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Palm Pre to Launch June 6th Priced at $199.99
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That is the first really cool thing I've heard about the Pre. Of course, my employer would have to support something other than BB for it to be useful for me... well, one can hope.
(rant: why do people love blackberry so much? forget iphone vs. pre... I love the iphone, and the Pre looks great too. Blackberry is laughable by comparison. I have to carry a curve for work, and the thing fails so badly in so many ways I don't even know where to start. It's advanced technology - for 2001. Sigh. /rant and don flamesuit)
My gf drops more calls on Vzn than I do on AT&T (Boston). True story.
AT&T is excellent in Boston. Tons of coverage, no dropped calls. I also had no problems whatsoever in the greater DC area.
haha, comeback of the day.
As far as the article about the new iphone, what I don't get is this conclusion: "Overall, if these claims are true, this is a relatively minor upgrade."
Um... what? If twice the capacity, processing power, and RAM, with a new camera, compass, casing, and screen, plus 1.5x battery life AND OS 3.0 is a "minor upgrade," what exactly would be major? That's a far more significant upgrade than the 2G to 3G upgrade of a year ago. It improves the iphone hardware in just about every meaningful way possible. at the current time. Sign. me. up.
You are a minority, most people have their info on Google, Yahoo, Exchange, MobileMe or something similar. If you need to have your contacts on your computer MissingSync will support the Pre soon after launch.
I guess our bone of contention is "compared to what". I'd say "compared to iPhone OS 2.0". What is your perspective?
Nonsense! Everyone knows that 3.0 has many new features other than copy/paste and search. I would agree with you that 3.0 is not a "whole new experience", but you're overstating your case.
The problem for Pre going into launch will be the lack of apps. The phone interface and included apps look pretty great compared to iPhone, but iPhone is now the Windows of smartphones: the platform that isn't as good, but has lots and lots and lots of apps
I have an iPhone 3G and my next phone won't be from Apple, but from Palm. I don't care about iPhone 3. I'm sure I'm not the only one who is happy to ditch the iPhone and its closed model.
Also, what do you understand by "native apps"? Both Cocoa and Mojo offer access to the phone hardware, so what's the difference? Just because they are written in HTML+CSS+JS doesn't mean they are not native. And Pre apps are even more integrated into the OS than iPhone apps ever were.
Well, you can do what I did - enable Google sync support for Calendar and Contacts (native in OS X) then you can use the Pre's built in Google sync. You could then cancel your MobileMe and save yourself $70 a year like I did. Google also provides Exchange sync for Calendar and Contacts so you can use that too.
Missing Sync also noted that they will support the Pre sometime after launch.
The one downside is that the Pre wont support iTunes/iPhoto directly (that I know of) but Missing Sync will and does for other mobiles. As a Mac user I wish companies would cater to our apps but the reality is that we only have 12% at best market share.
Compared to iPhone OS 2.0 of course. What makes it a whole new experience? Copy and paste and spotlight != new experience.
And they are the only major feature additions that you would use often. And MMS for some but that isn't a new experience it just one less annoyance.
Don't forget that the Pre supports HTML5 which allows for local storage so it wont have to go to the network for data - it can store it locally.
If DataViz can create an Office Document reader AND EDITOR with the SDK it's powerful enough for just about anything.
You may want to look a bit more closely at WebOS before you rave about how great you understand it to be. Its nothing but multi-tabbed browser pages. Of course those can multi-task. Big deal.
The APIs have no animation or graphic access so gaming will be non-existent on the Pre. Palm has said that explicitly.
Everything it claims as unique can be added to the iPhone quickly via OS or application.
That said, I'm sure its a nice little device... but I don't think it will fare well against the Apple ecosystem.
They might be the only "major feature additions" that you would use often. That doesn't mean the following are not part of the new experience for others:
- In-App Purchasing
- Peer-to-Peer Connectivity
- Third-Party Accessory Apps
- Push Notification
- Turn by Turn GPS
- Landscape keyboard
- Voice Memos
- A2DP Bluetooth
- etc.
On average, only about 60% of the people who could claim a rebate actually do so. Either they send it in late, don't fulfill the requirements or they simply don't do it at all. It is a legal way to advertise the product at a lower rate, when in reality they only end up selling it to the public at that price about half the time. This is the fundamental reason for any rebate.
Umm.. Palm will essentially be a closed platform as well. They will open their own app store.
Leaving out OLED screen because I doubt that. This seems to be a nice update but minor. You expect more power and better battery life out of an updated version because the tech is constantly improving especially over an entire years span. The camera is pretty standard in comparison to other phones. The Compass would be cool...but its not exactly a feature that is a deal breaker for people. How many people go buy a phone looking for that feature, its nice though.
The App Store, GPS, complete redesign, new OS, 3G over EDGE...that was pretty major update compared to what this seems like it would be.
I hate when companies use mail in rebates. In reality, here in California the Pre will cost about $325 out the door before a plan. And who knows how many weeks/months it will take before the rebates are actually filled.
Also, why is there no info on the battery? This is kind of important and I can't find mention of it on Sprint.com
Leave the Yankees alone. They've one six in a row. Suck it!
I think you mean "won", not "one"
Are all Yankee fans poor spellers?
What? Sprint is great in Chicago. I have never had any reception issues anywhere in the city.
I really don't understand what part of YMMV people don't get when it comes to cell phone coverage.
You forgot the ever so common "rebate company filed the form in the round file" possibility.
No, we just make more money. LOL,I was in a rush. Don't worry. I still got the "suck it" part for you right though, didn't I?
Capacity upgrades are expected, just like bigger iPods every year. So yes it's nice to have it, but it's not going make any waves.
More CPU power and RAM is nice, but the iPhone OS runs pretty well on current hardware. So again it's nice to have, but is expected and just not a big deal.
A better camera is nice, but likely is still playing catch-up with other phones. Adding video with some cool software (as rumors describe) would make this much better.
The 2G to 3G upgrade was more significant because it has a greater effect on actual user experience. When you check email or browse Safari, going from 2G to 3G improved system response and user experience a lot more than adding some more RAM to they system.
Also, iPhone OS 2.0 was a huge upgrade simply because of App Store. 3.0 is looking good. But not every upgrade can knock it out of the park, because you can only add so many big game-changing things so often. So I'm definitely not complaining myself.
Rather than more RAM, what would make a bigger impact on my usage would be a better way to manage apps than flipping through 7 screens. Re-arranging apps is a pain, especially when you buy a new one that goes to page 7, but you want to put it on the first screen. I know you can use the dock bar to help facilitate this, but that' a kludge at best.