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The method is the same as any other previous issues of the OS X from Lion onward, involving the extraction on the InstallESD.dmg file from the package and copying to an external bootable drive. Apple hasn't changed the install file to my knowledge.

NO!

It is totally different in mavericks.

I won't bore you with the tortuous details of the change starting with DP1 (involving manipulating invisible files and other such shenanigans) . But one consequence of that was that apple then made a new createinstallmedia executable file made for precisely this purpose in DP4 without such shenanigans.

The method for the GM is very similar to DP4, but with slightly different file names:

After formatting an 8GB USB as Mac OS Extended (Journaled) and naming it Untitled, run this in terminal:

sudo /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ Mavericks.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/Untitled --applicationpath /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ Mavericks.app --nointeraction

Be patient. It takes quite a while to complete.

But once it does, you can boot up from it by holding the option key down whilst booting.
 
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If we don't support the Mac with our money, Apple could abandon it sooner than we want - keep that in mind when making demands for free stuff.
Because we are not paying a premium on hardware already? The Mac business alone would be a fortune 500 company. I suspect Apple will abandon it any time now. :D
It's funny how people complain about paying $19.99 for ML. Guess they weren't around to pay $129 for Leopard.
Of course not. The Mac Installed Base doubled since Leopard. And your first OSX is always free anyway.
 
NO!

It is totally different in mavericks.

I won't bore you with the tortuous details of the change starting with DP1 (involving manipulating invisible files and other such shenanigans) . But one consequence of that was that apple then made a new createinstallmedia executable file made for precisely this purpose in DP4 without such shenanigans.

The method for the GM is very similar to DP4, but with slightly different file names:

After formatting an 8GB USB as Mac OS Extended (Journaled) and naming it Untitled, run this in terminal:

sudo /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ Mavericks.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/Untitled --applicationpath /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ Mavericks.app --nointeraction

Be patient. It takes quite a while to complete.

But once it does, you can boot up from it by holding the option key down whist booting.

I think I read somewhere that the above procedure is the only way you will also get a recovery partition installed. I think the InstallESD approach doesn't create a recovery partition?? Something to do with BaseSystem.dmg missing??

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NO!

It is totally different in mavericks.

I won't bore you with the tortuous details of the change starting with DP1 (involving manipulating invisible files and other such shenanigans) . But one consequence of that was that apple then made a new createinstallmedia executable file made for precisely this purpose in DP4 without such shenanigans.

The method for the GM is very similar to DP4, but with slightly different file names:

After formatting an 8GB USB as Mac OS Extended (Journaled) and naming it Untitled, run this in terminal:

sudo /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ Mavericks.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/Untitled --applicationpath /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ Mavericks.app --nointeraction

Be patient. It takes quite a while to complete.

But once it does, you can boot up from it by holding the option key down whist booting.

Sorry if this is a potentially dumb question...

If I have a USB stick that's >8GB, can I create an 8GB partition as the first partition and run this command. Then later create another partition on the additional space and use that for other stuff?

Or does this expect to be the only partition on the stick?
 
I think I read somewhere that the above procedure is the only way you will also get a recovery partition installed. I think the InstallESD approach doesn't create a recovery partition?? Something to do with BaseSystem.dmg missing??

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Sorry if this is a potentially dumb question...

If I have a USB stick that's >8GB, can I create an 8GB partition as the first partition and run this command. Then later create another partition on the additional space and use that for other stuff?

Or does this expect to be the only partition on the stick?

It will work with a stick of any size >=8 GB and it can be the only or one of the partitions on that stick. Doesn't matter.
 
USB Installer

anyone have directions on how to turn the mavericks installer into a usb install drive? I want to do a clean install and that seems to be the best way.

it looks like apple has changed the installer files so that previous methods no longer work.

Max,

I found this here in the forums awhile back. It works like a charm. The hitch was you needed the full installer of DP4. I'm combing through the comments to see if there is a change. Also someone over in the Dev Forums said it worked for the GM.

You can make a bootable usb for DP4 with these steps (make sure the Install OS X 10.9 Developer Preview.app file is in the Applications folder and your USB is called Untitled):

1. Run the following command in Terminal

sudo /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ 10.9\ Developer\ Preview.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/Untitled --applicationpath /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ 10.9\ Developer\ Preview.app --nointeraction

2. Wait till you see all this (It took me 20 minutes):

Erasing Disk: 0%... 10%... 20%...100%...
Copying installer files to disk...
Copy complete.
Making disk bootable...
Copying boot files...
Copy complete.
Done.

This methods method works without a hitch, and one of the really nice things about it, it creates the recovery partition as well.

And I found this somewhere here:

sudo /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ Mavericks.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/Untitled --applicationpath /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ Mavericks.app --nointeraction
 
Because we are not paying a premium on hardware already? The Mac business alone would be a fortune 500 company. I suspect Apple will abandon it any time now. :D

That article is almost three years old. While the Mac business still makes good money, it pales in comparison to the iOS products. At some point Apple is going to reach the conclusion the Mac is an unnecessary distraction as returns increasingly diminish and they struggle to meet demand for the iOS devices like iPhone and iPad.

Indeed, you only have to look at the lack of updates to Mac hardware in the last 24 months to realise the lack of importance Apple attributes to the Mac side of the business.
 
Thank Ty

NO!

It is totally different in mavericks.

I won't bore you with the tortuous details of the change starting with DP1 (involving manipulating invisible files and other such shenanigans) . But one consequence of that was that apple then made a new createinstallmedia executable file made for precisely this purpose in DP4 without such shenanigans.

The method for the GM is very similar to DP4, but with slightly different file names:

After formatting an 8GB USB as Mac OS Extended (Journaled) and naming it Untitled, run this in terminal:

sudo /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ Mavericks.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/Untitled --applicationpath /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ Mavericks.app --nointeraction

Be patient. It takes quite a while to complete.

But once it does, you can boot up from it by holding the option key down whist booting.

Ty,

Thanks for this. I passed it along to a few others and it works. One person in the Dev Forums claimed your original for DP4 worked for him with the GM. I added the addendum with what you have here regarding file names for the GM.

I'm still downloading the GM, but am totally confident your method will work without a hitch. Thanks again!

Joseph
 
That article is almost three years old. While the Mac business still makes good money, it pales in comparison to the iOS products.
But not in comparison to lets say, iWatch, Apple TV, iOS in the Car and what else Apple is putting efforts in. The Mac business has been growing in those three years and would now be an even bigger fortune 500 company.
At some point Apple is going to reach the conclusion the Mac is an unnecessary distraction as returns increasingly diminish and they struggle to meet demand for the iOS devices like iPhone and iPad.
Macs are an necessary development platform for writing iOS apps. Even if you would make no more money in selling them, you would have to keep making them for this purpose alone. You can't kill them as you can kill iPods, who sell way less than Macs and Apple keeps making them.
Indeed, you only have to look at the lack of updates to Mac hardware in the last 24 months to realise the lack of importance Apple attributes to the Mac side of the business.
You mistake number of updates with relevance of updates. Not only we have new form factors for iMac and Mac Pro, also retina screens in the MacBook Pro and PCIe-SSDs in the MacBook Air. Battery life is not only improved by Haswell CPUs but also through Timer Coalescing, App Nap and Memory Compression. We have now the best Macs ever and Apple is making 45% of all profits in the PC industry.

Stop complaining! Everything is fine with the Mac.
 
"clean install" like I have to reformat?

No, you don't have to do a clean install. You go to the dev member center and get a new download code. Then DL the GM and install it on top of the last dev version. It will be the same as the production release, so once it's released publicly you will get no updates offered to your machine until the first 10.9.x release. Developers who install the GM will not have to pay for the public release, no matter the final price.
 
Stop complaining! Everything is fine with the Mac.

I'm not complaining. I was originally defending Apple and insisting they should charge Mac customers for the OS upgrade. I want them to make as much money as possible.

I also don't care if Apple doesn't upgrade the hardware more than once every 5 years since that increases margins (component prices go down but the prices to customers rarely do). And as a shareholder, that greatly pleases me. ;)
 
So why are people here reformatting there drive before installing ?
Will it run better as a clean I stall over updating on top of of your old OS

Updating is fine. Developers and purists usually like to clean install a new OS, but it's not necessary. It's a lot of work to reinstall all your applications (though Mac App Store helps!), media and files.

Very rarely you might run into the occasional conflict or weirdness with settings when upgrading an OS, but they're usually not serious or anything that can't be fixed by deleting preferences.

I haven't clean installed for two or three versions so I'm going to do it this time...
 
That article is almost three years old. While the Mac business still makes good money, it pales in comparison to the iOS products. At some point Apple is going to reach the conclusion the Mac is an unnecessary distraction as returns increasingly diminish and they struggle to meet demand for the iOS devices like iPhone and iPad.

Indeed, you only have to look at the lack of updates to Mac hardware in the last 24 months to realise the lack of importance Apple attributes to the Mac side of the business.

I'd have thought their Mac business was still important enough as it allows developers to build their iOS apps which in turn make their mobile devices more attractive. Without OSX there are no iOS apps.

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Way to go, Apple... Next time remember to change the wallpaper in the mouse/trackpad settings to your current OS default wallpaper...
 
Updating is fine. Developers and purists usually like to clean install a new OS, but it's not necessary. It's a lot of work to reinstall all your applications (though Mac App Store helps!), media and files.

Very rarely you might run into the occasional conflict or weirdness with settings when upgrading an OS, but they're usually not serious or anything that can't be fixed by deleting preferences.

I haven't clean installed for two or three versions so I'm going to do it this time...

I guess most have been running a dev preview and want to ensure there's no hangover from that, which is possible with an upgrade.
 
I'd have thought their Mac business was still important enough as it allows developers to build their iOS apps which in turn make their mobile devices more attractive. Without OSX there are no iOS apps.

Yep that's the main glue for the time being. But who knows how long those development tools will be tied to OS X.
 
Sweet! Can't wait to get it in a couple of weeks! I'm mostly looking forward to the full screen on multiple monitors and iBooks so I can better access my textbooks.
 
10.9 GM receiving Software Updates?

If I install 10.9 GM, will I be able to receive the regular upcoming updates (10.9.1, etc.) via Software Update, or I'll have to reinstall/update to final/commercial version of 10.9?
 
If I install 10.9 GM, will I be able to receive the regular upcoming updates (10.9.1, etc.) via Software Update, or I'll have to reinstall/update to final/commercial version of 10.9?


It's not called golden master for nothing.

Yes. All public updates will update the GM. They are all free downloads.
 
Ok boys and girls...this question comes from someone who has not been part of the Mav development program....in your best "non-developer" speak, what to you think? What will the average (or above average) user see and like the most?
 
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