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If you need to cut and paste a file or folder, cut is disabled for your protection. But if you must, just copy, then press cmd+delete to throw it in the trash. Then go paste to your hearts delight.

It's not missing a feature. It's built in pi@#ed off protection.

Or if it's not to deep and you can drag it before dragging press Command and then drag and drop, it will move the file to that location. it's the same as Cut and Paste.
 
o_O What do you mean "How would he pay 129 if he had leopard already"?

When you go to the store, you tell them you have Tiger and you buy the FULL not-upgrade version, for 129. Even if you have Leopard they'd let you buy the full version. It's not like you'd walk in the store and they'd say "Nope, sorry, you have leopard so we're going to make you buy the upgrade version."

Given the self declared Phystar and PearC clones I wouldn't bet on it!

A valid response may be that only upgrades to existing Leopard installation are made available at retail.
 
Okay. Append would be extremely helpful.

In Intel's case, the lack of expected feature resulted in valuable data loss. Sure you can argue it would have been "more intelligent" to copy and then delete, but come on, if it worked the logical way it wouldn't have been a problem.

Its a missing feature. Also, finder DOES suck.
 
wtf is .mov then? MP3 is a proprietary format btw, its just so common that everyone forgets.

1) .mov is a wrapper format that is primarily based on (I believe) MPEG. It is the foundation for MPEG and considered and industry standard - most people use MPEG because of its role in standards group. WMA is not part of this.
2) Unlike WMA, MP3 is owned by a group of people and is an ISO standard derived by several organizations. Technically MP3 is a proprietary format by its nature of it being patented, but it is much less so than WMA and WMV which are solely owned and controlled by Microsoft. Calling MP3 a "standard" is pretty accurate due to its ISO status and the fact that it is a defacto industry standard unlike WMA or WMV.

Remember: WMA and WMV are whole proprietary and controlled by Microsoft - Mac support has always been limited due to the fact that it is a (surprise) windows framework. It is not standards based in any real sense and WMA has been heavily criticized as an inferior format.

But that doesn't really matter here. Quicktime X is more about supporting more modern codecs (based on licensing agreements) and advancing current codecs. Any codec support that Apple adds is going to be based on licensing arrangements. Right now, the only player that has MS endorsement (on a limited level) is Flip4Mac
 
Okay. Append would be extremely helpful.

In Intel's case, the lack of expected feature resulted in valuable data loss. Sure you can argue it would have been "more intelligent" to copy and then delete, but come on, if it worked the logical way it wouldn't have been a problem.
First of all, it would have been more intelligent to get informed on how OS X worked. (And btw you don't have to copy and delete, it's enough to CMD + drag)
Second, the logical way is to replace, not append. It's the same as with files. Files with same names get overwritten. Only because Windows does it that way, it does not make it logical.
Its a missing feature. Also, finder DOES suck.
A missing feature which you can easily live without. And no, Finder does not suck.
 
Correction - cut paste with append. Correction again.... it wasn't spilt milk, it was a small bag of diamonds, i'm down almost $30 000 because of it.

And from the research that i did before switching from windows to Mac was that mac's are more intuitive, even apple themselves claim the same. To delete a half coppied folder is not very intuitive. I love macs but we all need them to listen to what their customers need. and you know i'm not asking for much

Rule Number 1: Always have at least one backup
Rule Number 2: Reserve "cut" and "paste" to text editing
Rule Number 3: Know your system, don't take risks.

My hard drive died 2 days before I had to hand in my thesis. No big deal, I had multiple backups here and there, system was up and running in 1 hour from a USB drive where I restored the backup onto.
 
Are you five ?

Is your sarcasm meter broken? Point is, who cares? They're just operating systems, yet some feel the need to defend their OS with their lives.

One thing I'm wondering now after this latest seed is whether we'll se more of the menus replaced with black from Leopard's white in oncoming builds. Like, for example, black menus in the menu bar. Not sure how I would feel about that.

I also don't know how I feel about the grayish blue accent color that is being used in "marble." ...It's just kind of like... why that color, and why so bland?
 
o_O What do you mean "How would he pay 129 if he had leopard already"?

When you go to the store, you tell them you have Tiger and you buy the FULL not-upgrade version, for 129. Even if you have Leopard they'd let you buy the full version. It's not like you'd walk in the store and they'd say "Nope, sorry, you have leopard so we're going to make you buy the upgrade version."

If you have Tiger, didn't Apple say you would have to upgrade to Leopard before going to Snow Leopard?
 
If you have Tiger, didn't Apple say you would have to upgrade to Leopard before going to Snow Leopard?

From Apple's website:
Apple Canada said:
Upgrading from Mac OS X v10.4 Tiger.

If your Intel-based Mac is running Mac OS X v10.4 Tiger, purchase the Mac Box Set (when available), which is a single, affordable package that includes Mac OS X v10.6 Snow Leopard; iLife ’09, with the latest versions of iPhoto, iMovie, GarageBand, iWeb, and iDVD; and iWork ’09, Apple’s productivity suite for home and office including Pages, Numbers, and Keynote.

And when I called them, 3 different reps told me you can buy Snow Leopard (full version for Tiger) for $120 separate from the Box Set.
 
Here's a scenario for you.... you cut large folder from one drive to a network or usb drive... and it is about half way... then network fails, or finder times out.... what now?? half your files are one location, half at another. You go to paste that folder again... then half of your files - the ones that went through before the interruption - get deleted then the other half come through, and the end result is half the files you started with and no way to recover the lost files bcs they are on network drive. If you lost months of your work files in one little cut paste episode... u'd feel the same too.

Then I have two suggestions, use Drag and Drop or "Copy and Paste" instead of "Cut and Paste". If the initial paste or moving of the file doesn't work because of network failure, then when you paste it or move it again, whatever is there will be written over with the newer file. If this work is that important than having a redundant back-up should happen anyways. no offense.
 
One thing I really want to see is menu's with a PURPLE gradient to highlight a selection... not blue. It's starting to look out of place, especially with the whole "aura" wallpapers!

And, with the dock's contextual menus, could they also be the same for the rest of the menus on the Mac? That would be really nice and to keep with the "marble" idea couldn't the UI elements used in iTunes and iLife be used throughout the rest of the operating system? Leopard looks messy but they could easily tidy this up in SL by using the same design elements and banishing Aqua :)
 
1) .mov is a wrapper format that is primarily based on (I believe) MPEG. It is the foundation for MPEG and considered and industry standard - most people use MPEG because of its role in standards group. WMA is not part of this.
2) Unlike WMA, MP3 is owned by a group of people and is an ISO standard derived by several organizations. Technically MP3 is a proprietary format by its nature of it being patented, but it is much less so than WMA and WMV which are solely owned and controlled by Microsoft. Calling MP3 a "standard" is pretty accurate due to its ISO status and the fact that it is a defacto industry standard unlike WMA or WMV.

Remember: WMA and WMV are whole proprietary and controlled by Microsoft - Mac support has always been limited due to the fact that it is a (surprise) windows framework. It is not standards based in any real sense and WMA has been heavily criticized as an inferior format.

But that doesn't really matter here. Quicktime X is more about supporting more modern codecs (based on licensing agreements) and advancing current codecs. Any codec support that Apple adds is going to be based on licensing arrangements. Right now, the only player that has MS endorsement (on a limited level) is Flip4Mac

For years Apple used to piss me off with their quicktime bollocks that I had to install to watch .mov. That seems to have changed now but it does show that Apple are no saints when it comes to proprietary codecs. And Windows still doesn't play quicktime out of the box either, so perhaps its only apt that flip4mac is required on a Mac.
 
One thing I really want to see is menu's with a PURPLE gradient to highlight a selection... not blue. It's starting to look out of place, especially with the whole "aura" wallpapers!

And, with the dock's contextual menus, could they also be the same for the rest of the menus on the Mac? That would be really nice and to keep with the "marble" idea couldn't the UI elements used in iTunes and iLife be used throughout the rest of the operating system? Leopard looks messy but they could easily tidy this up in SL by using the same design elements and banishing Aqua :)

You can change the scrollbars yourself if you want. I don't know how to do it, but the interweb does.

I think we'll see Aqua in some form until OS XI. Or beyond. Seriously, it could happen. Apple stuck with the same essential interface for eons.
 
Then I have two suggestions, use Drag and Drop or "Copy and Paste" instead of "Cut and Paste". If the initial paste or moving of the file doesn't work because of network failure, then when you paste it or move it again, whatever is there will be written over with the newer file. If this work is that important than having a redundant back-up should happen anyways. no offense.

You guys are all missing the point here.
Here is another scenario for you:
say you go to a cafe to buy a mug of coffee (not from mcdonalds, their coffee tastes like crap anyway). So you ask for a coffee and you expect it to be in a mug, it being a prestige cafe, but then the waiter comes and gives your coffee in a cup insted. You protest because the coffee is hot and you need a handle so you don't burn yourself. The waiter replies to you with a dirty look and says "just wrap the cup with a tissue or a napkin. 'it will be EXACTLY the same - maybe better' "
******** and you know it. If the cafes with mugs perfected the handle... (windows explorer) it can be done and it too should be expected from a prestige place like apple. Append to folders is only logical.
 
For years Apple used to piss me off with their quicktime bollocks that I had to install to watch .mov. That seems to have changed now but it does show that Apple are no saints when it comes to proprietary codecs. And Windows still doesn't play quicktime out of the box either, so perhaps its only apt that flip4mac is required on a Mac.

Well WMP used to exist on a Mac until Microsoft stopped updating it.
 
You guys are all missing the point here.
Here is another scenario for you:
say you go to a cafe to buy a mug of coffee (not from mcdonalds, their coffee tastes like crap anyway). So you ask for a coffee and you expect it to be in a mug, it being a prestige cafe, but then the waiter comes and gives your coffee in a cup insted. You protest because the coffee is hot and you need a handle so you don't burn yourself. The waiter replies to you with a dirty look and says "just wrap the cup with a tissue or a napkin. 'it will be EXACTLY the same - maybe better' "
******** and you know it. If the cafes with mugs perfected the handle... (windows explorer) it can be done and it too should be expected from a prestige place like apple. Append to folders is only logical.

That's the worst analogy I've ever read...

This situation is more like an American trying to learn French. French is "better" and it has different grammar, but the American refuses to learn French grammar and keeps his English grammar.

Just get used to using your mac and stop complaining about it. Especially on this tread. I'm tired of getting updates of you complaining about OS X on a tread about a Snow Leopard beta.

So make your own thread to complain.

And to everyone responding to him, please! Stop feeding the troll! (And yes, I know, I shouldn't have responded to him either but I couldn't resist.)
 
You can change the scrollbars yourself if you want. I don't know how to do it, but the interweb does.

I think we'll see Aqua in some form until OS XI. Or beyond. Seriously, it could happen. Apple stuck with the same essential interface for eons.

There's very little left that is actually Aqua, especially in SL. iLife, iTunes, and iWork (for the most part) have already made the change. It's best just to get rid of it as soon as possible.
 
more excited about this any windows 7 even tho i have more pcs in my house than macs once again apple has out done themselves :)
 
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