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I'm not having any signal issues when holding the phone with or without a bumper.

You're probably standing under a very strong signal, much much more than needed for 5 bars. Try finding a spot away from a cell tower with only 1 or 2 bars (tunnel, deep basement, etc.) and try again.
 
HOW THE ******* ARE PEOPLE MEANT TO USE THE PHONE without touching it? There is a problem and you apple apologist fanboys can't defend this fact.

Uh, the fact is nobody has any proof of dropped calls happening from this issue, plus nobody I know who has their iPhone 4 that isn't a part of Macrumors has noticed or reported this.

It's also been stated it's very likely this is a software issue and isn't actually causing calls to drop.

And don't be melodramatic, you have to wrap your hand around the device in a way that makes perfect contact with BOTH antennas, and hold it there for anything to happen. It's not TOUCHING the phone.
 
You don't have to put tape on it dude. Holding it isn't going to make it unusable or anything like that.

Well that's exactly what it does. Perhaps you should do some research before posting. At one location my Edge signal drops from 4 bars to "No Signal" if I pickup the phone and hold it in a 'natural' position. A phone without a signal makes it pretty unusable to me.
 
I think that would be the perfect solution and that would make me happy. It would show they took it seriously and were willing to make it right. Then for the effort I would have a bumper for my new phone.

I think this was Apples idea all along. I know that haven't announced it yet but I expect them to announce free bumpers for everyone very soon. Although people will be happy, as they will think they've got something for nothing, how would you have felt if during the confernce Steve told us that he would be sending a case with every iPhone because they don't work properly without???
 
I understand that all phones probably have certain spots that make the reception weaker.. but come on Apple. Right where people naturally hold it? How stupid. Why not move it to the very top or bottom? This phone is looking less and less attractive by the minute to me. Hm.
 
Why has Apple put that antenna in a place where you hold the phone? Surely they should keep it near the top where it belongs. I've never seen anyone holding an iphone 4 upside down, but then...I've not seen everything...

EDIT: I feel stupid. The guy above me just posted the same thing and I didn't bother to read it. Sorry!
 
I have been testing the coverage with a 3GS and a 3G with different providers.
My 3GS had full coverage when it's on my desk or in the palm of my hand. When I grap the iPhone by the metal edge within 30 seconds the coverage drops to just one or two lines, this is with 3G!
When I put a simcard of another provider in the 3GS and do exactly the same thing it doesn't do anything.
Conclusion can be: the 3G coverage af network A is weaker then coverage of network B.
Steve seems to be right again.... All hail Steve!!!
 
Uh, the fact is nobody has any proof of dropped calls happening from this issue...

Uh, yes they do! look at some of the videos, they show an iPhone 4 mid-call dropping because the user simply picked up the phone.

BTW, software can't change physics. The only way to fix this problem is to redesign the phone.
 
Just noticed that if I hold my iPhone 3G a certain way, the reception drops one bar. But I live in an area where I get virtually a full reception at all times on 3G, so I'm not dropping a call any time soon.

And I'm not on AT&T.
 
If Apple is going to treat hardware issues as "non-issues" like that, I'm done with them. Because who knows if the next Apple product will have one of these so-called "non-issues"

On one hand Steve Jobs rattles on about how Apples goal is to create the best consumer products and on the other hand he says that a hardware fault is a non-issue as it happen in other phones?

Which is it Steve? You can't have it both ways.
 
Wasn't an anodized aluminum antenna/housing an option for them when designing? As far as I know an anodized surface is non conductive.
 
Uh, the fact is nobody has any proof of dropped calls happening from this issue, plus nobody I know who has their iPhone 4 that isn't a part of Macrumors has noticed or reported this.

It's also been stated it's very likely this is a software issue and isn't actually causing calls to drop.

And don't be melodramatic, you have to wrap your hand around the device in a way that makes perfect contact with BOTH antennas, and hold it there for anything to happen. It's not TOUCHING the phone.

This reminds me of something...
 

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I can confirm that on my HTC Magic, signal strength also drops for 20dBm when I hold it like onbottom left side. Weird.
 
It would make a pretty shıtty antenna if it were non-conductive.

The antenna would be covered by an anodized layer which is the point.

Anyway, if this problem can be be alleviated by a case then it is a design issue. If the problem in other phones can be alleviated by a case then they have the same issue. Otherwise they don't.

Although I appreciate the effort to deflect the problem this is a DESIGN ISSUE with the phone. It doesn't matter if other phones have similar behaviour and it certainly hasn't in any way been shown that other phones have the shorting issue.

As always, don't buy first generation Apple products (or face the consequences).

So please try again. This time, be a bit more creative.
 
I have been testing the coverage with a 3GS and a 3G with different providers.
My 3GS had full coverage when it's on my desk or in the palm of my hand. When I grap the iPhone by the metal edge within 30 seconds the coverage drops to just one or two lines, this is with 3G!
When I put a simcard of another provider in the 3GS and do exactly the same thing it doesn't do anything.
Conclusion can be: the 3G coverage af network A is weaker then coverage of network B.
Steve seems to be right again.... All hail Steve!!!

Does a case help?
 
The antenna would be covered by an anodized layer which is the point.

Anyway, if this problem can be be alleviated by a case then it is a design issue. If the problem in other phones can be alleviated by a case then they have the same issue. Otherwise they don't.

Although I appreciate the effort to deflect the problem this is a DESIGN ISSUE with the phone. It doesn't matter if other phones have similar behaviour and it certainly hasn't in any way been shown that other phones have the shorting issue.

As always, don't buy first generation Apple products (or face the consequences).

So please try again. This time, be a bit more creative.

Maybe lacquering the current steel frame would help insulate the surface without adding the bulk of a case. Not that I would want to take apart a new iPhone and start spraying parts.
 
This story is pathetic. No phone experiences problems even close to the scale of the one with the iPhone 4.

I know this is a fansite but you should at least try avoid licking steve's ass in public.
 
Nokia 6230 is from 2003 already, and does NOT COST 700$$$$!!!!!!!!

Plus, unlike the iPhone you'd have to hold it in a completely un-natural* position to block the signal. Had the 6230i, it was a great phone and was incredibly strong in regard to signal strength.

*Maybe Apple considers lefties un-natural.
 
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