There are a lot of fanboys here. I'm probably a fanboy, but I don't love every decision Apple has made, but I do greatly prefer anything Apple over the competion (usually because it's better in both design and ease of use).
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Palm Pre DEFINITELY KICK BUTTS (puts iphone on shame)!
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There are a lot of fanboys here. I'm probably a fanboy, but I don't love every decision Apple has made, but I do greatly prefer anything Apple over the competion (usually because it's better in both design and ease of use).
No. That's a clean cut. Unless someone out there has a Linux based emulator.
I think there was something about being able to convert old Palm databases, though.
Too bad...
I can understand the desire for a clear break with the past, but they should release an emulator posthaste. That would address the complaint concerning web apps and make the Pre a serious competitor.
iPhone FTW!It was cool until I saw the keyboard....................
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I hate real keyboards on mobile phones; I find them harder to type on than the virtual one the iPhone has.
I don't mind the touch screen ones either, but the one on the iPhone and iPod Touch was just too archaic. The XT9 on the HTC Touch and Diamond and Pro allowed me to type faster than I ever could on an iPod Touch.
The Touch Pro was going to be my choice phone since it gave me both options so I could punch out long emails and documents with ease instead of cramming my fingers on a touch keyboard, or not being able to type full documents at all on the iPhone.
Not sure. Maybe they want people to try using the web apps? Otherwise, people might simply load all their old programs onto the Pre and not take full advantage of the new system.
It's not perfectly analogous, but consider the Palm emulator someone designed for the iPhone. I'm guessing Apple will never approve it because they want people to use the iPhone the way it was designed.
I think the absence of the old Palm OS is just because they want to start from scratch. The old OS was archaic, and the apps run on it were just as bad.
Forcing devos to start from scratch will hopefully spur some innovative ways to do portable computing. With real multi tasking, real keyboard, and true to life desktop like UI I see some real kick @$$ apps coming for the Pre. If not from Palm then from the Palm devos that have been on hiatus during Palms practical disappearance.
I hope to see some truly professional applications for the Pre, MS Office Mobile, FileMaker Mobile (the return), and others.
The Palm Pre has some cool ideas and a great conept, but whether or not it'll have the same results when the final version releases is yet to be determined. It could be another Storm. Or G1. Or any other smartphone that isn't an iPhone.
The Pre is Palm's foray into the touchscreen smartphone neighborhood. It's basically their way of saying "don't forget about us, we're a company too!"
When push comes to pull, however, you have to remember that Palm is a business, just like Apple. They've implemented many new ideas into the Pre, but in the end it's up to the end consumer to judge whether or not they're worth the premium price.
The iPhone is a developing smartphone, so I guarantee you that, come the next revision, it will implement some features which are available on the Pre. It's hard to jump to any conclusions yet, however... when the Pre becomes available, more will be discovered.
That's an awfully big statement to "guarantee" because ever since 2.0 came out (over 6 months ago now), we really haven't received any new features (please don't bring up street view!). Are we supposed to receive new features once a year? when 3.0 comes out? Maybe I'm spoiled.
I love the peanut gallery we have in this thread.
Any WHO.... We will have to wait and see how bad the Pre will defeat the iPhone. I am personally waiting for the apps to be unleashed, as well as clarification on how the Pre syncs with contacts, calendar events and mail.
Way off.
First off, Apple has a hard time putting current technology in their laptops and desktops so I doubt the iPhone will ever get any of the sweet new stuff the Pre has. Also, I am sure Apple will keep the iPhone UI functioning the same way in 3.0, it won't have the desktop like UI that the Pre has at all. Forget about it.
I agree about the consumers needing to judge bit, but i have a feeling that it's going to be decided more on the plan that Sprint gives with the phone. Whether or not a data plan will become standard or still remain an option, or if Sprint goes the greedy route AT&T did and force you into a Pre Plan and raise the rates.
I have a feeling that the Pre and WebOS will be Palm's iMac/iPod/returning of Jobs that Apple had in 1998. They may not become a smartphone juggernaut, they may port their OS to other phones like Google and Microsoft, no one really knows. But the boost that it's giving them (if done correctly) can put them back on top of the business users smartphone options.
For the sprint version of the pre, you wont be able to do data and voice simultaneously, that cant be done over evdo.
I'm just saying that Apple is taking a huge gamble with the iPhone if no new features are introduced (even an updated camera would count...)
While some are good, most smartphones utterly suck so Apple didn't have to worry about adding anything major for the 3G revision. But now that the Pre is out (the first real competition) the iPhone has to kick it up a bit.
For one being able to sync with itunes and the app store and download music and videos from the store.
-edit- and "Palm Pimp" wtf are you doing on a mac forum haha