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If I buy this when it releases, how to I reinstall Mountain Lion when I resell my computer in a couple of years for a new model? Is there a way to factory reset?
 
I'm not complaining. I was originally defending Apple and insisting they should charge Mac customers for the OS upgrade. I want them to make as much money as possible.
If you want the platform to flourish than make OSX updates free, so that adoption rate remains high. Apple does not need to make money on selling updates and wouldn't invest more in OSX, if they made more money. The pool of talented people to solve these kind of problems is limited and more money wouldn't help to hire more of them.

But iOS and OSX sharing the same basis does help to improve OSX thanks to iOS development. OSX is no longer going in its own completely independent direction, still all the battery saving techniques developed for iDevices are also good for MacBooks. It brings new ideas in like natural scrolling, invisible scrollbars etc.
I also don't care if Apple doesn't upgrade the hardware more than once every 5 years since that increases margins (component prices go down but the prices to customers rarely do). And as a shareholder, that greatly pleases me. ;)
Once a year is a good cycle for customers and shareholders alike. But more important its a good timeframe for developers themselves. Products need to be generations of each other not variants. Every new version needs to encompass everything that was good about its predecessor and improve upon it. This is impossible if you rush out new things every few months. Progress needs some time.
 
The lack of updates from Intel are mainly responsible for that. Apple updates its mac line whenever they can get new generation of CPU's. And the trend is gonna break. Intel will be delivering less and less updates to desktop/mobile CPU lines and will focus more on ultra mobile market like everyone else, so Apple will have fewer and fewer updates.

Apple does seem to be taking their time with the latest updates, though. Only the Airs were released on time, iMacs took forever and we are still waiting on rMBPs and Mac minis. There was a time when Apple would update as soon as new chips were released. Sometimes they'd even get them early from Intel.
 
Nope. There are so many enhancements and improvements in Mavericks that any true Apple fan should be willing to pay an upgrade fee to support the Mac platform. If we don't support the Mac with our money, Apple could abandon it sooner than we want - keep that in mind when making demands for free stuff.


more like bug fixes and a few enhancements from what I can see.....
 
The first is for the GM installer (and any subsequent one whose installer has the same name)

The second is only for DP4.

Assuming apple continue to use the createinstallmedia executable file in this way, but from time to time change the installer file name (and I am thinking even beyond mavericks here), you can easily modify this code accordingly.

Once again, thank you very much tywebb13! :cool:
 
...Perhaps more importantly for Apple it helps remove one of the few remaining pain points in the OS X / Windows comparisons, namely that Windows gets service packs for free while you have to pay for the point releases on OS X. And before anyone says it, yes I know that's not fair to Apple but it's a view an awful lot of users have...

OK, I really don't get that statement. That's completely false. Apple charges for major upgrades to their operating system. Comparing a change from Leopard to Snow Leopard to Lion to Mountain Lion to Mavericks and Windows service packs is ludicrous. The real comparison is between those major releases by Apple and the changes between XP/Vista/Win7/Win8. For those upgrades MS charges about 5-8 times what Apple does per upgrade, and charges a license for EVERY machine you upgrade, while Apple let's you upgrade every machine you own for one price.

The appropriate comparison to Service Pack upgrades from Windows is 10.x.x upgrades. For the most part, Service Pack upgrades from Windows are not much more than a way to consolidate all of the frequent security hole fixes into one install.

Any user who has the view that Windows service pack upgrades are synonymous with major OS X releases is too stupid to use a Mac, anyway.
 
Holding out for the Mac mini.

(I'm a long time reader, yet have only posted a handful of times.)

I just want to say I've been using my Late-2008 MacBook Pro (2.53Ghz) for FIVE years now! It was a great investment, but it's time for something new. Unfortunately, I'm on a budget at the moment, and I am really excited to see an updated Mac mini. I won't buy until it's updated since it's so late into it's update cycle! I keep my MacBook Pro in the same place on my desk all the time anyway, might as well get a mini and use it for a year or two until I have the money to purchase another MBP or iMac.

I understand all the love for updated MacBook Pros and Mac Pro, but I'm here expressing my excitement for the updated Mac mini. I'm sure it will blow my five year old MBP out of the water!

Anyway, that's all!
 
So how will Mavericks run on a late 2009 iMac with an i7?

I am still running SL and am just curious.
 
(I'm a long time reader, yet have only posted a handful of times.)

I just want to say I've been using my Late-2008 MacBook Pro (2.53Ghz) for FIVE years now! It was a great investment, but it's time for something new. Unfortunately, I'm on a budget at the moment, and I am really excited to see an updated Mac mini. I won't buy until it's updated since it's so late into it's update cycle! I keep my MacBook Pro in the same place on my desk all the time anyway, might as well get a mini and use it for a year or two until I have the money to purchase another MBP or iMac.

I understand all the love for updated MacBook Pros and Mac Pro, but I'm here expressing my excitement for the updated Mac mini. I'm sure it will blow my five year old MBP out of the water!

Anyway, that's all!

While I completely understand your situation, you may want to consider this: Unless you already have a good monitor you may be able to get a good deal on a refurb 21" iMac for not much more than a well configured Mac Mini, and sell your MBP to make up the difference.
 
Apparently I'm blind: where exactly is the iPhoto update? I'm a registered dev.
 
If I buy this when it releases, how to I reinstall Mountain Lion when I resell my computer in a couple of years for a new model? Is there a way to factory reset?

Why would you want to put the computer back to Mountain Lion? You can delete all of your data and reset the computer back to its initial settings with Mavericks, and sell it then -- it would be of a higher resale value that way.
 
Apparently I'm blind: where exactly is the iPhoto update? I'm a registered dev.

Should be in the updates section of the app store.

Curiously, I can't find the GM itself. My developer membership lapsed during the preview process, but I was still able to download new DP updates and the iPhoto update....
 
Why would you want to put the computer back to Mountain Lion? You can delete all of your data and reset the computer back to its initial settings with Mavericks, and sell it then -- it would be of a higher resale value that way.

Wouldn't the new buyer need to have purchased Mavericks though?
 
Apple does seem to be taking their time with the latest updates, though. Only the Airs were released on time, iMacs took forever and we are still waiting on rMBPs and Mac minis. There was a time when Apple would update as soon as new chips were released. Sometimes they'd even get them early from Intel.

Not quite true. The Haswell processors that went into the MacBook Air are "semi-custom" (e.g. as far as I know only Apple uses them; most other Ultrabook manufactures use the HD 4400 and not the HD 5000 part that Apple uses), so Apple probably made some kind of deal to get them on time.
All Haswell parts with Iris Pro graphic (which are used in the low-end iMac and probably Mac Mini refresh and perhaps 13" and/or 15" rMBP) had a delayed release (they were all Q3 and one even Q4). That's why you also don't see many other laptops and desktops using the Iris Pro graphic chips.
The Mac Pro will use Xeons based on Ivybridge-E were released in September and I'm sure Apple purchased a bulk order of them.

So in essence: No, Apple does not take time to update their product line. They are waiting for the chips to be available in higher quantities (as I have been saying since the begging of the year when all the moaning about the "failing" updates started)
 
I'll probably ask some of the guys at the Apple Store to see what they think before I upgrade. Cause last time I did a clean install was last year with Lion and I had to redo my entire iPhoto gallery and albums by transferring the photos that were saved on Photo Stream. Suffice to say I got them all back....but it wasn't fun.

I just need a simpler and faster way to do it.

You're running a DP/GM on your only/main system to the point you'll lose critical info?
 
I can't find the GM itself. My developer membership lapsed during the preview process, but I was still able to download new DP updates and the iPhoto update....

Some updates don't need to know if you are a developer, such as the ones you encountered.

But the GM requires you to redeem a code which definitely requires you to be a developer (or appleseed member). (Same for full installers of DP1 and DP4).

DP2-8 updates however can be done without the MAS. Some developers had trouble updating through the MAS and got direct links through apple developer forums and just updated through google chrome instead. But you can't do that for the full installers for DP1, DP4 or the GM.

So if you want the GM, you can renew your membership, and then you can get a code for the GM, which you can then redeem in the MAS and then download and install.
 
I'll probably ask some of the guys at the Apple Store to see what they think before I upgrade. Cause last time I did a clean install was last year with Lion and I had to redo my entire iPhoto gallery and albums by transferring the photos that were saved on Photo Stream. Suffice to say I got them all back....but it wasn't fun.

I just need a simpler and faster way to do it.

You know that the photo stream pics are of far lower quality and size?
 
Apple does seem to be taking their time with the latest updates, though. Only the Airs were released on time, iMacs took forever and we are still waiting on rMBPs and Mac minis. There was a time when Apple would update as soon as new chips were released. Sometimes they'd even get them early from Intel.

Still, there never has been an intel CPU update which did not follow by an Apple mac line update. When and if Apple begins to skip generations of CPU's on their macs, then we can say that they are starting to update them less frequently. I don't really care that Apple takes couple of months after intel as long as they keep putting new intel CPU's in.
 
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