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Wrong. Windows 8 took 14 month to be on 8.02% of their user-base.
Mac did 7.66% of their user-base in just 24-hours.
yes you can compare as not every desktop or laptop out there is on windows (e.g linux, bsd etc)

Wrong, it is of all desktops and laptops. That is why their entire market share after 14 months was slightly over 8% for Windows 8. It isn't the same, stop being dishonest. And even that is being dishonest, really. Statistics are the most dishonest thing ever.

Imagine there were two companies. One had 1,000,000,000 customers and the other had one tenth of that. The bigger company gains a fourth more users over the course of a year. The smaller one doubles their users. Who won more?

According to percentages, the smaller one. According to numbers, the bigger one.
 
absolutely. he understands that free for instance does matter. it might be only $20-30 but still it does.

i see the newest story is microsoft bashing iwork and ipads and im sure everyone here is up in arms but this is what cook, schiller and cue do onstage. "our competitors yada yada yada"

be content with your own product and its quality and that will carry you to success.

Bravo. {Insert clapping smilie here}
 
Speak for yourself I and many of my friends and family use iTunes Radio.

I use it. I was happy with it, in the beginning. Now my problems with it are:

1. I have to turn iTunes Match on my iPhone and not get bombarded with Ads (which is the number one reason I'd use this over Pandora since I already have a Match account). This used to not be a big issue until with iOS7 turning it on wipes out your sync'd music. Big problem, I frequently end up in areas with no cell service, let alone data service and I don't want to burn my data plan on things I should have access to all the time anyway. iTunes Match overall has been buggy as hell in iOS7 for me, in fact I'm pretty sure it just decides to delete music from my device to make room for other stuff, WHICH I DON'T WANT IT TO. If I download something to my device, I want it there, ALWAYS. Then there was a point where it just decided to duplicate every album I had downloaded showing multiple copies of songs and generally forcing me to start over from scratch. When downloading large playlists, there's no way to easily clear the queue. I think I could go on and on, but generally, I want access to iTunes Radio without being forced into the remainder if the remainder isn't going to work like I need it to. On all of my other devices (like my extra libraries on other computers, appletvs and iPad), it's fine and works like I need it to. Ultimately, why can't I just tell my phone that I have an account and have it work ad free without forcing me to do something else I don't want to do.
2. Then I realized it wasn't working like I had hoped for playing music. I have a pearl jam station and no matter how many times I "don't play this" for songs not by Pearl Jam, iTunes radio insists I want to listen to other bands and I get maybe one Pearl Jam song an hour. Not cool, Pandora in ad supported mode gets this and my Pearl Jam station only interjects another band every few songs and they're generally on the mark. I have another station tagged with a dozen artists all in the same genre, and it's the same thing, I get maybe one song from an artist on the list and then a dozen songs from people I don't want to listen to.
3. Then I realized there wasn't any variety. I started hearing the EXACT same songs over and over again on stations.

I've tried moving those sliders, I've tried adding more "seed" bands and songs. It doesn't seem to do anything.

I'd love for someone to tell me I'm doing something wrong, but ultimately I'm looking to just head back over to Pandora on my iPhone.
 
Mavericks breathed new life into my 2008 unibody MacBook. I was worried the 2.0Ghz C2D and 9400m would struggle (and I'm coming from Snow Leopard on top of it), but I was wrong. Everything is super quick and while theres a little slowdown in some places, it's nothing surprising or shocking considering the age of my machine.

Only thing throwing me off is scrolling within folders. Sometimes in the finder, if I'm scrolling through a list of files, it will just get stuck or stop and I have to move my mouse off of the finder window and back again to get it to work. Overall, scrolling isn't as good in the finder as it was in SL. It's actually quite annoying. Has anyone else experienced this or is it just normal for it to be finnicky? SL never had the elastic scrolling like Lion and ML did, so maybe I'm just being picky, but it is rather annoying to me.
 
Mavericks breathed new life into my 2008 unibody MacBook. I was worried the 2.0Ghz C2D and 9400m would struggle (and I'm coming from Snow Leopard on top of it), but I was wrong. Everything is super quick and while theres a little slowdown in some places, it's nothing surprising or shocking considering the age of my machine.

Only thing throwing me off is scrolling within folders. Sometimes in the finder, if I'm scrolling through a list of files, it will just get stuck or stop and I have to move my mouse off of the finder window and back again to get it to work. Overall, scrolling isn't as good in the finder as it was in SL. It's actually quite annoying. Has anyone else experienced this or is it just normal for it to be finnicky? SL never had the elastic scrolling like Lion and ML did, so maybe I'm just being picky, but it is rather annoying to me.

I installed Mavericks on my Quad core 2.3 Ghx i7 Mac Mini that I purchased last week for the office, my wife's dual core 2.7 i7 Mac mini running 16 GB of Ram, and my late 2008 Alum Macbook (upgraded to 8 gigs of ram and a 64 GIG Crucial M4-CT064M4SSD2 SSD drive ). I notice the most difference on the Macbook. Safari is faster and battery life has improved, even on the original battery from the fall of 2008. Between Mavericks, the SSD and the Ram upgrade this old Al Macbook does great for me.
 
Lets's get that pecentage up more ....

I think this is a 'given' to Apple now.

after any event, we'll see "...some new thing just sold within x hour", jist likw we saw the iPhone 5s sold more than 9 million in the first weekend after launch.
 
I registered just to say this...

I've been lurking this site for years and while I don't have the tech knowledge of most posters here (though I've been using Macs since grade school, and I'm in my mid 30's) I wanted to register just to say the following.

My March '09 iMac was on death row for the past six months. We could barely do anything without getting the dreaded color wheel. We updated, cleaned, had the Mac physically cleaned at an Apple Store, but it seemed our 24 inch beauty was on it's deathbed.

Then Mavericks.

No color wheel in two days. Everything loads perfectly - quickly. Smoothly. Apps we gave up on run great again. Apps we still used run as promised.

It's a bold move for Apple - they literally had $1,800 of my money ready to be spent on a new iMac and set themselves back for a year. I used to sometimes think Apple put poison pills in its software so you had to buy new software. The color wheel may be back tomorrow for all I know, but this gives me hope we can squeeze another few months or more from our iMac. Ironically, if this update cost any money at all, we would have nixed it and just bought new, assuming it wouldn't help.

Ok, back to lurking.
 
Free turns a lot of people into early adopters :D

I'm still going to wait until 10.9.1. Just superstitious I guess. And I've been running the DP's on a spare Mac.

The DP's have been solid since beta 1. Not sure what you're waiting for mate.
 
Then I realized it wasn't working like I had hoped for playing music. I have a pearl jam station and no matter how many times I "don't play this" for songs not by Pearl Jam, iTunes radio insists I want to listen to other bands and I get maybe one Pearl Jam song an hour.

All right; I understand expecting things to work the way they're supposed to and all that, but setting that aside: why use a radio service if you only want to listen to one band? Seems like a shuffled playlist of their music would be easier and more efficient... and, even if you don't already have their music, cheaper in the long run, since there's no data usage involved.
 
It's free, which is a win/win scenario. The consumer pays nothing, and Apple is let off the hook when it comes to quick response time to bug fixes. Yet I don't think they will abuse that, Apple will do the right thing. Because the consumers already complain, there's nothing new on that end. On Apple's end this simply takes the pressure off Apple when it comes to hustling to fix it.
 
Hopefully this is the second coming of Snow Leopard. That OS was solid despite its lack of new features.

It was when they fixed the SERIOUS bugs it had on release.

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You are right, I am ML user will not update even the software is free. IPhoto is gone from Mavericks. Say soyonara to the new osx.

iPhoto is NOT gone. If you have iLife 11, you'll get iLife 13. iLife never came with OS X, it came with the Mac.
 
Complaints about Mavericks: none. It's fkin awesome!

The OS itself looks fine to me.

The crippled "cloudy" Apple software suite (iWorks, iMovie, iPhoto, Garageband, etc), which I own and some I had paid for, is a big negative. I'm reading everywhere that they dumbed down most of the advanced features of such software. I'll be a holdout until I hear otherwise. MtLion works great for me.
 
Must.
Not.
Get.
It.
Now.

Will wait until someone try it out first...
Kind of risky to try something like this with a 09 iMac...



That is so morally wrong, but still funny as heck!:D

Running it just fine on a late '09 iMac 27"

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The OS itself looks fine to me.

The crippled "cloudy" Apple software suite (iWorks, iMovie, iPhoto, Garageband, etc), which I own and some I had paid for, is a big negative. I'm reading everywhere that they dumbed down most of the advanced features of such software. I'll be a holdout until I hear otherwise. MtLion works great for me.


You can upgrade to Mavericks and not update your apps if you so wish. Then your iLife and iWork suites will remain at '11 and '09 respectively.
 
You can upgrade to Mavericks and not update your apps if you so wish. Then your iLife and iWork suites will remain at '11 and '09 respectively.

Aha! That's good to hear then. I was under the impression that by upgrading to Mavericks, it would automatically upgrade all my Apple software suites (iWork, iMovie, iPhoto, GarageBand, etc) to the OS 10.9 versions.
 
Aha! That's good to hear then. I was under the impression that by upgrading to Mavericks, it would automatically upgrade all my Apple software suites (iWork, iMovie, iPhoto, GarageBand, etc) to the OS 10.9 versions.

And even if you do update, it has iWork 09 in a folder in your applications folder. That way you can occasionally check to see if they've fixed iWork for you in the new version.
 
I updated on Friday night

I have not seen any improvements or changes from ML since the install on my 2010 iMac.

Safari temporarily freaked out on me yesterday.

I also had to reboot a couple of times to delete an old Time Machine back up from my external hard drive.

These were resolved, so now I look forward to the good things in Mavericks.
 
Wow, people are really stretching logic here. It took Apple 24-hours to get to 7.66% of their user base. It took Windows 8 14 months to be on 8.02% of ALL DESKTOPS AND LAPTOPS. There's a huge difference.
Mac user base =/= Windows user base. ;)

Globally, Windows still holds better than 85% market share. So naturally it would take longer to reach 8% of all Windows systems.
 
Mac user base =/= Windows user base. ;)

Globally, Windows still holds better than 85% market share. So naturally it would take longer to reach 8% of all Windows systems.

That was kind of my point.

Edit: Except it's even worse, because it didn't take a year to get to 8% of their marketshare but 8% of THE desktop OS marketshare.
 
Running it just fine on a late '09 iMac 27"

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You can upgrade to Mavericks and not update your apps if you so wish. Then your iLife and iWork suites will remain at '11 and '09 respectively.

Same here...late 09 iMac 27". The concern is not the OS itself only, but all the other apps...:confused:
 
What accounts for the daily fluctuations on the GoSquared graph?
https://www.gosquared.com/mavericks/

I've been following it since this thread began and patterns emerged early on. They periodic nature has remained although the Maverick adoption rate continues to climb steadily.

Are there more SnowLeopard/Lion users on the west coast? Why the spike in their usage at the same times that Mavericks subsides?
 
I like Mavericks.

The only thing I don't like is the way the dock and top bar behave when you have multiple monitors.

I have a dock on every single one of my screens, and which screen it wants to work on is very inconsistent.
 
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