OS X Snow Leopard 10A402 Brings Visual Tweaks and Other Enhancements

[Shake 'n' Bake]

There's very little left that is actually Aqua, especially in SL. iLife, iTunes, and iWork (for the most part) have already made the change. It's best just to get rid of it as soon as possible.

iChat has the icon selector from Tiger and iWork has a selector from Tiger.

All I want:

1. Consistent scroll bars.

2. Consistent windows.

3. The ability to change the opacity of the menus and menubar beyond opaque and translucent.

4. More customization, like in OS 9.

Add a new appearance to that and it's even better.

 

[Krafty]

Ok, after installing Adium, I tried to eject the installation disk. Finder completely froze, and I tried relaunching it from the dock. Finder quit, and wouldn't re-open. Everytime I click, this error posted below was brought up.

Tried to restart and my Mini wouldnt respond although I was able to switch between FF and Adium.

 

[pdjudd]

For years Apple used to piss me off with their quicktime bollocks that I had to install to watch .mov. That seems to have changed now but it does show that Apple are no saints when it comes to proprietary codecs. And Windows still doesn't play quicktime out of the box either, so perhaps its only apt that flip4mac is required on a Mac.

The problem with codecs is that they are almost always going to be based on some technology that is proprietary in some fashion. Lets face the facts, Microsoft is almost always going to prefer that people use their largely proprietary formats to create dependancies. Thats going to include Audio and Video. The one exception, an OEM may be able to pre-include Quicktime with the hardware, but thats going to be very doubtful. It's not unique to Apple or anybody. Apple is at least trying to move away from that approach and supporting more industry standard formats out of the box, but any proprietary software is probably going to use a proprietary format in some fashion. Its the name of the business and is never going to change.

The one exception is the FOSS formats, but they never get wide adoption out of the box by a company like Microsoft or Apple. Take FLAC, not even on Windows is there out of the box support. You either have to install a third party program or a separate plug-in. Nobody is that interested in them. Unfortunate? Yea, but thats life for you.

Well WMP used to exist on a Mac until Microsoft stopped updating it.

It did, but it was nowhere near as feature complete, nor was it very well made. It was heavily criticized for lacking tons of basic features. It was a piss-poor attempt at a media player that essentially only shares a name with its Windows counterpart. FlipFor Mac is way better...

But if you want to pick nits, they simply cancelled development, but its the same thing.

 

[Quillz]

You can change the scrollbars yourself if you want. I don't know how to do it, but the interweb does.

I think we'll see Aqua in some form until OS XI. Or beyond. Seriously, it could happen. Apple stuck with the same essential interface for eons.

Not really. The original "System" UI lasted between System 1 (1984) and Mac OS 7 (1991). The second major UI, Platinum, was even shorter, used only between Mac OS 8 (1997) and Mac OS 9 (1999).

Chances are good Aqua will last the lifetime of Mac OS X, and will be replaced with something new when Mac OS 11 is eventually released. (Which will be well into the next decade.)

 

[Shake 'n' Bake]

Not really. The original "System" UI lasted between System 1 (1984) and Mac OS 7 (1991). The second major UI, Platinum, was even shorter, used only between Mac OS 8 (1997) and Mac OS 9 (1999).

Chances are good Aqua will last the lifetime of Mac OS X, and will be replaced with something new when Mac OS 11 is eventually released. (Which will be well into the next decade.)

But it looked essentially the same, except Platinum had color.

 

[Quillz]

But it looked essentially the same, except Platinum had color.

No. Platinum actually looked quite different from the original System look. The placement of the title bar widgets, the title bar itself, the fonts, the layout of certain system icons, etc. were all different.

The colors were largely the same, but most other things were very different.

 

[intel]

I have Found a bug and wondering if the same thing is happening to anyone else. It is related to USB and Bluetooth. First, every time I plug something into Any USB port, skype and sometimes random programs shut down and a bug report window. 95% of the time it is skype.

The other bug is where I listen through stereo bluetooth headset and if I don't turn the headset off physically, Bluetooth on mac locks up and will not reconect to any device and it still thinks that the headphones are connected.
If on the other hand I plug the headphones to charge while they are connected then the Bluetooth driver itself turns off and macos says that there is no Bluetooth hardware inside the computer. I have a mac pro 8 core late 2008 with motorola s9 headset.
Evrything worked fine in leopard but not in snow leopard. And still does work fine in leopard so it's not a hardware issue.

Ps to all you haters out there, I still think finder is a sore excuse for a file browser the same way windows vista is a sore excuse for an operating system but at least they got windows explorer functioning like how a perfect file browser should function. So what if you don't have big perfect plump breasts, at least you have nipples right?. All it takes is a simple small improvement to snow leopard and I will be extatic. But until then I will be pissed off.

 

[EmperorDarius]

it can be done and it too should be expected from a prestige place like apple.Append to folders is only logical.

Cutting and pasting on Windows:

1.Open Folder 1
2.Select Files you need to cut
3.Right click >> Cut/ CTRL +X
4.Open Folder 2
5.Right click >>Paste/CTRL+V

Cutting and pasting on OS X:
1.Open Folder 1
2.Open Folder 2
3.Select the files you need to cut
4.CMD + DRAG from Folder 1 to Folder 2

It's EXACTLY the same thing. You just need to get used to it. It does not require ANY extra work at all, so your analogy is flawed.

And about Append folders...it is NOT the more logical way. It's the most "Windowish" way.

If you copy a file to a place where another file with a same name is located, you don't expect them to be merged, but the older one to be replaced. So, append folders is just an extra feature, which some people may find useful and some not.

 

[dr. shdw]

Cutting and pasting on Windows:

1.Open Folder 1
2.Select Files you need to cut
3.Right click >> Cut/ CTRL +X
4.Open Folder 2
5.Right click >>Paste/CTRL+V

Cutting and pasting on OS X:
1.Open Folder 1
2.Open Folder 2
3.Select the files you need to cut
4.CMD + DRAG from Folder 1 to Folder 2

It's EXACTLY the same thing. You just need to get used to it. It does not require ANY extra work at all, so your analogy is flawed.

And about Append folders...it is NOT the more logical way. It's the most "Windowish" way.

If you copy a file to a place where another file with a same name is located, you don't expect them to be merged, but the older one to be replaced. So, append folders is just an extra feature, which some people may find useful and some not.

It depends. If the data is on another drive, it'll copy it..

 

[EmperorDarius]

It depends. If the data is on another drive, it'll copy it..

It's not true. Actually, if you're moving data on the same drive or partition, dragging files is enough. If it's on another drive or partition, you must use CMD + drag. But I just use CMD+Drag, since it works in any case.

 

[Krafty]

Another thing, is Photoshop CS3 working for anyone? When I drag one image onto another, PS freezes.

 

[Quillz]

Another thing, is Photoshop CS3 working for anyone? When I drag one image onto another, PS freezes.

I can confirm CS4 works fine, but I haven't tried CS3. Sorry.

 

[intel]

Cutting and pasting on Windows:

1.Open Folder 1
2.Select Files you need to cut
3.Right click >> Cut/ CTRL +X
4.Open Folder 2
5.Right click >>Paste/CTRL+V

Cutting and pasting on OS X:
1.Open Folder 1
2.Open Folder 2
3.Select the files you need to cut
4.CMD + DRAG from Folder 1 to Folder 2

It's EXACTLY the same thing. You just need to get used to it. It does not require ANY extra work at all, so your analogy is flawed.

And about Append folders...it is NOT the more logical way. It's the most "Windowish" way.

If you copy a file to a place where another file with a same name is located, you don't expect them to be merged, but the older one to be replaced. So, append folders is just an extra feature, which some people may find useful and some not.

Why are you so blind to see??? Let me put it in simple terms for you... cut and paste works and i'm aware of that... here is where your understanding is very limited.. I'll give you some base-work first.
you are moving a file...
the file moves, the operating system checks to see if it completed, then deletes the original file... simple logic everybody understands this, you are stupid if you don't.

Now...

If you were to repeat this same BRILLIANT logic to folder moving then everything is perfect.
BUT
Instead of checking if the operation which you wanted to perform completed successfully, ie. MOVING THE WHOLE FOLDER!!!!! REGARDLESS of communication failure, and THEN and ONLY THEN delete the original folder and it's contents!! Not each individual file as it is moved. That would be like deleting byte by byte as a file is moved to the other location (completely illogical data loss can occur).

To move from one hard-drive in your system to another hard-drive in your system is totally different to moving to a network drive. MTBF increases 1000 fold depending on network quality.
The method i mentioned above is one solution, whereas, windows adopted a more efficient method which does delete files separately as they are moved BUT at least they made it default to append as folders are moved again incase of network failure.


Apple's finder does neither and because of this... Finder = Fail!!!

Instead they decided to program a not so useful feature - coverflow for finder.

 

[intel]

Not related but check it while we wait for another rumor

Whatever happened to the appleTV, totally need a hardware upgrade, there are soo many media players out there now that play any video file out of box. i need a new apple tv. Apple get your act together, steve was gone for a little while, now everybody else is catching up. stay ahead of the pack like you are with iphone


http://www.beingmanan.com/wp/2009/05/office-2010-new-features/

 

[trondah]

Apple's finder does neither and because of this... Finder = Fail!!!

Can't you just COPY the folder instead of moving it? That will ensure the original is intact in case of communication error.

I can't really see that Finder is such a fail because of this.

 

[Amuraivel]

User Space Crash precludes Kernel Panic?

I had a severe crash, and rather than a kerne panic, or a freeze (yes. OSX has frozen), it seemed to crash the user space returning me to the user list. Like when the X11 server crashes on Linux.


Is this a new form of error/crash control on OSX?

Has anyone else experienced this?

 

[Shasterball]

- Exposé for Multiple Monitors Fixed: Exposé reportedly now functions correctly when using multiple monitors, with windows remaining on their respective monitors in Exposé rather than all being collected on the primary monitor.

I don't think I ever had this problem. I can see how it would be quite annoying though.

 

[Greenbook]

Ps to all you haters out there, I still think finder is a sore excuse for a file browser the same way windows vista is a sore excuse for an operating system but at least they got windows explorer functioning like how a perfect file browser should function. So what if you don't have big perfect plump breasts, at least you have nipples right?. All it takes is a simple small improvement to snow leopard and I will be extatic. But until then I will be pissed off.

Come on, how good is column view.

 

[Oh-es-Ten]

It does that in Leopard right now.

System Preferences has to be running for the contextual menus to appear properly (showing all the pref panes).

In Snow Leopard it does not have to be running to show this, meaning you can have this as a Dock Icon and by ctrl+clicking on it, you can go straight to the pref pane needed, before actually opening System Preferences. This is good!

 

[rerelease]

System Preferences has to be running for the contextual menus to appear properly (showing all the pref panes).

In Snow Leopard it does not have to be running to show this, meaning you can have this as a Dock Icon and by ctrl+clicking on it, you can go straight to the pref pane needed, before actually opening System Preferences. This is good!

It's weird to me though that System Prefs has to quit and reopen when I want to adjust third-party panes. Even if I select them right away from the dock menu.

 

[mrchinchilla]

...at least they got windows explorer functioning like how a perfect file browser should function.

This made me laugh hard.

 

[hawk eyes]

System Preferences has to be running for the contextual menus to appear properly (showing all the pref panes).

In Snow Leopard it does not have to be running to show this, meaning you can have this as a Dock Icon and by ctrl+clicking on it, you can go straight to the pref pane needed, before actually opening System Preferences. This is good!

Oh that is cool. I have system prefs startup when I login so that's why I thought it already did it. Thanks for clarifying.

 

[dhowden]

Exposé and Spaces Integration

I'm really liking the new integration between Exposé and Spaces. If you activate Exposé in Spaces you can drag windows between Spaces, and the other windows in the grid resize nicely using Core Animation...

Loving this new build!

 

[Sky Blue]

I'm really liking the new integration between Exposé and Spaces. If you activate Exposé in Spaces you can drag windows between Spaces, and the other windows in the grid resize nicely using Core Animation...

Loving this new build!

You could do that in 10.5

 

[dhowden]

You could do that in 10.5

Yes, but the post-move rearrangment isn't as pretty in 10.5...