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Palm Pre Continues to Generate Interest at CTIA Mobile
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Yeah the iTunes malware is so bad that it has still become the number one music store, I mean all the users using it are so clueless to know they are using a virus.
That is the most ridiculous statement. I presume you don't use iTunes at all, then, if it's a "virus"? Use a PeeCee if you want to know what a real virus looks like.
Regarding Apple and Competition
A few folks here have claimed Apple has a history of ignoring its rivals, that it doesn't focus on any competition; that they do their own thing regardless. Well, to these folks, I think you're wrong. If you were correct and Apple was so good and so far ahead of the competition, they wouldn't be so aggressive with their patent-infringement lawsuits for the supposed iPhone Killers.
I know companies are compelled to defend their patents regardless - but it seems to me if Apple has nothing to worry about the Pre, and Palm is on the way out of the market, we won't need to worry about Apple wasting valuable R&D dollars on legal expenses, right?
Sometimes I wonder who is more arrogant: Apple or its fanboys.
A few folks here have claimed Apple has a history of ignoring its rivals, that it doesn't focus on any competition; that they do their own thing regardless. Well, to these folks, I think you're wrong. If you were correct and Apple was so good and so far ahead of the competition, they wouldn't be so aggressive with their patent-infringement lawsuits for the supposed iPhone Killers.
I know companies are compelled to defend their patents regardless - but it seems to me if Apple has nothing to worry about the Pre, and Palm is on the way out of the market, we won't need to worry about Apple wasting valuable R&D dollars on legal expenses, right?
Sometimes I wonder who is more arrogant: Apple or its fanboys.
A few folks here have claimed Apple has a history of ignoring its rivals, that it doesn't focus on any competition; that they do their own thing regardless. Well, to these folks, I think you're wrong. If you were correct and Apple was so good and so far ahead of the competition, they wouldn't be so aggressive with their patent-infringement lawsuits for the supposed iPhone Killers.
I know companies are compelled to defend their patents regardless - but it seems to me if Apple has nothing to worry about the Pre, and Palm is on the way out of the market, we won't need to worry about Apple wasting valuable R&D dollars on legal expenses, right?
Sometimes I wonder who is more arrogant: Apple or its fanboys.
I'm not the biggest forum user, but I have a quick question to ask. Why do people who obviously disagree with Apple's business practices and products visit Apple rumor sites and post on their forums? Is this your way of stirring up trouble, or did you have nothing better to do? I don't mean to piss you off, but its just vexing to me to see people write on forums who only exist within said forum to be the contention.
By the way I like the pre, and I think it should do well as Palm needs a savior. While it may take away some market share from Apple, it will take more away from RIM, Nokia, Motorola, etc. I doubt you will see huge amounts of iPhone users switching to the Pre. The new iPhone will do just fine around the world.
I have always had a treo for my business line (I have owned all of them) through Sprint. I like the new Pre, the features seems kind of cool and punched up a bit, but what a boring demo/ad for this phone. That chick put me to sleep. It is me, or was there magical typing going on so they didn't have to show the sliding keyboard. I have my complaints about my iPhone keyboard, but maintenance on a virtual keyboard is much easier then buttons that do not work so well, missing button, sliding keyboard mechanism malfunction. The simplicity of less moving parts will always set apart the iPhone. However, as I type this, I am waiting in the Apple Store for my mac genius appointment for a shorted out ringer switch. Two or three buttons on the damn device and one of them went already. Pre is snazzy, iPhone will always seem more sophisticated and hip. Not a Pre hater, as I will be getting one for my business line.
If you were a "big forum user", just maybe you might have stumbled upon any of my previous posts on this thread or elsewhere on another topic. Though I am relatively new here, the sample might demonstrate to you an interest and passion about certain Mac products - even if visiting my public profile did not.
Maybe your vexation and premise about certain opinions would be more credible if your own had even addressed the point(s) I was making, sir? Giving you some benefit of the doubt, since you're not here often, I'll simply say you are mistaken about some "people" and the accusation basks your point in a warm pail of irony.
Dude I was being sarcastic.
Sorry, it's hard to tell the difference in this thread. I'm amazed at the number of people here on an Apple products forum that absolutely detest everything Apple makes.
Hehehehe, it's real funny. First they were here rambling on and on about the G1, then the Storm, then N95, when that died down, now they have a new kid on the block: Palm Pre, I wonder who's next for them to proclaim.
I want one.
It is an iPhone with the brilliant Palm personal organizer interface, the Blackberry keyboard and Blackberry push email.
Has the best of each of 3 competing product lines, all in one.
Brilliant
It is an iPhone with the brilliant Palm personal organizer interface, the Blackberry keyboard and Blackberry push email.
Has the best of each of 3 competing product lines, all in one.
Brilliant
I hope it will mainly change one thing - the contract price.
Honestly, the differences between those devices are becoming pretty minor recently. So there are two possible scenarios:
a) Next Gen iPhone becomes pretty beefed up (e.g. better camera is a must).
b) iPhone still remains pretty much the same featurewise, but becomes a lot cheaper.
With either scenario we, the customers, win.
And trajectory - sorry, I didn't mean to be rude.
Completely agree here. Well said. That is why others fail to see the value of the ownership experience instead of comparing fact sheets and feature lists.
Agree too - If you're using a device, why not have an emotional connection with it - make it a joy to use, make it fun. That doesn't take anything away necessarily from it's usability - in some ways it makes it better. An experience, rather than a use of a device.
You can see this by the number of people who're curious about the iPhone, or Mac, versus a standard PC or phone. They're not perfect, but they can give a better experience as you use them, and for some, that's a definite tangible, that people are happy to pay for.
There will always be people on both sides of this endless debate. Some of them need to realize, however, that this is an Apple products forum and trying to convert the already-converted is an exercise in futility. I accept that one person may prefer PC/Windows over Mac/OSX, but there's no need to keep bashing it over our heads until they can see blood. I don't care how many more gigas, megas or terras I can get with a PC, I simply don't want it. I want a Mac. He wants a PC. Great, have a nice day!
I do wonder why some people here who've been members for years do nothing but trash everything Apple makes, and they keep coming back for more and more abuse. To me that borders on insanity: doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
Thank you!
Because they exercise their rights to choose other manufacturers? They love the Mac computer and OS but like me think the iPhone is a joke, yes it has an amazing revolutionary interface, but it lacked so many basic features at launch it was laughable in Europe at least.
And some people on here REALLY do display the reasons why Mac fanboys are hated so much around the world. They are truly blinded by the name and nothing else.
I just don't know, maybe they need to find a way to justify not purchasing an iphone or a mac, who knows.
I hope it will mainly change one thing - the contract price.
Honestly, the differences between those devices are becoming pretty minor recently. So there are two possible scenarios:
a) Next Gen iPhone becomes pretty beefed up (e.g. better camera is a must).
b) iPhone still remains pretty much the same featurewise, but becomes a lot cheaper.
With either scenario we, the customers, win.
And trajectory - sorry, I didn't mean to be rude.
I'll respectfully disagree...
a) I don't care about the camera--sorry
b) Background Apps!!!
I guess we all have a different use for it, yeah?
So then are we to assume that Steve Jobs' comments during iPhone's unveiling -- "We have invented a new technology called Multi-Touch... and, boy, have we patented it!" -- was just posturing, more bark than bite?
Jobs is a salesman, not an engineer. That should tell you everything. He said:
And we have invented a new technology called multi-touch, which is phenomenal. It works like magic. You don't need a stylus. It's far more accurate than any touch display that's ever been shipped. It ignores unintended touches, it's super-smart. You can do multi-finger gestures on it. And boy, have we patented it.
Translation: It's new to Apple. I'm not an engineer, so it seems like magic to me. It cannot use a stylus. It's more accurate than anything Apple has shipped. The software knows that if you scroll, you're not clicking. You can do multi-finger gestures on it. We've applied for patents on various pieces, but you'll think I meant much more, although I have plausible denial since I just said "it".
Jobs is a sales pro. He tells the truth, and nothing but the truth, but leaves out the whole truth. This makes him believable, yet also allows him to mix and match phrases in such a way that people who don't listen closely, will assume he said much more than he did.
Although I'm older than him and have probably done as many dog & pony shows as he did back in the early Valley days, he's really good at that kind of thing. He makes me smile.
