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Other Mobile Phones with Similar Signal Loss Issues
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In the future Steve will be remembered as an innovator, a visionary who Revolutionized the Way We Communicate! (i.e., hold our phones)
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I do agree though, the ones who are actually getting persistent drop calls have a reason to speak out.
but the ones with just fluctuating bars, something that has been addressed as a software issue and proven to happen to many phones need to seriously get away from YouTube paranoia.
And if anyone ever disagrees with you, it's "exhausting". What's the difference? Oops, I did it again...
Just like Steve to blame something else for a clear design fault. I can completely wrap my hands around my HTC Desire and it doesn't suffer a loss in signal.
Whilst hand position may effect other phones, with the iPhone 4 it is amplified due to the exposed nature of the antenna.
"Do not hold your phone in this position" is he for real?! Telling people how to hold the phone now.. it gets better
Whilst hand position may effect other phones, with the iPhone 4 it is amplified due to the exposed nature of the antenna.
"Do not hold your phone in this position" is he for real?! Telling people how to hold the phone now.. it gets better
I just tried it with Nokia 5530 and it goes from full bars to 1 bar, but the quality of a call is the same 1 bar or full bars.
Nokia owners start complaining about how you can not hold your phone, because it starts to drops bars
Nokia owners start complaining about how you can not hold your phone, because it starts to drops bars
Blackberry 8820 here.
On table: 4 bars
In hand: 1 bar
No difference in talk quality though and no dropped calls.
On table: 4 bars
In hand: 1 bar
No difference in talk quality though and no dropped calls.
http://twitvid.com/YN58G - proof... this baffles me. This is real stuff. Please ignore my other videos, lol!
"the seams, the seams!" ............many people complained on macrumors and elsewhere weeks ago
now it "seems" to be just that!
not enough real world testing of prototypes sans 3g cover-up cases!
what a pity!
now it "seems" to be just that!
not enough real world testing of prototypes sans 3g cover-up cases!
what a pity!
HOW THE ******* ARE PEOPLE MEANT TO USE THE PHONE without touching it? There is a problem and you apple apologist fanboys can't defend this fact.
But your video shows GSM: In Service, seems only to be 3G failing and the phone switching to EDGE to compensate (after covering the antenna completely).
HTC EVO 4G:
On desk: 6 bars.
In right hand: 6 bars.
In left Hand: 6 bars.
Not that I would drop calls anyway because I don't use AT&T (har har).
"All phones"? Gimme a break Apple.
All of us EVO owners are pissed because of the FPS cap and the screen separation issues, hell, I'm talking mine back. You guys have every right to be mad too. I know I would be.
On desk: 6 bars.
In right hand: 6 bars.
In left Hand: 6 bars.
Not that I would drop calls anyway because I don't use AT&T (har har).
"All phones"? Gimme a break Apple.
All of us EVO owners are pissed because of the FPS cap and the screen separation issues, hell, I'm talking mine back. You guys have every right to be mad too. I know I would be.
Well the problem is almost nonexistent if you're on a strong signal. Supposedly the 3G has a similar problem, but over here I can't see any of it.
Btw, as for Jobs' comment, I'm flabbergasted. For an intelligent man, this is about the stupidest thing he could have said, that particular soundbite is going to stay around for a long time >_> Historical moment where for the first time I think the man has had an idiotic moment :')
I have a Nexus One and can't say I have this problem when in my hand. Even in poor signal areas I don't notice any drop in signal whilst holding it.
If this is an issue with most people buying iPhone 4's then it is a major flaw and Apple should deal with it. Telling people to hold it a different way or to buy a bumper is unacceptable.
If this is an issue with most people buying iPhone 4's then it is a major flaw and Apple should deal with it. Telling people to hold it a different way or to buy a bumper is unacceptable.
I use a wired headset or bluetooth earpiece as much as possible when on phone calls to keep the cell phone antenna radiation (SAR levels) away from my head. Plus that's legally required where I live when driving, and it also leaves my hands free when at the desk, in the kitchen, pushing a shopping cart, holding my iPad, etc.
Guys Steve said it's not a problem! So stop complaining! Steve knows. Just use the loudspeaker and put it in a case, 2 meters away from any living person, and you're fine. Non-issue! Everybody go home.
And in the meanwhile I'll just purposefully hold my Nokia 5310 in the strangest possible ways to show off how it's impossible to make it drop calls no matter what.
And in the meanwhile I'll just purposefully hold my Nokia 5310 in the strangest possible ways to show off how it's impossible to make it drop calls no matter what.
And earlier link in the thread, which is also picked up by endgadget
http://iphonehold.tumblr.com/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/hey-apple-youre-holding-it-wrong/
I am sure at least someone has plans to use the iPhone in one of the many ways illustrated by the Apple ad and the above pictures.
Most of this rage I reckon is fueled from the hypocrisy gushing out of Steve Job's "Don't use it in a manner that shorts the signal" reply when Steve himself and the ad, showed the most common ways of holding and using the phone involves touching the sensitive reception zone.
http://iphonehold.tumblr.com/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/hey-apple-youre-holding-it-wrong/
I am sure at least someone has plans to use the iPhone in one of the many ways illustrated by the Apple ad and the above pictures.
Most of this rage I reckon is fueled from the hypocrisy gushing out of Steve Job's "Don't use it in a manner that shorts the signal" reply when Steve himself and the ad, showed the most common ways of holding and using the phone involves touching the sensitive reception zone.
I'm unable to reproduce it. Granted I live in a signal saturated market, and as a southpaw chick, when i do hold my phone it's with my right. Honestly, I didn't notice anything over the past day when it came to signal strength, so I had to deliberately try holding it in the prescribed way (which isn't how i hold my phone naturally).
If you have a strong enough signal (say 1000X more than 5 bars), you can hold it that way. Lots of places near cell towers get that.
But when in an extremely weak signal area, the exterior antenna will usually beat an interior one, just as long as you don't cover it up or short it out with your hand.
With 1000's of people lining up at 100's of stores for hours, the iPhone 4 is probably quite underpriced, at least temporarily. eBay has something closer to the correct perceived value and current market price.