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Buying Lion is a complete waste of $30. There is nothing new. Plus Rosetta is not in there so that means 2 apps I use all the time would be worthless. But even if it did have Rosetta, still not worth it.

Mission Control is nothing more than a re-named Expose that adds switching to different Spaces. Not impressed.

Multi-touch gestures are already present in Snow Leopard. I can already go back and forward in Safari using gestures now...they just added a little effect of seeing the old page scroll off to the right or left of the screen. whoopi.... Now Safari doesn't have a scroll bar. WOW!!! Innovation (sarcasm)

I use gestures right now for everything. To bring up Dashboard, Expose, Spaces, Navigating in windows (safari, finder)..... again nothing new.

I could go on and on.

I think Apple is running out of ideas of innovation in an operating system and are just re-naming things after making them look a little different. Kind of disappointing. But then yet, what else can one really do to an OS....

Apple won't be getting any money from me. I'll stick with my Snow Leopard thank you very much until I see something really new.

One thing they could do is make the OS have an artificial AI that you interact with. Now that would be cool! Tell the Mac to open up Text Edit and have it type what you say like a secretary would, or tell it to Google something and it instantly opens up Safari and does the search for you. Ask it what the weather's like and it opens up The Weather Channel in Safari and tells you the current conditions + forecast (using voice) while you look at it.

Ones imagination is the limit with this. The OS would even have it's own voice that responds to you. Now that's innovation....

Though not huge, the new UI behaviors and guestures are bringing some of the polish and fluidity of iOS to OS-X. Even though they're not an earth shattering feature set, they are a welcome improvement to the user experience. Personally, I won't be using LaunchPad, but I can see the tie-in for users transisitioning from iOS. I'm reserving judgment on Mission Control, though I can agree that some form of integration between Spaces and Exposè was needed. There are other nice, though small improvements, that I also welcome.

At any rate, $30 is trivial for an OS upgrade.

Btw: even though there is no speech to text built-in, OS-X has had voice control of many parts of the system for years. You can, for instance, launch apps by name. You can also use voice to access any menu item. Voice Over is available to read many items on screen such as buttons, menus, and dialog box text.
 
To me, it's the smaller changes, the changes that actually help your day-to-day productivity, like:

Right click > New Folder with selected
When you drag items, it tells you how many you're dragging
Improved Quick-look
Versions that automatically backup all the time
Auto correct typing
Hold a letter down and it'll show the alts
Right click on a word and it'll show the dictionary without opening the app
Launchpad
Full screen preview
New & improved Mail App
Loads better Spotlight with previews
Year view in iCal
New Spaces (although I did like some of the old spaces features)
Low power network usage for files
Double tap to zoom in (like on iOS)
More Quicktime tools
Resume option when you restart your Mac
Per user screen sharing
iOS like scrollbars

They're some of the things I'm liking so far!

^perfect list.

There's nothing too MAJOR besides the iCloud syncing.

But that's not what will really matter, I think that it's the amazing amount of small things added in Lion that will truly make people more productive. I'd pay $100+ for Lion, I really would. It's the small things that make OS X better than Windows, and it's the small things that will make it even better.
 
I don't mind the small features that make an OS better but what kinda ticks me off is that Apple fixed things that didn't need fixing.

Expose was fine how it was. Mission Control is kind of a pain to use now. The new added gestures are more difficult than before as well. I find it difficult to launch "Launch Pad" with the 4 finger gesture they have too.

Apple needs get back to basics. No need to make it more complex.
 
People complaining that Lion brings little probably never used OS X < 10.6.
Lion is a bigger update than 10.6 (for the same price), and is comparable to every other OS X paid update in terms of new features (except 10.1, which brought mostly bug fixes), but at a much lower price. :roll eyes:
 
Hold a letter down and it'll show the alts
How does this work with repeating? When I hold a key I usually want it to keep adding that key, not show alternatives.
 
Well I clearly see a lot of hate towards the OP, but I can totally understand what he posted,

The reason I'm receiving so much hate for what I posted when I started this thread is because there are a lot of Apple fanboys out there that will rip anyone apart for saying anything bad about Apple. At least I've noticed that recently. It's like these fanboys think Apple can do no wrong or something.

Don't get me wrong, I like Apple products and have used them for years....but come on. With these fractional updates and taking things that already exist and making them "look" new just to get more money from you??

Apple is not impressing me anymore.....my first post says it all.

They just better keep supporting Snow Leopard which is what I have because not only will I not give them my money for the joke called "Lion", I really can't as I use Quicken 2007 extensively which requires Rosetta.

Thank god I got my new MacBook Pro a few weeks ago before this came out.

And before you start, no, the loss of Rosetta isn't fueling my hate towards Lion. Just the fact that there is no innovation in it what so ever. I don't care what Apple says, it is not anything revolutionary like they are trying to say through their PR.
 
...the fact that there is no innovation in it what so ever. I don't care what Apple says, it is not anything revolutionary like they are trying to say through their PR.

There is plenty of innovation as people have listed. If it doesn't seem to matter to you, then fine. To flatly say it is a waste of money and not an improvement is your opinion.

I think $30 is a pittance and really not worth complaining about.

...and for the love of all that is holy, get a newer version of Quicken already! It's 2011 :D
 
The reason I'm receiving so much hate for what I posted when I started this thread is because there are a lot of Apple fanboys out there that will rip anyone apart for saying anything bad about Apple. At least I've noticed that recently. It's like these fanboys think Apple can do no wrong or something.

Dare if you say a word, I'm going to turn into a merciless butcher and go for the final kill, next friday. Mind you that.

:apple:

Don't get me wrong, I like Apple products and have used them for years....but come on.

First you try to be an ass****, then you try and explain that we shouldn't misunderstand?

With these fractional updates and taking things that already exist and making them "look" new just to get more money from you??

For some of you people, the look of the system is more important than any thing. If something doesn't change from outside, you believe that everything is the same.

Apple is not impressing me anymore.....my first post says it all.

You are surely free to go to Windows and ask for their help and use other devices and ecosystems.

They just better keep supporting Snow Leopard which is what I have because not only will I not give them my money for the joke called "Lion", I really can't as I use Quicken 2007 extensively which requires Rosetta.

Keep ignoring the posts in this thread, calling out our opinions for so called 'apple jerks'.

Thank god I got my new MacBook Pro a few weeks ago before this came out.
And before you start, no, the loss of Rosetta isn't fueling my hate towards Lion. Just the fact that there is no innovation in it what so ever. I don't care what Apple says, it is not anything revolutionary like they are trying to say through their PR.

I don't know what to say. You clearly haven't used the system yet and counting the so called flaws.

From AutoSave to Resume, everything is awesome and revolutionary. If full screen apps are not revolutionary to you, you are just no developer to understand the usefulness of this feature. Full screen apps aren't any easy to code and it takes a lot to actually understand the pixel count for UI size variations. You may be way smarter than all of us after all.

Clearly, the system is way easy to use in itself with good UI tweaks which overall improve the functionality and use of the system.
 
...and for the love of all that is holy, get a newer version of Quicken already! It's 2011 :D

Quicken versions after 2007 remove a lot of functionality I use, especially in tracking investments. Intuit completely ruined Quicken for Mac after the 2007 version. Most people that use Quicken will tell you that.
 
Maybe I'm wrong in asking this, but why does every OS have to be so massively revolutionary?
I like it when Apple tries to make my day-to-day work more pleasant through all sorts of minor improvements. I was also a bit underwhelmed after the keynote, but then I asked myself what really needed changing in OS X that badly? Couldn't really think of anything outside of the things Lion addresses.
Windows 8 on the other hand does seem to be massively different, but one has to ask how much this is wise? I've seen a lot of Microsoft clientele that can't even get used to the dock-like taskbar in Windows 7. Imagine them being flabbergasted over having to switch between 2 types of UI interfaces, namely tiles and classic.
I'm very progressive minded, but such a thing would probably annoy me a fair bit. They have yet to show their vision on how they're going to marry their tiles (which I like from an aesthetic point of view mind you) with productivity apps like Office. Whatever the end product may be, I can see a lot of office clerks cursing on that one, wishing everything was just a bit less revolutionary...
At the end of the day we have to decide what we want out of our computers, a tool or a hobby. For me, it's a tool.
 
First you try to be an ass****, then you try and explain that we shouldn't misunderstand?

When was I trying to be an ass****??? For saying something bad about Apple??


You are surely free to go to Windows and ask for their help and use other devices and ecosystems.

I do use Windows, a lot actually right on my MBP..... I'd say I use Windows 40% of the time and Mac 60%. It's great having 2 OS's in one machine.
 
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Quicken versions after 2007 remove a lot of functionality I use, especially in tracking investments. Intuit completely ruined Quicken for Mac after the 2007 version. Most people that use Quicken will tell you that.

I know...hence the :D

...but it kinda proves one of my previous points. This is another case where Apple is being asked to shoulder the responsibility for another company. Intuit messed up their program for many MANY users. Why it is up to Apple to make sure that a 5 year old program made by another company still works on their computers when they have long completed the transition to an entirely different system architecture?

This is Intuit's issue and not Apple's.

You say that you use Windows a lot on your Mac. Does Quicken for Windows offer the functionality that you want? Just asking since I do not use Quicken.
 
Why it is up to Apple to make sure that a 5 year old program made by another company still works on their computers...

...and yes, I made the same argument when people blamed Microsoft when older programs didn't work with Vista. It was not their problem that software publishers didn't update their programs to work with Vista.
 
When was I trying to be an ass****??? For saying something bad about Apple?? Like I said, Apple fanboys.........:rolleyes:


I do use Windows, a lot actually right on my MBP..... I'd say I use Windows 40% of the time and Mac 60%. It's great having 2 OS's in one machine.

Calling all the people in this thread 'apple fanboys' and much more in the quoted post, who don't seem to agree is being an ass and further an *******.

Good if you use windows. Go for maximum windows usage so that you don't regret Mac OS X at all.

Cheers

/thread
 
I know...hence the :D

Ah....gotcha ;)

...but it kinda proves one of my previous points. This is another case where Apple is being asked to shoulder the responsibility for another company. Intuit messed up their program for many MANY users. Why it is up to Apple to make sure that a 5 year old program made by another company still works on their computers when they have long completed the transition to an entirely different system architecture?

This is Intuit's issue and not Apple's.

You say that you use Windows a lot on your Mac. Does Quicken for Windows offer the functionality that you want? Just asking since I do not use Quicken.

I'm not going to switch to using Quicken in Windows even if it did keep the functionalities. I only go into Windows when I absolutely have too. Mainly for college, work. I prefer Mac over Windows any day.
 
Calling all the people in this thread 'apple fanboys' and much more in the quoted post, who don't seem to agree is being an ass and further an *******.

Good if you use windows. Go for maximum windows usage so that you don't regret Mac OS X at all.

Cheers

/thread

I never once stated "Everyone in this thread are Apple fanboys"... I was merely implying the odds were good that there were some in this thread as negative views of Apple on most forums draws lots of hate and attacks against the OP poster of said thread. I didn't see anything else ass****lyness in my posts...

I've obviously touched a nerve with you for the use of "Apple fanboy" which leads me to believe you've been labeled this before. Hmmmmmmmm

So hows this. YOU ARE AN APPLY FANBOY. Now I'm just an ass**** to you :p Good day unkind sir :D
 
I think the only thing I'm interested in is the automatic consumer version control.

But first I want an Install DVD.

It doesn't help either that it doesn't have Rosetta.
 
i wished it was 19.99

Price-driven wishing is certain to be met in the marketplace by SOMETHING OR OTHER. That's why it's hard to find high-quality dishtowels nowadays. At any given time for any given item, there's a price point below which it's not economically feasible to design, manufacture and deliver a market-worthy product. Yet if people persist in demanding such an item, the market may oblige in the only way it can, which is to reduce the quality of design, durability of materials and the level of workmanship. So... be careful what you wish for ;)
 
Someone mentioned earlier in the thread that in the latest dev preview there is a global switch to disable resume, can someone tell me where that is?
 
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