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Palm Pre to Launch June 6th Priced at $199.99

Eminemdrdre00 said:
I guess I'll have to wait 1 more year for my AT&T contract to expire. Tell them I'm going to Sprint's Palm Pre because I get unlimited texting for the same $69.99 and then have them give me the same deal on my AT&T account :)
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Good luck, I've never heard of AT&T or Verizons retentions department being so nice/forthcoming.
 
themoonisdown09 said:
It all depends on what the new iPhone will bring. I'm guessing that the iPhone will not be released at WWDC anyways, so the Pre will most likely have a little longer.
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That, and the fact that the Sprint phone plan is cheaper and has unlimited EVERYTHING.
 
http://newsreleases.sprint.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=127149&p=irol-newsArticle_newsroom&ID=1289761&

Before Pre, you had to compromise when selecting a wireless phone. To get the business features you needed, you had to sacrifice the personal entertainment features you wanted.
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They sure managed to slam Apple and RIM at the same time! :D I think the Pre is a day late and a buck short though. Strategically it's all about the platform and while the Pre is pretty cool and has some nice tricks up its sleeve, I'm not about to abandon all my awesome apps. However, Apple could learn a few things from the Pre...
 
fratboy said:
this is what everyone said about every other iphone KILLER... and the pre is a little to late in the game.... in the end i believe it will go down just like all the other iphone killers.
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You could make this argument about Google, who started four years after Yahoo; or Apple, who released their smartphone four years after the first BlackBerry smartphone; or Apple again, who released the iPod in 2001, three years after a solid-state portable audio player was released named Rio PMP300. There are at least two well-defined ways to make a huge impact in computers:
  1. Do something before anyone else
  2. Do something better than anyone else

The iPhone isn't the one empire that will last forever. Unfortunately, the successes and failures of products can generally be attributed to marketing. Companies don't need to sell to you and I, or people generally in-the-know, to continue to be viable. They need to gain marketshare by demonstrating the value of their product to the less-in-the-know consumer-- think someone who doesn't understand email isn't platform-specific, or calls operating systems "PC Windows" and "Mac Windows."

If Palm can get anywhere near the impact the iPhone has had on the general public through advertising, it will go a long way toward depleting Apple's customer base. I'll certainly take a look at it, as the monthly subscription would save me $10-20 every month over my iPhone. If they'd officially support Linux, I'd be all over this thing.
 
Goona said:
Again I ask you know this because?
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I don't know why you're asking, to answer your question. The vast majority of apps in the app store are games or gimmick apps, and it's because of the sheer volume of iPhone users and the way the OS handles apps. Fortunately there's also a decent number of high quality apps.

The Pre doesn't seem like it's built to handle games all that well, and I don't think the numbers will be there for a flood of gimmick apps. Never know, though.
 
I hate when people say ATT service sucks ... maybe where YOU are but not EVERYWHERE

I live in ERIE.PA and att is amazing here i ALWAYS have full bars NEVER a dropped call since the original iphone. can hear anyone clear.. it has absolutly no problems.. its much much better than Tmobile , verizon and sprint HERE.
 
Will this phone stay exclusive to Sprint for the lifetime of the phone? Anybody know if it may ever come to Verizon? I like the looks of the Pre. Don't want to switch though.
 
buffalo said:
Will this phone stay exclusive to Sprint for the lifetime of the phone? Anybody know if it may ever come to Verizon? I like the looks of the Pre. Don't want to switch though.
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They're supposed to be making a GSM version of it but I'm not too sure about it expanding outside of Sprint. No one has ever stated how long the exclusivity is.
 
jouster said:
They do? Most I know talk about how well it was executed. Bad for the consumer? lol, suuuure.
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I was clearly stating that the Pre won't be talked about as being executed poorly no more than the iPhone. Yes, in my opinion the iPhone in general hasn't been handled very well for the consumer. But rarely things are, otherwise I wouldn't be waiting for the standard features releasing in 3.0 and the new iPhone. Not to mention the launch price scandal. Apple thought the iPhone through very well and it shows. The whole market has benefited and hopefully the Pre will just further push the market towards better products. We won't start seeing better service and competitive pricing until 4G rolls out on both major carriers here in the US at least. What no one would expect is a 4G iPhone. That is when no one would compete. But personally I don't think that will happen to next year or simply depending on what Apple and At&t decide. They simply could open it up to all GSM networks to really start competitive pricing early. I bet both At&t would suffer and the G-1 and the new G-1 will be hurting if the iPhone is in direct competition on T-Mobile. I think Apple will wait to amaze everyone with their best ideas for this phone when they can safely open it to the 4G network.
 
thetexan said:
Look you insecure fanboys, nothing will kill the iPhone, nothing. However nothing will kill RIM, nothing will kill WM devices, and nothing will kill Symbian. They're still around and doing very great two almost three years after the iPhone's release. With as great as the iPhone is, they weren't able to put a single phone platform out of business. Palm never touted WebOS as an iPhone killer, they are simply going after the fast growing market of smart phone users.
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Agathon said:
They can probably create a device that competes. But the goal has shifted. They now not only have to create a competitive device but an OS that allows for a competitive software library and an application store that is as easy to use as Apple's.

That, I think, will be much harder.
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I'm feelin' both of these statements a lot.
 
themoonisdown09 said:
I'm not exactly sure, so don't quote me on this. I believe the reason for rebates is so that the retailer makes the same amount of money. Basically, you would buy the Palm Pre from Best Buy for $299. Then you would fill out a rebate form, mail it in and Palm would send you a check for $100.
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It also serves the more cynical purpose of letting Palm increase the price without actually increasing the price. It launches at $299 - £100, then that $100 rebate offer expires after X months. It basically relabels a price increase by making it a promotion expiring.

My reaction to this announcement is:
  • Day 1 sales are going to be poor. People are going to hold off until the new iPhone is announced in the same way people held off buying a 360 until the PS3 was released. The 360 only became a viable platform after the PS3 flopped and it was the only platform left standing.
  • Palm lacks confidence in their own product. They're launching before anybody knows what the new iPhone will be like in order to be compared to the iPhone 3G rather than the iPhone v.Next. If they were confident in their own product, they'd launch after the iPhone is announced. If they wanted to hurt Apple's day 1 sales, they'd do it in the period between the next iPhone's announcement and release.
  • Palm could really do with the publicity massive day 1 sales would bring. That's obvious. There is no good reason to launch before WWDC unless they're scared of what Apple might release.
  • Mail-in rebates are there to trick the customer. They really need this to work, and MIRs are not sending the messages Palm needs to send.
 
Warbrain said:
Again, have you used it? I use it daily and, yes, it's a whole new experience from 2.0.
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I have also used it daily. And no, it's not a whole new experience. It's iPhone 2.0 with copy/paste and search, just like he said.
 
The Pre has some nice features but the apps are all web apps. They will never rival the innovation, speed or functionality available with native apps. Although it does have some nice features, iPhone OS 3.0 has closed the gap considerably and it would not be difficult for Apple to copy the remaining features in a later update and rule out any reason to get a Pre.

So it might eat some of Apple's market share but it will not have people converting en-mass. It's not an iPhone killer.
 
Anyone know how well the Palm Pre integrates with my Mac OS X lifestyle?

I use iCal, Address Book, iTunes, iPhoto and have a Mobile Me account.
 
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