Er, except Apple gives away iTunes for free, to support sales of iPods. And the iTunes Store makes a little money for Apple, but not much -- again, its purpose is to drive iPod sales.
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Palm Pre Emulating an iPod to Accomplish iTunes Sync?
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Er, except Apple gives away iTunes for free, to support sales of iPods. And the iTunes Store makes a little money for Apple, but not much -- again, its purpose is to drive iPod sales.
Apple will never break this compatibility! After all, they're the kinder, gentler, computer company that's more focused on customer satisfaction than profits.
Oh wait, no they're not. They're a business. Just like big bad evil Microsoft.
Cue Apple Fanbois,
"How dare you try and make the songs you purchased play on a different device than an iPod! You bastard!"
Yay DRMonoploy!
Oh wait, no they're not. They're a business. Just like big bad evil Microsoft.
Cue Apple Fanbois,
"How dare you try and make the songs you purchased play on a different device than an iPod! You bastard!"
Yay DRMonoploy!
I get the whole thing about competing fairly, but if Apple can break this (and I bet they can, but it might cause lawsuits) they should.
There are three parts to developing a portable device in this era. The hardware, the device's hardware, and the computer's software. Apple shouldn't have to allow Palm to get a free ride on 1/3 of the development, when Apple had to do it all.
There are three parts to developing a portable device in this era. The hardware, the device's hardware, and the computer's software. Apple shouldn't have to allow Palm to get a free ride on 1/3 of the development, when Apple had to do it all.
I wonder if Apple going to be upset with former employees who joined Palm regarding this (or even take legal action) . Apple could argue that those former employees used Apple trade secrets with a competitor. However, I read somewhere that Apple does offer iTunes licensing for hardware maker to sync with iTunes.
Why buy from a company that makes it difficult for the media you buy to be used on devices made by other companies?
I can't see why anybody would be on Apple's side in this
Why buy from a company that makes it difficult for the media you buy to be used on devices made by other companies?
I can't see why anybody would be on Apple's side in this
interesting point
corrupt the songs?
I am generally in favor of devices 'just working,' so it is nice what Palm has done and all, but since they took such a shady approach I think retaliation might be in order.
What if Apple reverse engineers Palm's approach, detects when Pre's are syncing, and acts as if the songs have been transferred normally. It will appear to the Pre as though the files have arrived just fine, but they have actually been secretly corrupted during the transfer (only the outbound files, not the library version) rendering them unplayable.
Or more hilariously, they could work out licensing with Rick Astley to rickroll Pre users on every track
I am generally in favor of devices 'just working,' so it is nice what Palm has done and all, but since they took such a shady approach I think retaliation might be in order.
What if Apple reverse engineers Palm's approach, detects when Pre's are syncing, and acts as if the songs have been transferred normally. It will appear to the Pre as though the files have arrived just fine, but they have actually been secretly corrupted during the transfer (only the outbound files, not the library version) rendering them unplayable.
Or more hilariously, they could work out licensing with Rick Astley to rickroll Pre users on every track
Apple would be happy to license the right to sink to iTunes. But not for free free free.
Exactly why do people have to assume that Palm being able to use itunes is "illegal" or that Apple won't put up with it?
Apple already lets certain other players work with itunes as per their own support document below so it's certainly possible that the Palm Pre could as well.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2172
Now should this require some licensing arrangement then that's where things might get ugly if Palm has not jumped through the proper hoops but at this point we simply don't know.
Personally I hope Apple allows it. If Apple decides to shut out choice, that can drive current and potential Mac owners away.
Apple already lets certain other players work with itunes as per their own support document below so it's certainly possible that the Palm Pre could as well.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2172
Now should this require some licensing arrangement then that's where things might get ugly if Palm has not jumped through the proper hoops but at this point we simply don't know.
Personally I hope Apple allows it. If Apple decides to shut out choice, that can drive current and potential Mac owners away.
Isn't this a case of ....
"nothing to see, move along"
If a device adversities itself correctly it shows up in iTunes as an iPod.
It's one of those odd things from the SoundJam/iTunes conversions that just has never gone away. Seeing so few device ever complied with the usb device spec for a music player only iPods every showed up, an the odd other device that did.
But the Palm guys would have known that and it never hurts to let people think your bigger "Hackers" than you are.
"nothing to see, move along"
If a device adversities itself correctly it shows up in iTunes as an iPod.
It's one of those odd things from the SoundJam/iTunes conversions that just has never gone away. Seeing so few device ever complied with the usb device spec for a music player only iPods every showed up, an the odd other device that did.
But the Palm guys would have known that and it never hurts to let people think your bigger "Hackers" than you are.
Because I work at a Apple Store.
Did you forget your training? You're not supposed to post on ANY Mac-related website if you're a current Apple employee (this is coming from a former Apple employee).
Did you forget your training? You're not supposed to post on ANY Mac-related website if you're a current Apple employee (this is coming from a former Apple employee).
Who cares!? If I worked at an Apple Store I would still post here.
I would just keep it hush-hush at workI hope Apple don't allow this.
Yeah, heaven forbid that Mac users should be able to choose *gasp!* what device they want to sync with their PAID library. Proprietary standards rock! Right? Keep drinking your Apple juice....
*note: I don't see how Apple could "not allow" it anyway. Sure they may change the device strings via a firmware update and a new Itunes release but then Palm could simply release a new firmware as well.
For those who are tired of the bullsh*t just download doubletwist and be done with all the drama.
Except apple have always said iTunes is run at break-even to help sell hardware. This will be broken by next iTunes update, although nothing stopping pre owners just using an older version of iTunes.
Who cares!? If I worked at an Apple Store I would still post here.
except maybe you're forgetting the fact that apple has people who specifically keep track of their employees online for this reason... people get canned frequently from the apple store where my friend works - and you'd be amazed for what reasons.
any current employee posting on these forums is in clear violation of their employee agreement with apple.
It'd be interesting to see what "version" of the protocol that Palm is using. If it's working like a classic iPod then it could be difficult for Apple to block it because a change would involve pushing out new firmware for all of the old models.
Even if it synchs like a Touch, there would still be a delay before Apple could change the protocol; enough time to ensure that the majority of users are on the latest firmware before pushing out an iTunes update that requires it.
Even if it synchs like a Touch, there would still be a delay before Apple could change the protocol; enough time to ensure that the majority of users are on the latest firmware before pushing out an iTunes update that requires it.
There is no need to call names.
How would they know if I posted on here in my free time if I hypothetically worked there?