MindlessJD
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Are the features actually being lost or just alternative and simpler ways to do things are becoming more prevalent?
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OSX Lion not worth it, not impressed, nothing new
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Are the features actually being lost or just alternative and simpler ways to do things are becoming more prevalent?
wikus
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MindlessJD
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I thought Mission Control was like Expose in SL with the spaces/full screen apps bit at the top. I'm guessing it's completely different then?
Truffy
macrumors 6502a
You don't have to type it all out, but a link and/or episode details would've been helpful. 🙄
wikus
macrumors 68000
Its different, yes. Grouped items within applications and when viewing windows within an application, it displays them in a grid, rather than spatial organization.
Windows also overlap. Its really stupid.
petvas
macrumors 603
It works differently. It is similar but it changes the way Spaces are used. That might be for most people an advantage, but for me having used Spaces for a long time, I prefer the old way of doing things. I also don't like that there is no indication on the system bar which space I currently use. I filed a bug report and the answer was "works as designed"...
What I also miss is the ability to have an expose of all apps among spaces. With mission control I have to move from space to space in order to see the apps. There is also no preference pane where I can see in which space my apps are currently configured to start.
MindlessJD
macrumors member
All Apple needs to do re: Expose is bring back the all windows expose (and assign it a new hotkey), while leaving Mission Control alone, just as they've done with the Application-Specific Exposé. That would quell the complaints. I think I would use Mission Control most of the time and it's superior in most cases, but for when you have a ton of windows open, the overlapped windows become a serious issue.
roadbloc
macrumors G3
What the hell are you on about? System 6 Apps have been obsolete for years. The classic environment hasn't been supported since 10.5.
Your posts are opinions. And people's opinions tend to differ. I see no real appeal in getting Lion, and if it wasn't so cheap, I'd probably not bother until I came across an App I wanted that needed it.
I hate to say it, but having seen a preview of Windows 8, I'm more excited about that. And I don't even use Windows.
However, these are my opinions. They differ to yours. Does not mean I'm posting 'pathetic idiocracy crap'. Please, have some tolerance for people and their opinions. And btw, 'idiocracy' is not a real word.
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wikus
macrumors 68000
Heres a youtube clip showing expose, but not with a lot of windows open though....
http://youtu.be/L_V0AqAG6bE
http://youtu.be/L_V0AqAG6bE
roadbloc
macrumors G3
petvas
macrumors 603
There are also some other higly touted features which aren't that great, at least not for all people. Full screen mode is great if you have a small screen and want to concentrate in something, but for people with big monitors and resolutions, having Full screen mode is just ridiculous. I have an Apple Cinema Display 27" and I really tried using Safari and Mail and iCal in full screen mode. It was really too much...
So, if we examine the top ten Lion features, there isn't many things left that I look forward to be using in the future (apart from the better system apps).
Resume and autosave should be configurable per app.
So, if we examine the top ten Lion features, there isn't many things left that I look forward to be using in the future (apart from the better system apps).
Resume and autosave should be configurable per app.
rmbrown09
macrumors 6502a
I'm just saying.
Samsung Series 9 = MacBook Air for the PC world.
Windows 8 looks awfully good from the preliminary showings.
I love the tiles in Windows Phone 7 and love that they are also bringing that tile scheme to the Xbox 360 dashboard.
After 8, all of their major software platforms will have a unifying and cool tile OS that works well in touch environments.
I am sad to know that everything Lion is has been realized and have to wait years more to hopefully get a drastic and game changing update like Windows 8 seems to be.
I wish they would have done that this time around.
Samsung Series 9 = MacBook Air for the PC world.
Windows 8 looks awfully good from the preliminary showings.
I love the tiles in Windows Phone 7 and love that they are also bringing that tile scheme to the Xbox 360 dashboard.
After 8, all of their major software platforms will have a unifying and cool tile OS that works well in touch environments.
I am sad to know that everything Lion is has been realized and have to wait years more to hopefully get a drastic and game changing update like Windows 8 seems to be.
I wish they would have done that this time around.
petvas
macrumors 603
Windows 8 won't be exactly so revolutionary. At least wait and see what Microsoft announces. Maybe it will become a great OS, but I have my doubts.
Phil A.
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I agree - I've got an 11" Macbook Air and full screen view makes perfect sense on there. However, I've also got an iMac with an additional screen attached and full screen view is something I'll probably never use on it (not least because the second screen is not even used in that view)
Windows 8 won't be out until next year at the earliest, by which time Apple will be well on the way to the next OS X release. Personally, I hate the look of Windows 8 (but then again I hate the look of Windows phone 7). It's not just about being anti-microsoft as I quite like Windows 7, but something about WP7 and Windows 8 just grates for me.
42streetsdown
macrumors 6502a
I think on full screen mode we have to remember that 75% of the systems Apple sells are notebooks. Even on a 17" MBP I expect it would be useful.
aeaglex07
macrumors 6502
nuckinfutz
macrumors 603
Pro tip:
If your thesis statement is "Windows 8 is better, revolutionary or [insert adjective here]"
Try to add some supporting evidence or discovery so that your post actually makes sense.
For example:
"I think Windows 8 is better because I'm really digging the tile user interface which is similar to what they have on their Win based phones"
All too often you get these threads where a bunch of unsubstantiated opinions are tossed around. No one's asking for a manual or anything but rather a bit more info about how you came to your conclusion.
Do I think that Lion contains whopping new functionality? No I don't. I think at this point computing is moving from the computer as the central piece to more the network. We rely on the internet to communicate on a wide scale and Wifi and Ethernet to communicate on a local scale.
I can't think of many missing features that are forehead slappers.
If your thesis statement is "Windows 8 is better, revolutionary or [insert adjective here]"
Try to add some supporting evidence or discovery so that your post actually makes sense.
For example:
"I think Windows 8 is better because I'm really digging the tile user interface which is similar to what they have on their Win based phones"
All too often you get these threads where a bunch of unsubstantiated opinions are tossed around. No one's asking for a manual or anything but rather a bit more info about how you came to your conclusion.
Do I think that Lion contains whopping new functionality? No I don't. I think at this point computing is moving from the computer as the central piece to more the network. We rely on the internet to communicate on a wide scale and Wifi and Ethernet to communicate on a local scale.
I can't think of many missing features that are forehead slappers.
Yamcha
macrumors 68000
Well I clearly see a lot of hate towards the OP, but I can totally understand what he posted, the features are not going to be relevant to everyone, so that is to be expected, personally the feature that I admire and use most is Launchpad, others that I also like would be mission control & resume, apart from that the rest for my needs are useless, I have not once found any use for the full screen apps, auto save or versions, and I think the last three only work on native apple applications..
So it's understandable, unless you use all Apple's native applications often then about half the features you cannot take advantage of...
So it's understandable, unless you use all Apple's native applications often then about half the features you cannot take advantage of...
Mackilroy
macrumors 601
Agree the features are nothing big and mind blowing. There simple yet useful, which is what i'll say 98% of people want. Simplicity. I bought my MBP back in January, but have worked with Macs running Tiger, Leopard, and SL, and with each one came the little changes that have made one great operating system.
I look at Windows 8 and I looks like as big of a fail as Vista was, I don't want to remember those days. People say they want a Major over hall with the OS. IMO, we will see this with OSXI or whatever it shall be called, and that will be an interesting day, because I personally am not much for this iOS integration into OSX but its happening so it is what it is.
I look at Windows 8 and I looks like as big of a fail as Vista was, I don't want to remember those days. People say they want a Major over hall with the OS. IMO, we will see this with OSXI or whatever it shall be called, and that will be an interesting day, because I personally am not much for this iOS integration into OSX but its happening so it is what it is.