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Other phones do NOT have the same issue

kre62 said:
Attenuating the antennae with your hand is NOT the same as the iphone 4 issue.

The signal on the 4 is not attenuated cause your hand is blocking it. It attenuates because the two antennas are shorted. This can be done with a penny, and no hands.

There is not another phone in existence that can lose signal by placing a penny, paperclip, staple, or housekey anywhere on it.

Thats why this press conference is so troubling. They say they have been working non stop on this, but a simple 25c coat with a clear polymer on the antennae would solve the problem.

Unbelievable.

And before anyone says "just return it", take that passive aggressive BS elsewhere. If you don't want to stand up for yourself and demand your product be fixed, don't get mad at those who have the balls to.
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You're whining. You don't have the balls to get it repaired. if you did you'd be demanding it day and night at the Apple store and by calling Apple. If you don't like it return it.

I can reproduce the signal drop in areas with bad signal. I cannot reproduce it in areas with good signal. Explain that one to me by it being shorted out? You're not shorting out the antennae, you're causing attenuation.
 
Despacio said:
Why do people act like the internet is running out of space soon or something, if the guy wants to argue this Apple "fix" is not good enough for him, let him, he paid his money for a flawed phone, he has the right. Sometimes I think posters in here on the Apple payroll. It's nothing but, "RETURN IT ALREADY! QUIT WHINING! FORUM SPACE IS AN ENDANGERED SPECIES!"
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hmmm flawed?????????

explain! i can ring people if i want if it drops i call i ring them back :/

i love it!

nerds think they are so brainy yet they can not see the dmg they are doing to thing with there THINGS HAVE TO BE PERFECT!(they are never happy)! even if apple fix this and replace all the phone they would move onto the next thing. tut tut tut!
 
kre62 said:
And before anyone says "just return it", take that passive aggressive BS elsewhere. If you don't want to stand up for yourself and demand your product be fixed, don't get mad at those who have the balls to.
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And you show how big yours are by whining on a discussion forum? Yeah, quite the set you have.:D:rolleyes:
 
Just been reading this thread and decided to go unfold a paperclip and place it on my iPhone 4 to actually test this thing out for myself.

After 5 minutes no drop in signal, in fact it actually went up from 3 bars to 4 (this is with 4.0.1, on 4.0 i had 5 bars all the time)

Now i CAN do the left hand grip and make the signal drop a bar or two, but i've tried several metal objects and not a single one makes a difference to the signal strength. Tried coins, washers, screws and various wire.

I'm starting to wonder if this 'shorting the antenna' issue is actually real.
 
RealaT said:
Just been reading this thread and decided to go unfold a paperclip and place it on my iPhone 4 to actually test this thing out for myself.

After 5 minutes no drop in signal, in fact it actually went up from 3 bars to 4 (this is with 4.0.1, on 4.0 i had 5 bars all the time)

Now i CAN do the left hand grip and make the signal drop a bar or two, but i've tried several metal objects and not a single one makes a difference to the signal strength. Tried coins, washers, screws and various wire.

I'm starting to wonder if this 'shorting the antenna' issue is actually real.
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It's not because if it were shorting the antenna, it would fail every single time regardless of signal strength. Not only that, but touching the gap wouldn't matter because the metal bands act as the antennae, so you're literally bridging the antennae at all times and not shorting the phone.

It's what Steve said it was. The phone's fine (and it works great for me).
 
SiskoKid said:
It's not because if it were shorting the antenna, it would fail every single time regardless of signal strength. Not only that, but touching the gap wouldn't matter because the metal bands act as the antennae, so you're literally bridging the antennae at all times and not shorting the phone.

It's what Steve said it was. The phone's fine (and it works great for me).
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Exactly. If you were truly shorting out the antennae you'd be doing it every time you touched the phone.
 
kre62 said:
I know 1 would work because people have fixed the issue with scotch tape.

Their big meaty hands are still covering the antennae, but scotch tape fixed all. Hmm could that mean...I'm right?
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You might be right, but I have different name for you....
 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LROTHrTR92k
 
Don't Tell Me What I Can't Do Apple
 

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kre62 said:
Attenuating the antennae with your hand is NOT the same as the iphone 4 issue.

The signal on the 4 is not attenuated cause your hand is blocking it. It attenuates because the two antennas are shorted. This can be done with a penny, and no hands.

There is not another phone in existence that can lose signal by placing a penny, paperclip, staple, or housekey anywhere on it.

Thats why this press conference is so troubling. They say they have been working non stop on this, but a simple 25c coat with a clear polymer on the antennae would solve the problem.

Unbelievable.

And before anyone says "just return it", take that passive aggressive BS elsewhere. If you don't want to stand up for yourself and demand your product be fixed, don't get mad at those who have the balls to.
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That really doesn't make any sense in a capitalist economy. You stand up for your rights with buying power--if you want something you buy it, if everyone wants the same thing, they all buy it. If you don't want the product, you don't buy it--or in this case, you take it back. As long as you are offered a full refund, you have no basis to demand anything.
 
Ok an update to my little experiment...

I did manage to get the signal to drop using a 5p piece (very small silver coin for you non-brits) and it did in fact drop from 4 down to 1 bar.

So then I put a piece of electrical tape over the antenna and put the coin back on again and.... it dropped from 4 bars down to 1.

So it would seem that it doesn't matter whether the metal makes contact or not as it had the exact same effect when the antenna was insulated.
 
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