Umm maybe you do not know much about RF but me thinks metal will attenuate a signal more than your hand.... I can attenuate an RF signal by putting metal NEAR an antenna much less touching it... Just saying, educate yourself before you type
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Other phones do NOT have the same issue
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Umm maybe you do not know much about RF but me thinks metal will attenuate a signal more than your hand.... I can attenuate an RF signal by putting metal NEAR an antenna much less touching it... Just saying, educate yourself before you type
anjinha
macrumors 604
Link?
On my 3GS I can only make the signal drop, with the death grip, if it doesn't have a case on. Same as the iPhone 4.
Since you seem to ignore it I'll say it again: I absolutely can't make the signal drop just by bridging the gap, even in low signal places where I can make the signal drop with the death grip.
roland.g
Suspended
Do you offer a free valet service for my passive aggressive BS or do I have to park it here myself?
Ok, how bout this?
Placebo effect.
Other people do NOT have the same issue.
But if you can admit that you ARE having issues, that is the first step to getting therapy. 😀
/end passive aggressive BS. Now who has my keys?
Ok, how bout this?
Placebo effect.
Other people do NOT have the same issue.
But if you can admit that you ARE having issues, that is the first step to getting therapy. 😀
/end passive aggressive BS. Now who has my keys?
I know you think you got me. Heres why you don't:
Other phones antennae are covered by the phone casing. See? I just put a key on my 3GS with no effect. I tried pennies, paperclips..nothing. So, like I said, no other phone....
ant69
macrumors 6502
maybe im just lucky then, as my iphone 4 signal doesnt jump around when sitting (untouched) on the desk.
Ant
Next time you are making a call take the penny, paperclip and key out of the hand you using to hold the phone.
LordOBoogie
macrumors 6502a
He doesn't want to hear anything but what he thinks is true. I just wish he'd go the F away. My favorite part is where this non-stop bitching troll called me a troll. Awesome! 😀
+1
I'm gonna see if I can get a replacement this weekend. If it's still having this issue I'm gonna have to take it back. I can't hold my ip4 the same way i held my 3g or 3gs.
Heres your link:
http://blogs.consumerreports.org/el...verified-consumer-reports-labs-quick-fix.html
Bumper solves the issue.
Know what their previous recommendation was? Duct tape. Hence, this is a conductivity issue, not a hand blocking issue.
chrmjenkins
macrumors 603
I'm sorry your hands are made of pennies. That must make it hard to get through airports and past homeless people.
BaldiMac
macrumors G3
Not relevant? How is it not relevant that you did not considered possible repercussions related to the suggestion that you made in the first post.
Again, why does that matter? The issue is the same. The cause is different. The external antenna has its tradeoffs. If the result is the same, what is your point?
What do bars have to do with anything? I asked about the change in signal strength.
See this response:
God god. Not the point. At All.
Seriously? People on this board need this much hand holding?
The paperclip example illustrates why this issue is the iPhone4's alone. Its an issue of bridging the antennae, not blocking the signal with your hand.
To recap:
Other smart phones: Lose signal because antenna is physically blocked with meaty hand.
iPhone4: Loses signal due to hardware flaw where ANYTHING that bridges the black line, be it hand, paperclip, staple, etc, causes signal to drop regardless of even if you are holding it.
See this response:
God god. Not the point. At All.
Seriously? People on this board need this much hand holding?
The paperclip example illustrates why this issue is the iPhone4's alone. Its an issue of bridging the antennae, not blocking the signal with your hand.
To recap:
Other smart phones: Lose signal because antenna is physically blocked with meaty hand.
iPhone4: Loses signal due to hardware flaw where ANYTHING that bridges the black line, be it hand, paperclip, staple, etc, causes signal to drop regardless of even if you are holding it.
Dude Ive posted videos, links to consumer reports, etc til I was blue in the face in this thread. If you want to argue that putting paperclips on other phones causes the signal to drop, thats your deal. I have proven that the issue is bridging the antennae, not blocking with the hand. Re read all the posts to find out why.
anjinha
macrumors 604
You sure do like to ignore what's convenient, don't you? Once again: on the 3GS without case, doing the death grip on a low signal area, the signal also drops. With a case on it doesn't drop. Same as the iPhone 4. Explanation?
I CAN'T MAKE THE SIGNAL DROP JUST BY BRIDGING THE GAP WITH MY FINGER!!! Again, I can with the death grip, same as with other phones!
The point IS the cause is different. Thats why Apple is wrong when they say it happens to other phones! It's a cheap way to blame shift, see? They are saying its the same when it isn't. Its a flaw they own, they invented, and belongs solely to them. So they should fix it.
roland.g
Suspended
But that would defeat the point of being passive aggressive. C'mon, it's Friday afternoon, whaddaya expect. 😉
panzer06
Contributor
Stop the madness. It doesn't matter. Apple doesn't care. Your choices laid before you. Accept one or not. I cannot believe you've snookered so many people into debating this when it is beyond irrelevant.
Move on, there's really nothing to see here.
Cheers,
Most of you are so dumb. Hello! Most all smart phones have there antenna internally! Iphone 4 is on the outside so by putting your hand on it can effect the signal.!
One last time and thats it.
The signal drops on the 3GS because you are physically blocking the antennae with your hand. The signal drops on the iPhone4 because the antennae is bridged when ANYTHING, including your hand, covers the black line.
You do not need to be holding the iPhone4 in your hand to reproduce signal loss. You can use a simple paperclip. This illustrates that the issue is not the same. It is not caused by your hand blocking the signal.
The fact that the bumper being put on the phone solves the issue proves im right, as your hand is still in the same "blocking" position, yet the signal stays excellent.
LordOBoogie
macrumors 6502a
Really good advice. But I think his random outrage ABOUT A PHONE HE IS RETURNING is why people goad him. His reactions are hilarious.