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I don't buy that first argument. If someone likes golf and can afford this headset, then they're likely to want to play golf for real.

But I absolutely agree with you that this could be of massive benefit to people with disabilities, allowing them to greatly expand their world.

I also think that if any company can make this a success then it's Apple, given their track record.
Playing the golf game and playing real golf aren’t mutually exclusive. My dad was a fanatical golfer, played regularly for every one of the 50 years I was privileged to share time with him, but I still remember as a kid how he had various low-tec 1970s devices at home that allowed him to practice his swing and his putting in the evenings - something he used to do a lot.

As has been pointed out, golf can be an expensive sport, and I can easily imagine some affluent “real” golfers dabbling with the game on their headset if it manages to be fairly faithful to the mechanics of the player’s actual golf swing.
 
I wonder if this will be like all the great games apparently coming to Apple Arcade... 5 years later and you still essentially have Sneaky Sasquatch.

Currently the Vision Pro seems like a Rube Goldberg Machine for displaying iOS apps in the most impractical way possible.
 
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What I want to know is whether there's an additional cost if you already own movies from the iTunes Store for 3D versions. Apple has been known in the past to upgrade versions, such as 1080p to 4K, and of course in the Music Store 128Kb/s to 256Kb/s for free. Will our existing movies get the 3D treatment? I suppose some of that depends on the movie studios who might demand separate licenses and therefore separate payments.

I already have a ton of movies I've gotten from Apple, well over 100 that I've gotten over the years. I'd hate to have to pay $30+ for another version. I'm one of those that bought one of those Samsung 3D TV's back in 2016 and still have it.
 
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Has anyone who suffers issues viewing cinema '3D' done a review of these yet? What about people who get motion sick playing some video games?

I'm just curious what the 3D experience is really like and if it triggers any old or new types of disorientation issues.
I have a Samsung 3D TV from 2016 and it looks really cool. I've never had any issues with nausea or any other ill effects people have reported from 3D. The glasses feel like cheap plastic but they work. The 3D effect is really nice.
 
Fear not! They cost the same. I think I paid literally $1 for Everest (second hand, code) and it's 3D/compatible with the Vision Pro.
Apple-TV-App-3D-Movie-Everest.jpg

  • 47 Ronin
  • Cirque Du Soleil: Worlds Away
  • Everest
  • Hansel and Gretel Witch Hunters
  • Jurassic World Dominion
  • Kung Fu Panda 3
  • Mortal Engines
  • Pacific Rim Uprising
  • Sanctum
  • Shrek
  • Skyscraper
  • Tad the Lost Explorer and the Secret of King Midas
  • The Boss Baby: Family Business
  • The Little Princess
  • The Nut Job 2: Nutty by Nature
  • The Secret Life of Pets 2
  • Trolls
  • Trolls World Tour
  • Warcraft
Where did you get this screenshot from? I saw an article say it appeared in tvOS 17.2 beta, but 17.2 is already out and that 3D VP icon appears nowhere on those movies on my Apple TV running 17.2. I actually own two of those movies on the list but no 3D icon in sight. I wonder if that icon only appears on the Vision Pro app and not Apple TV's attached to regular TV's.
 
There's been nothing 'WOW' about the Vision Pro yet.

Compare to this from Microsoft: 2:25
You are right, that is a much better demo than anything Apple has come up with.
More like the multitouch demos that inspired the original iPhone.
Apple's focus on 2D UI elements in the Vision Pro is really strange.
It's like their engineers went to all the trouble of creating a complex device that can accurately display virtual 3D objects, but the management said "No, no, no we want to see icons like the ones on my iPhone!".
 
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Even tho I’m not getting one (too expensive for me), it would be super cool if Cyan had ported the latest Myst remake to the Vision Pro, to be able to play it in 3D.
 
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You are right, that is a much better demo than anything Apple has come up with.
More like the multitouch demos that inspired the original iPhone.
Apple's focus on 2D UI elements in the Vision Pro is really strange.
It's like their engineers went to all the trouble of creating a complex device that can accurately display virtual 3D objects, but the management said "No, no, no we want to see icons like the ones on my iPhone!".
I think part of Apple's messaging with Vision Pro is making sure it isn't seen as a gaming machine only. It has to be perceived as a general purpose computer, which is why they have leaned so far into the productivity side of it and the 2D UI elements you mentioned.

However, with the voice and hand gestures, plus the AR Kit behind the scenes, I don't see any reason why this exact demo couldn't run on Vision Pro. Once the Vision Pro is out and apps starting coming out that are designed for it you'll start seeing more stuff like this.
 
I think part of Apple's messaging with Vision Pro is making sure it isn't seen as a gaming machine only. It has to be perceived as a general purpose computer, which is why they have leaned so far into the productivity side of it and the 2D UI elements you mentioned.

However, with the voice and hand gestures, plus the AR Kit behind the scenes, I don't see any reason why this exact demo couldn't run on Vision Pro. Once the Vision Pro is out and apps starting coming out that are designed for it you'll start seeing more stuff like this.
What I don't understand is why they are keeping the iOS UI at all. The requirement for grids of 2D icons is a 'limitation' of the fact that the iOS UI has to be restrained to a 2D screen.
 
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This argument at this price boils down to can you afford it ? Its even less of an essential than pretty much any other product and if you can afford it then why not ? All the rest is just sour grapes ! (Ducks)

And of course you should be thanking them when you have yours for 500 dollars at the 4th gen time.....
 
Don't we all just love watching movies on a large screen all by ourselves? Yeah Apple got this one right.
Movies aren’t always a social experience nor do they always need to be. Many movie buffs prefer to watch movies alone without distraction to fully experience the film, particularly certain types of films. Also not everyone in the same household wants to/can watch all the same movies, and so people have to watch alone anyway. And then there are people who live alone. TVs and theaters will always still be there for the social experience.

Sometimes people are great to have around, sometimes not 😆
 
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The cool thing about VR is that we already have a few really good VR games out.

Oh wait... exactly none of them will work with this.
 
The cool thing about VR is that we already have a few really good VR games out.

Oh wait... exactly none of them will work with this.
This is where Apple will need to work with game developers to incentivize them to adapt those existing games for AVP. Maybe some will be ported over by the end of the year. We’ll see.
 
Well I’m not sure what Netlix was meant to have shown today? But you can see why people,thought it may have been Apple VR related:


EDIT: oh never mind lol, it’s a pre trailer for todays full trailer of 3 Body Problem. A new SciFi series or film coming out, looks good though.
 
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Movies aren’t always a social experience nor do they always need to be. Many movie buffs prefer to watch movies alone without distraction to fully experience the film, particularly certain types of films. Also not everyone in the same household wants to/can watch all the same movies, and so people have to watch alone anyway. And then there are people who live alone. TVs and theaters will always still be there for the social experience.

Sometimes people are great to have around, sometimes not 😆
Yes but one could argue that large screens are meant for group viewing, and Vision Pro's whole premise for content consumption is that you can superimpose the screen on your wall.
 
Yes but one could argue that large screens are meant for group viewing, and Vision Pro's whole premise for content consumption is that you can superimpose the screen on your wall.
That’s cool. Super affluent households can just have AVPs for each member of the family and do some sort of group watch. They get their group experience and Apple gets their truckload of money.
 
That’s cool. Super affluent households can just have AVPs for each member of the family and do some sort of group watch. They get their group experience and Apple gets their truckload of money.
One can buy a 75" 8K Mini Led TV for 3 of those toys.. and not looking like a family of dorks comes as a bonus.
 
Yes but one could argue that large screens are meant for group viewing, and Vision Pro's whole premise for content consumption is that you can superimpose the screen on your wall.
I mean, if you could resize your iPad to a movie theater size screen when watching alone anyway, why wouldn’t you? 🤷‍♂️
 
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One can buy a 75" 8K Mini Led TV for 3 of those toys.. and not looking like a family of dorks comes as a bonus.
But it’s not the same as AVP. It lacks 3D movies and cool environmental backgrounds and Minority Report-like hand gestures.
 
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