Not for two SO-DIMMs.
Take a look at the specs. That laptop uses 4 memory modules. If the mini had four slots then it would be much cheaper to upgrade to 16GB.
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Higher density chips have lower yields. Once the process gets better the price will go down. Heck, I once paid $1100 for a 32MB SIMM.
Good for a Server
Where this would be reasionable is in the Mac Mini Server.
For $2949 you can build a core I7 quad server with 128 GB of SATA 3 SSD storage (RAID 1) and 16GB's of Ram. The Mac Mini in this config will deliver disk data rates of over 1000MB/S. A very impressave mid level server for a good price at that server level. But what it has over it's other server compeditors is it's power draw. This config draws around 40 watts. Low watts = low heat = Low noise. Plus it has thunderbolt.
Where this would be reasionable is in the Mac Mini Server.
For $2949 you can build a core I7 quad server with 128 GB of SATA 3 SSD storage (RAID 1) and 16GB's of Ram. The Mac Mini in this config will deliver disk data rates of over 1000MB/S. A very impressave mid level server for a good price at that server level. But what it has over it's other server compeditors is it's power draw. This config draws around 40 watts. Low watts = low heat = Low noise. Plus it has thunderbolt.
if 8gb sticks cost so much im not surprised that we don't see an 8gb option for macbook airs, imagine how much one would cost from apple
Ummm, the MBA still uses a 2x2GB setup for the 4GB so you would need to compare what it would cost for 2x4GB worth of memory (or about $50 more).
Seriously, reading and comprehension on this board is severely lacking.
I'll wait for a year when the 8GB RAM Chips drop rapidly and then reconsider through NewEgg.
In 1996 before leaving for NeXT I sold 32MB SIMMS for DEC PCs that were $1600. Only the Animation and Engineering departments at the University or the department heads would fork over that kind of money so they could be the latest.
In 1996 before leaving for NeXT I sold 32MB SIMMS for DEC PCs that were $1600. Only the Animation and Engineering departments at the University or the department heads would fork over that kind of money so they could be the latest.
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Standard IANAL disclaimer applies...
Once you crack the case of your iMac or Mac Mini, you are putting your warranty at risk. Perhaps you might prevail in a lawsuit, but that's a lot of trouble just to upgrade your hard drive. Again, if you want the SSD, you're better off purchasing it from Apple at the time the system is built. If you want to customize freely, you are better off buying a Mac Pro, which is designed with component swapping in mind.
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I can't wait till 8GB sticks cost as much as 4GB sticks. When I bought my MBP in Janurary, I upgraded to 8GB (2X4GB) for $109. It was a steal and a must for anyone running 4GB of RAM. You will really notice a difference even if you dont use high end applicatons. I told my brother he should do it on his 13" MBP considering he does some editing projects on the side.
I can see in 2-3 years upgrading to 16GB (2X8GB) will cost $150-$300.
I can't wait till 8GB sticks cost as much as 4GB sticks. When I bought my MBP in Janurary, I upgraded to 8GB (2X4GB) for $109. It was a steal and a must for anyone running 4GB of RAM. You will really notice a difference even if you dont use high end applicatons. I told my brother he should do it on his 13" MBP considering he does some editing projects on the side.
I can see in 2-3 years upgrading to 16GB (2X8GB) will cost $150-$300.
I'd rather have the older 'fat' Mac Mini and have it with 6 or 8 RAM slots. That way we could get away with the cheaper 2GB sticks.
I suppose having Apple force people who want 16 GB to buy 2 8GB sticks is good in the long run though. Some idiots with money to burn will buy them, causing the price to the rest of us to drop in a couple of years
I suppose having Apple force people who want 16 GB to buy 2 8GB sticks is good in the long run though. Some idiots with money to burn will buy them, causing the price to the rest of us to drop in a couple of years
I have a ThinkPad w520 with 16G memory in my lap right now. The cost of the memory through my employer was $33 per 4G or $132 total.
I asked for a 15" MacBook Pro but unfortunately needed 16G memory for my work - and the cost of the MBP shot to over $3500 by the time the memory was considered, ergo I got stuck with a ThinkPad. (My ThinkPad is a 2.2GHz i7 quad with a 1920x1080 monitor - so pound for pound it meets or beats the 15" MBP. It just doesn't run OS X, dang-it!)
I believe the ThinkPad can go up to 32G using 8G DIMMs, but that would be a pricey upgrade. Hopefully 8G DIMMs will be a lot cheaper by the time I'm ready for my next upgrade and I can go back to Mac.
Sam
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What do you for work that requires 16GB of RAM?! Wow. You a graphic designer or video editor?
smchan said:
I have a ThinkPad w520 with 16G memory in my lap right now. The cost of the memory through my employer was $33 per 4G or $132 total.
I asked for a 15" MacBook Pro but unfortunately needed 16G memory for my work - and the cost of the MBP shot to over $3500 by the time the memory was considered, ergo I got stuck with a ThinkPad. (My ThinkPad is a 2.2GHz i7 quad with a 1920x1080 monitor - so pound for pound it meets or beats the 15" MBP. It just doesn't run OS X, dang-it!)
I believe the ThinkPad can go up to 32G using 8G DIMMs, but that would be a pricey upgrade. Hopefully 8G DIMMs will be a lot cheaper by the time I'm ready for my next upgrade and I can go back to Mac.
Sam
What do you for work that requires 16GB of RAM?! Wow. You a graphic designer or video editor?
With all the room they saved by removing the optical drive, you would think there's enough room for four RAM sockets.
Anyone remember when they used to sell SIMM Doublers or DIMM Doublers or something like that? Where you would take two lower capacity sticks of RAM and put them in this adapter that fit into each socket on your motherboard? I remember using them on something like a PowerMac 8100 or 8500. It was a great use of old memory sticks. There's no way something like that could fit in a mini, I guess.
Anyone remember when they used to sell SIMM Doublers or DIMM Doublers or something like that? Where you would take two lower capacity sticks of RAM and put them in this adapter that fit into each socket on your motherboard? I remember using them on something like a PowerMac 8100 or 8500. It was a great use of old memory sticks. There's no way something like that could fit in a mini, I guess.
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If I had the cash it might be worth it. I don't so I will just ignore it.
However this does highlight one thing, this is a major Mini update. The little box is far more capable than the previous generation. One can now have a rather impressive computational platform in a little package.
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If I had the cash it might be worth it. I don't so I will just ignore it.
However this does highlight one thing, this is a major Mini update. The little box is far more capable than the previous generation. One can now have a rather impressive computational platform in a little package.
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That is your impression of the machines. Frankly I see them as far more capable, especially with this new release. You can reasonably run OpenCL and OpenGL code on the model with the AMD GPU for example.
In fact I'd be willing to say the new Minis are a very cost effective workstation for less demanding work. Without spinning tall tales they are more powerful then any computer I've owned in the past.
So I think your opinion of the Minis is out of place. They are now very capable little boxes.
jonathandlopez said:What's the point in having so much RAM in a simple desktop that's not meant to be doing a whole lot of work. The whole point is to save money with the Mini--honestly, the 2.4GHz 2GB model ran Photoshop CS3 just fine for me when I was working with 90mb files.
That is your impression of the machines. Frankly I see them as far more capable, especially with this new release. You can reasonably run OpenCL and OpenGL code on the model with the AMD GPU for example.
In fact I'd be willing to say the new Minis are a very cost effective workstation for less demanding work. Without spinning tall tales they are more powerful then any computer I've owned in the past.
So I think your opinion of the Minis is out of place. They are now very capable little boxes.
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$2000 for a Mini and 16 gigs of RAM? I think I'd rather get an iMac and take a three day vacation.
$2000 for a Mini and 16 gigs of RAM? I think I'd rather get an iMac and take a three day vacation.
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I remember many years ago I needed a 64 MEG SIMM for a server and it was $1079. Fortunately the guy at the store told me the price was going to drop tomorrow and I got it gor 519.
I remember my first hard drive was a 5 MEG drive for an apple ii and was 800.
I remember many years ago I needed a 64 MEG SIMM for a server and it was $1079. Fortunately the guy at the store told me the price was going to drop tomorrow and I got it gor 519.
I remember my first hard drive was a 5 MEG drive for an apple ii and was 800.
Newegg doesn't even offer 8GB SO-DIMMS.
Crucial, Corsair and Kingston don't offer them.
Crucial doesn't even have memory targeted for a recently released Mac mini and Crucial has nothing for any of the SO-DIMM based Macs.
So I was considering getting a w520 off of eBay. Since you seem to be using it on your lap - I take it heat or weight are not that big of an issue?
Care to comment on the machine a bit? My use will be as a development workstation - lot of compiles etc. TIA.
6 months or so from now the prices will be about half or more for the RAM and the SSD. At that point for a bit more than the price of 2 maxed minis now you could buy 4 and set them up as a grid.
4 w/ i7Q SSD RAID in each, 8gb in each, TB to connect them. I would love to see numbers on that from colo. It's gonna be faster and smaller than 2U of X-serves.
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