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Warbrain

macrumors 603
Jun 28, 2004
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I'm getting so sick of this from Palm.

Make a decent phone, a decent OS, and your own syncing software that pairs with the iTunes library.
 

labman

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Jun 9, 2009
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guessing

that the Apple lawyers will get involved soon. and I am guessing Apple will work on another update if noting else to stop them again!
 

gibbz

macrumors 68030
May 31, 2007
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It was cute at first, but is getting old quick. Palm needs to write its own solution like everyone else.
 

9822737

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Jul 23, 2008
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I'm definitely no software expert, but surely it's not difficult for Palm to make their own syncing program?

AnDy
 

KnightWRX

macrumors Pentium
Jan 28, 2009
15,046
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Quebec, Canada
Isn't that what they have been doing all along? Just spoofing an iPod's vendor ID?

No, and as detailed in the article, first it was the product ID, then the Vendor ID, they got scolded by the USB-IF, and now it's the manufacturer ID. Plus they changed the Product ID again.
 

9822737

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Jul 23, 2008
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No, and as detailed in the article, first it was the product ID, then the Vendor ID, they got scolded by the USB-IF, and now it's the manufacturer ID. Plus they changed the Product ID again.

Thanks for clearing that up!
 

Rodimus Prime

macrumors G4
Oct 9, 2006
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It was cute at first, but is getting old quick. Palm needs to write its own solution like everyone else.

Umm they already have done that. They are just giving their uses another option instead of having to install and run more software on there computer.

They could even ague under USB-IF that they are not spoofing the ids to computer hardware and OS. It is only be spoof to certain software to get around blocks and it is only emulating it. Not changing what it really is.
 

sinsin07

macrumors 68040
Mar 28, 2009
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I would care if I worked at Apple or this was going to impact my wallet in any way, but seeing that I only have an iphone, all I can say is so what.
 

KnightWRX

macrumors Pentium
Jan 28, 2009
15,046
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Quebec, Canada
They could even ague under USB-IF that they are not spoofing the ids to computer hardware and OS. It is only be spoof to certain software to get around blocks and it is only emulating it. Not changing what it really is.

But it's not spoofing to certain software at all. They are essentially presenting the device as an iPod made by Apple and sold by Apple to the OS once it's connected and in MediaSync mode.

So I doubt they could try something as pathetic as what you propose since it would be an outright lie.
 

Jumpie

macrumors 65816
Jul 7, 2008
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Atlanta
I'm getting so sick of this from Palm.

Make a decent phone, a decent OS, and your own syncing software that pairs with the iTunes library.

Yes, I realize that Apple invented iTunes, but since they have such a huge monopoly in the online music store, it should only be right that comsumers have a choice of where they buy music from and to which devices they choose to sync it.

However, Palm can go the route of RIM as they did for Blackberry and just ping off the iTunes database.
 

anjinha

Contributor
Oct 21, 2006
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San Francisco, CA
Yes, I realize that Apple invented iTunes, but since they have such a huge monopoly in the online music store, it should only be right that comsumers have a choice of where they buy music from and to which devices they choose to sync it.

However, Palm can go the route of RIM as they did for Blackberry and just ping off the iTunes database.

They can still access all their music, Palm just has to write their own syncing software, it's not that hard.
 

KnightWRX

macrumors Pentium
Jan 28, 2009
15,046
4
Quebec, Canada
Yes, I realize that Apple invented iTunes, but since they have such a huge monopoly in the online music store, it should only be right that comsumers have a choice of where they buy music from and to which devices they choose to sync it.

Ah, the good old Monopoly argument. Maybe you should read up and understand what a Monopoly actually is before you spout BS.

Consumers do have a choice of where they buy music, and to which devices to sync it. Even while using iTunes, which they don't have to use at all.
 

MacRumors

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Apr 12, 2001
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Palm Releases webOS 1.2.1, Re-Enables iTunes Media Syncing



Gizmodo reports that Palm has released webOS 1.2.1, restoring iTunes media syncing ability to the Palm Pre. The release comes just days after the launch of webOS 1.2, which failed to re-enable iTunes syncing and also broke Exchange 2007 syncing for a number of users, necessitating the rapid follow-up update.

The USB Implementers Forum raised questions several weeks ago about Palm's apparent misuse of Apple's unique Vendor ID number to trick iTunes into recognizing the Pre as an iPod. While some had speculated after that disclosure and the release of webOS 1.2 that Palm had finally given up in the cat-and-mouse game with Apple over the iTunes syncing issue, that certainly appears not to be the case.

Article Link: Palm Releases webOS 1.2.1, Re-Enables iTunes Media Syncing
 

Some_Big_Spoon

macrumors 6502a
Jun 17, 2003
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New York, NY
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I don't think the USB forum has any authority to revoke Palm's license, but fromthe outside, it looks like they're not playing by the defined rules.
 

cjmillsnun

macrumors 68020
Aug 28, 2009
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Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7C144 Safari/528.16)

I don't think the USB forum has any authority to revoke Palm's license, but fromthe outside, it looks like they're not playing by the defined rules.

Oh believe you me they do...
 

Kahnyl

macrumors 68000
Feb 2, 2009
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Yes, I realize that Apple invented iTunes, but since they have such a huge monopoly in the online music store, it should only be right that comsumers have a choice of where they buy music from and to which devices they choose to sync it.

However, Palm can go the route of RIM as they did for Blackberry and just ping off the iTunes database.

You act like you can't just drag and drop iTunes-bought music to any player on the market. And if the user has old DRMed music this crap doesn't aid them at all in getting their music on their device.
 

Andrew Henry

macrumors 6502a
Mar 4, 2008
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Why is everyone being such whiners? Seriously some of you people act like this directly affects you in some way, it doesn't, unless you have a Pre, in which case I'm sure it's nice to have syncing with iTunes, so seriously unless you guys are losing out on something because of what Palm is doing, quit whining, it's not hurting you at all. :rolleyes:
 
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