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while it will run on 2007 era machines, I have to wonder how usaebleit will be.
My impression of the last few OS revs have been that Apple is following a "tick-tock" strategy. Leopard was kind of a pig, Snow Leopard scaled back it's egregious excesses. Likewise for Lion/Mountain Lion.
I am guessing there will be a follow up to Mavericks.
"Mavericks:Locals Only".

Or this OS naming convention could be just a one off to bridge us to OS XI.
Which doubtless will draw names from AKC.

1. OS XI will never happen. OS X is a brand, and its here to stay.

2. I've been really impressed with the stability of Mavericks so far. I haven't used or tested it extensively yet, but I like it far more than the previous "tick" which was Lion. Fortunately, it seems to match the stability of SL and ML, especially for being an early beta.
 
I don't get it.

Edit: So it's Mobile Documents folder like before which is still neither elegant nor easy to use.

No right now mobile documents places each file in different folders for each app, so sorting through it is rather awkward. If 9to5's reporting is correct, the new folder will let you put all the files in a single folder, not sorted by each app, but each app will automatically recognize which files are intended for it. In other words, it looks like if this is correct, they have loosened up the sandboxing of files a tiny bit, which is a welcome addition. If this works as described, you can place all your project files in the same area, whether they are .pages, .numbers, .keynotes, .pdfs, etc.
 
1. OS XI will never happen. OS X is a brand, and its here to stay.

2. I've been really impressed with the stability of Mavericks so far. I haven't used or tested it extensively yet, but I like it far more than the previous "tick" which was Lion. Fortunately, it seems to match the stability of SL and ML, especially for being an early beta.

Well it was reported that they went through over twice as many builds as ML. So I guess that work paid off.
 
Why is the OS name plural anyway? OS X releases have always had singular names... Tiger, Panther, Lion, Leopard, etc... now... Mavericks?

OS X Maverick would have sounded nicer.

Also, moving from felines to livestock? Kind of a downgrade I think...

I assume you went to the dicitionary for a definition on Maverick? Here is the second entry...

an independent individual who does not go along with a group or party

That seems fitting in terms of the brand Apple is trying to establish, I think.
 
Offline Dictation:
"The setting includes a 785MB download to enable the feature"

Hmm... would that be the same size (or perhaps more?) if iOS contained offline Siri? I mean for the commands that make sense to be offline, anyway. Maybe that's another reason why they still don't have it offline, to save some space? That's relatively a lot of lost space on a mobile device.

Anyway, definitely looking forward to Mavericks! And iOS 7! (despite some of the icons lol)

Would be nice to have the option to install it though. I have customers with well over a GB of useless data / applications on their iOS devices that they don't even access / need. Having the option of Offline mode at the price of 1GB or less wouldn't bother me with my 32 and 64gb devices.
 
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There's a truck next to Dropbox. Has Apple finally given us a new version of Font/DA Mover?

:D

Font/DA Mover ... well there's a "blast from the past" ...
 
+1 can't find this. Mobile Documents is still hidden in your Library, but does not behave this way.

Perhaps they were referring to All My Files? The behavior hasn't changed since Mountain Lion. Copying a file to All My Files defaults to the local Documents folder.

But then it wouldn't be an iCloud folder, unless they changed the default of All My Files to put things into iCloud.

For people running Mavericks, what happens if you throw a file into the Mobile Documents folder, not in the respective app folder within it, but in the main branch of that folder, will the respective apps recognize it's there?

So for example, place a .pages file in Mobile Documents, not in /Mobile Documents/com~apple~Pages/Documents, then open Pages, does it see that file?
 
Support for OpenGL 4.1 is good, but they really need Compute Shader support which is part of OpenGL 4.3 or can be added as an extension to OpenGL 4.1. Compute shader is more efficient at some graphical tasks than pixel shaders and many DX11 game engines are going to rely on compute shaders as an integral part of the engine, especially once next-gen consoles come out. Having compute shader support would ease bringing DX11 games to Mac.

Hey man be happy Apple now supports OpenGL 4.1. The only thing we had before was OpenGL 3.1
 
I installed it from my dev account. However as soon as I login it starts running apps and such and just logs me out… I can only restart into the guest account. It's like something in setup just logs me right out. Is anyone else having this issue?
 
Hey man be happy Apple now supports OpenGL 4.1. The only thing we had before was OpenGL 3.1

Do you know what the 4.2 status was in ML? From your screenshot in the other thread opengl is now 16% of the way to 4.2, so if in ML it was 0%, that would indicate they are working on bringing 4.2 support. If ML also was 16% there, it's unclear if they will be going beyond 4.1 for now.

Edit: Just checked and ML has 0% on OpenGL 4.2, so it does look like they started working on the next versions.
 
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At least my mid-2009 MacBook should be able to run it. With a 2.13 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor and 6 GB of DDR2 SDRAM, what could possibly go wrong? :D

Also hoping Apple updates iLife for OS X again soon, it's been almost three years now!
 
Personally, I think they should dump support of older machines without hesitation

With new apps and updates to old apps usually requiring the latest OS due to new APIs, you quickly lose the ability to use the latest apps; therefore losing interoperability with others who are able to upgrade.

Newer machines shouldn't have to be crippled or restricted in some way by the legacy machines demanding equal support out there of OS and applications.

They aren't. Especially as all Macs since the last round of cutoffs have the same EFI and mostly same CPUs, the only difference is hardware such as the sound/Firewire/USB chips. The kexts that control these chips are only loaded when the hardware for them exists.

In the situation where I owned a new iMac and the OS decided to support that older machine at the expense of *not* taking advantage of my new technology in some way, I'd be pissed and think I'd overpaid for something.

So you mean when Apple releases a new iMac touting say a HD iSight camera, they don't actually support it in the OS because they are supporting the old non-HD one? Complete rubbish.

Technology advances happen at a much slower pace than previously, they shouldn't be held back further because a bunch of old machines demand equal love.

Even more reason to support the older hardware. The huge leaps of CPU speed we saw in the early to mid 2000s warranted more aggressive hardware cutoffs as the software was using the extra speed in the CPUs. In more recent years, CPU speed hasn't made anywhere near as much progress as it did before, so the software can't bloat as much without causing slowdown on the latest machines.

Machines today last much longer than they ever used to - Microsoft and Windows machines pretty much perished at the 2 year mark in the past, so my 6 year old iMac running the latest OS (and running it fairly well!) is pretty amazing I have to admit (and will be 7 years old when next year's OS comes along), and something I never expected when I purchased it new.

Machines lasting longer should mean the support for them should last longer, too. You said it yourself, the OS runs fine on your 6 year old iMac so why drop support? I have Mountain Lion running on my 2006 Mac Pro, it runs just as well as Lion did, but it's not supported.

Also Mavericks looks like it has some great under-the-hood changes, and some nice new power user features. Really don't like the name, however... Something like Bird species would have been much more appropriate IMO, Mavericks sounds like something from Redmond.
 
Tagging question for those with Mavericks ...

So according to the keynote you can create any number of new tags for your files.

My questions are:

1. is there a hard-coded limit (like 10 tags)? or not?
2. when selecting the color for each tag ... can you only chose from 8 that apple display? or can you select a custom color from a color selector?

Thanx
 
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