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I do agree with you on some, except I hate the fact they are making the computers more simple and like phones. Yes great it is easy to use, but you lose features actually. Anyone know what I mean?

Are the features actually being lost or just alternative and simpler ways to do things are becoming more prevalent?
 
I thought Mission Control was like Expose in SL with the spaces/full screen apps bit at the top. I'm guessing it's completely different then?

Its different, yes. Grouped items within applications and when viewing windows within an application, it displays them in a grid, rather than spatial organization.

Windows also overlap. Its really stupid.
 
I thought Mission Control was like Expose in SL with the spaces/full screen apps bit at the top. I'm guessing it's completely different then?

It works differently. It is similar but it changes the way Spaces are used. That might be for most people an advantage, but for me having used Spaces for a long time, I prefer the old way of doing things. I also don't like that there is no indication on the system bar which space I currently use. I filed a bug report and the answer was "works as designed"...
What I also miss is the ability to have an expose of all apps among spaces. With mission control I have to move from space to space in order to see the apps. There is also no preference pane where I can see in which space my apps are currently configured to start.
 
All Apple needs to do re: Expose is bring back the all windows expose (and assign it a new hotkey), while leaving Mission Control alone, just as they've done with the Application-Specific Exposé. That would quell the complaints. I think I would use Mission Control most of the time and it's superior in most cases, but for when you have a ton of windows open, the overlapped windows become a serious issue.
 
2. What about all my System 6 apps!! I have dozens of apps that will be obsolete when Lion comes out!
What the hell are you on about? System 6 Apps have been obsolete for years. The classic environment hasn't been supported since 10.5.

There is simply too much fail and pathetic idiocracy crap in this thread....blahblahblah
Your posts are opinions. And people's opinions tend to differ. I see no real appeal in getting Lion, and if it wasn't so cheap, I'd probably not bother until I came across an App I wanted that needed it.

I hate to say it, but having seen a preview of Windows 8, I'm more excited about that. And I don't even use Windows.

However, these are my opinions. They differ to yours. Does not mean I'm posting 'pathetic idiocracy crap'. Please, have some tolerance for people and their opinions. And btw, 'idiocracy' is not a real word.
 
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There are also some other higly touted features which aren't that great, at least not for all people. Full screen mode is great if you have a small screen and want to concentrate in something, but for people with big monitors and resolutions, having Full screen mode is just ridiculous. I have an Apple Cinema Display 27" and I really tried using Safari and Mail and iCal in full screen mode. It was really too much...
So, if we examine the top ten Lion features, there isn't many things left that I look forward to be using in the future (apart from the better system apps).
Resume and autosave should be configurable per app.
 
I'm just saying.
Samsung Series 9 = MacBook Air for the PC world.
Windows 8 looks awfully good from the preliminary showings.

I love the tiles in Windows Phone 7 and love that they are also bringing that tile scheme to the Xbox 360 dashboard.

After 8, all of their major software platforms will have a unifying and cool tile OS that works well in touch environments.

I am sad to know that everything Lion is has been realized and have to wait years more to hopefully get a drastic and game changing update like Windows 8 seems to be.

I wish they would have done that this time around.
 
I'm just saying.
Samsung Series 9 = MacBook Air for the PC world.
Windows 8 looks awfully good from the preliminary showings.

I love the tiles in Windows Phone 7 and love that they are also bringing that tile scheme to the Xbox 360 dashboard.

After 8, all of their major software platforms will have a unifying and cool tile OS that works well in touch environments.

I am sad to know that everything Lion is has been realized and have to wait years more to hopefully get a drastic and game changing update like Windows 8 seems to be.

I wish they would have done that this time around.

Windows 8 won't be exactly so revolutionary. At least wait and see what Microsoft announces. Maybe it will become a great OS, but I have my doubts.
 
There are also some other higly touted features which aren't that great, at least not for all people. Full screen mode is great if you have a small screen and want to concentrate in something, but for people with big monitors and resolutions, having Full screen mode is just ridiculous. I have an Apple Cinema Display 27" and I really tried using Safari and Mail and iCal in full screen mode. It was really too much...

I agree - I've got an 11" Macbook Air and full screen view makes perfect sense on there. However, I've also got an iMac with an additional screen attached and full screen view is something I'll probably never use on it (not least because the second screen is not even used in that view)




I'm just saying.
Samsung Series 9 = MacBook Air for the PC world.
Windows 8 looks awfully good from the preliminary showings.

I love the tiles in Windows Phone 7 and love that they are also bringing that tile scheme to the Xbox 360 dashboard.

After 8, all of their major software platforms will have a unifying and cool tile OS that works well in touch environments.

I am sad to know that everything Lion is has been realized and have to wait years more to hopefully get a drastic and game changing update like Windows 8 seems to be.

I wish they would have done that this time around.

Windows 8 won't be out until next year at the earliest, by which time Apple will be well on the way to the next OS X release. Personally, I hate the look of Windows 8 (but then again I hate the look of Windows phone 7). It's not just about being anti-microsoft as I quite like Windows 7, but something about WP7 and Windows 8 just grates for me.
 
There are also some other higly touted features which aren't that great, at least not for all people. Full screen mode is great if you have a small screen and want to concentrate in something, but for people with big monitors and resolutions, having Full screen mode is just ridiculous. I have an Apple Cinema Display 27" and I really tried using Safari and Mail and iCal in full screen mode. It was really too much...
So, if we examine the top ten Lion features, there isn't many things left that I look forward to be using in the future (apart from the better system apps).
Resume and autosave should be configurable per app.

I think on full screen mode we have to remember that 75% of the systems Apple sells are notebooks. Even on a 17" MBP I expect it would be useful.
 
I agree with OP.
Lion brings a handful of new features, none of witch are groundbreaking or incredibly important.
It also drops Rosetta, fail.

Look at Windows 8 videos, looks awesome. The tiling scheme (same implementation as on their new phones, which I am currently trying to get and sell my IP4) makes the OS feel fresh truly new.

Windows 8 I have a feeling is going to destroy OSX in terms of what changed from version to version this time around.

Very soon I won't be an iPhone user (been once since a week after the first one arrived) and if Windows 8 really nails it, a mac user either.

Windows 8 is competing with the iPad more than OS X
 
Pro tip:

If your thesis statement is "Windows 8 is better, revolutionary or [insert adjective here]"

Try to add some supporting evidence or discovery so that your post actually makes sense.

For example:

"I think Windows 8 is better because I'm really digging the tile user interface which is similar to what they have on their Win based phones"

All too often you get these threads where a bunch of unsubstantiated opinions are tossed around. No one's asking for a manual or anything but rather a bit more info about how you came to your conclusion.

Do I think that Lion contains whopping new functionality? No I don't. I think at this point computing is moving from the computer as the central piece to more the network. We rely on the internet to communicate on a wide scale and Wifi and Ethernet to communicate on a local scale.

I can't think of many missing features that are forehead slappers.
 
Well I clearly see a lot of hate towards the OP, but I can totally understand what he posted, the features are not going to be relevant to everyone, so that is to be expected, personally the feature that I admire and use most is Launchpad, others that I also like would be mission control & resume, apart from that the rest for my needs are useless, I have not once found any use for the full screen apps, auto save or versions, and I think the last three only work on native apple applications..

So it's understandable, unless you use all Apple's native applications often then about half the features you cannot take advantage of...
 
Agree the features are nothing big and mind blowing. There simple yet useful, which is what i'll say 98% of people want. Simplicity. I bought my MBP back in January, but have worked with Macs running Tiger, Leopard, and SL, and with each one came the little changes that have made one great operating system.

I look at Windows 8 and I looks like as big of a fail as Vista was, I don't want to remember those days. People say they want a Major over hall with the OS. IMO, we will see this with OSXI or whatever it shall be called, and that will be an interesting day, because I personally am not much for this iOS integration into OSX but its happening so it is what it is.
 
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