apps and websites would be a huge time saver. Sync access across all Mac and iOS devices and you have the strongest tie in to the Apple ecosystem yet.

My major concern is that I don't consider a fingerprint to be as secure as a password. It's like a good password that you write all over your device in invisible ink. Easily accessible with the right tools and know how.

However, I think this point is reasonably addressed by requiring password authentication at preset intervals or under certain conditions (again, like 1Password).

Somebody's been watching too many spy movies. >_>;
 
My list of things I would like to see-

1. Siri
2. Better use of notifications in NC (like weather and stock widgets, and more consistent notifications with things like FaceBook)
3. Enable reminders app to go into full screen (why is this not a feature :confused:)
4. Wouldn't mind a few UI changes ;)
5. Customizable gesture support
6. enable old style expose as an option (I know they won't but one can wish :p)
7. Faster shutdown :D
8. Make the 2D dock an option in system preferences (Sooo many people use it… it's time they made it official :p)
9. More of a clean and subtle look to the skeuomorphed apps. I don't hate the look… I just wish they could dial it down a bit.
 
Yes. Is that a trick question? Online banking is pretty mainstream to me.

So now people are going to be somehow using their fingerprints to access websites on the internet? That'd take a bit more work than just on Apple's end, really.
 
So now people are going to be somehow using their fingerprints to access websites on the internet? That'd take a bit more work than just on Apple's end, really.

Why? Have you never used saved passwords in Safari or an app like 1Password? Same thing except you need to submit your fingerprint to have your password entered.
 
Why? Have you never used saved passwords in Safari or an app like 1Password? Same thing except you need to submit your fingerprint to have your password entered.

...

That's the silliest thing I have ever read. Yes, you'd be able to use your fingerprint to put in your password. That'd make everything faster. You'd still have a password, though, so it's hardly making it any more secure.

It'd stop keylogging, I guess.

But it's not replacing your password.
 
They should be focusing on iWork, which hasn't been updated in how many years? 4.

Instead, they've switched to a yearly release schedule, so that they can make older yet still capable Mac's obsolete faster.

Nail on the head here.
 
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