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I’ve never not updated to a new OS but losing the dock is a deal breaker and there isnt really anything new worth updating for in OS10
 
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I’ve never not updated to a new OS but losing the dock is a deal breaker and there isnt really anything new worth updating for in OS10
Genuine question— were you using different watch apps so often on the watch that the dock was really that useful?

I legitimately can’t think of anything to do on my watch besides reply to text messages, check the weather, and skip the song I’m listening to. And I don’t do that so often in the same session that I even need to access the app switcher.

I didn’t realize how much people used the dock
 
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Personally I’m a fan of the reworked OS overall. One thing I’d like to see is Control Centre developed now it’s easily accessible with the side button. It really should have playback controls in there for example.

Also I think I would have gone with full screen widgets that could show more information, similar to the old glances, which you could flick through with the crown. Even if the widgets were double height you’d be able to fit in so much more information and would better differentiate them from complications.

Widgets like Reminders, Calendar, Weather and News would be much more useful if they had more space to display information.
 
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A setting almost no one would have used, so it would have been a waste of development resources.

Again, if you want endless settings and options you want Android or Windows.
It sounds like a lot of people would have used it to set it back to how it was and a lot wouldn’t. User settings don’t generally take a lot of time to code, especially when both options are already in the code and it’s just a matter of reading a flag that says which way it should go. The ability to swipe back and forth was already there. The press and hold was already there because that’s how you edit the complications, colors, etc. There’s already a well established Settings section on the watch.

I don’t usually switch between faces, so I don’t care. But if that’s part of how you use the watch on a daily basis, I can see how it sucks for some people.
 
I too don't like those changes. It's now one step more to change faces - something they had already made easier previously (iirc you had to force press the display to do that in early versions of watchOS)

Same with having to press a button to access control center now. Or that on the solar dial you have to tap the display first, before you can change time by turning the crown.

Maybe I just have to get used to it all, but so far WatchOS has made using the watch slower for the way I use it.

(Not to mention a bug when the notification dot stays on but I can't swipe down for notifications until I reboot the watch)
 
Genuine question— were you using different watch apps so often on the watch that the dock was really that useful?

I legitimately can’t think of anything to do on my watch besides reply to text messages, check the weather, and skip the song I’m listening to. And I don’t do that so often in the same session that I even need to access the app switcher.

I didn’t realize how much people used the dock
I only use a few apps and really liked the quick access from the dock. I don’t have like 10 apps there but it’s nice to have the 5 or so I use often easily accessible
 
Failure? works great for me. I'm not one to bawl over a changed UI item though. And once you know how to change watch faces, it is pretty easy. So if this is your reason for labeling it as a failure, id say that was a weak argument. Let us see what the adoption rate is. a failure would be like windows 11, that nobody wants
 
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I only use a few apps and really liked the quick access from the dock. I don’t have like 10 apps there but it’s nice to have the 5 or so I use often easily accessible
Forgive me but it seems like putting the app view in the revamped grid mode and having your most commonly used apps at the top of the grid would be just as accessible. One press of the Digital Crown will get you there.
 
Forgive me but it seems like putting the app view in the revamped grid mode and having your most commonly used apps at the top of the grid would be just as accessible. One press of the Digital Crown will get you there.
Is this "grid mode" of which you speak actually the honeycomb layout from the earlier versions of watchOS? There's ABSOLUTELY NOTHING new or useful there.
 
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Is this "grid mode" of which you speak actually the honeycomb layout from the earlier versions of watchOS? There's ABSOLUTELY NOTHING new of useful there.
I’m just talking about putting the app view in “grid view” since it’s scrollable now — how is the dock better than this?

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Failure? works great for me. I'm not one to bawl over a changed UI item though. And once you know how to change watch faces, it is pretty easy. So if this is your reason for labeling it as a failure, id say that was a weak argument. Let us see what the adoption rate is. a failure would be like windows 11, that nobody wants
I definitely preferred swiping between watch faces as I use many, but it's not a deal breaker.

Also, I really like Windows 11. I just massively prefer macOS.
 
I’m just talking about putting the app view in “grid view” since it’s scrollable now — how is the dock better than this?

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Well for me, grid view is a total mess in finding things. I turned it off on my older Apple watch, and I will with my AWU2. I've tried to live with it, but not any more. It's so full of icons that really don't mean anything at all.
 
Well for me, grid view is a total mess in finding things. I turned it off on my older Apple watch, and I will with my AWU2. I've tried to live with it, but not any more. It's so full of icons that really don't mean anything at all.
just that it gives you the ability to re-arrange icons. I find it useful now that I moved those apps I do use towards the top.
 
Is this "grid mode" of which you speak actually the honeycomb layout from the earlier versions of watchOS? There's ABSOLUTELY NOTHING new or useful there.
It’s very different. It always starts at the top of the grid which means putting your most used apps there gives you very fast access. Also it simply scrolls up and down now. Much easier to navigate.
 
I find zero redeeming value in the honeycomb hodgepodge of apps. I see it much the same as rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic...
#67 It’s very different. It always starts at the top of the grid which means putting your most used apps there gives you very fast access. Also it simply scrolls up and down now. Much easier to navigate.
 
just that it gives you the ability to re-arrange icons. I find it useful now that I moved those apps I do use towards the top.
I tried that, but I really do better with words and alphabetical order. fwiw, I use details mode Windows explorer and list mode in finder too. :)
 
I cannot swipe between face?
I cannot fit all my apps on one face so i have to swipe between faces frequently.
Now i have to hold and change faces?
What a hassle!!!
Not that bad😊 it is a “little” inconvenience but not a big deal. We get used to it. Keep calm and be happy 😊
 
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Yeah. Me too. Not sure what all the fuss is about. The "long press" takes about 1 second and then I can swipe to whichever face I'd like.

Maybe not even a whole second. I'm more concerned about the new cursor bubble. I hate it. It takes a whole second to get the bubble.
 
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