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Those that don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. A lesson painfully learned by the former CEOs of Palm, BlackBerry, RealPlayer, Rio....

.....Apple's CEO Tim Cook together with Ive and My Little iPhoney :D You are right (and will be) about the lesson.
 
Pandora is going to lose a ton of users to iTunes radio. I have iTunes Match and probably will ditch Pandora as soon as I get iOS 7. It was fun while it lasted.

Say that now but look at the iPhone 4s, 5s, iPod touch and iPad 4. Clues as to what Apple does with their product line. I still remember when Apple had over 90% of the tablet market. A little tweak here and there is not enough. Apple has allowed Android to stomp all over them by staying stagnant. Do you really expect Apple to keep iTunes radio fresh? Apple maps is non existent because Google maps killed it.
Pandora will have no problems staying relevant if Apple is in charge of iTunes radio. You just gave me an idea. Maybe Apple should allow Google to update iOS and leave the hardware to Apple. LOL.
 
Never cared for Pandora. Spotify is better than all of them IMHO. I'm looking forward to Apple's new Radio feature so I hope it's good.
 
"We've now been around for eight years. We've seen competitors large and small enter the market and, in some cases, exit the market. I've never seen an analysis that identifies an effect from any competitor ... we don't see the picture changing."

I don't know if this guy is really this incompetent or if he's just trying to sound macho; either way this comment makes him seem like a complete moron.
 
Isn't Pandora US-only? I already have iTunes Match. So getting iRadio for free is very welcome. :D

No, it's not US-only. It's also in NZ, I'm pretty sure that it's in Australia, and since we typically get things last it's probably in Europe too.

Edit: According to Wikipedia, it's only US/NZ/AU :eek:
 
Pandora is not worried about iTunes Radio because it doesn't care, period. How else would you explain Pandora.com still not loading in Safari with popular extension (e.g., Adblock, Click-to-flash) installed?
 
I too am a iTunes Match subscriber. I haven't been a big user of Pandora, but I have a feeling I will be using iTunes Radio once it is out.
 
All music streaming services should be worried. Considering iTunes radio is a built in app all ios users will have it with ios 7. There is no intermediary step.
 
As a Android diehard I don't want Apple to go away. I want Apple to give me that same feeling I had when the iPhone 4 came out in the summer of 2010 but due to being a Verizon customer I had to wait. And I wasn't interested in a 7 month old iPhone 4 when it finally did come to Verizon. Now Google/Android OEM's have surpassed Apple and Tim Cook is no Steve Jobs. Almost 2 years at the helm with no original ideas. Just rehashes of the same old products. iWatch and iTV will be no different; just rehashes of products already on the market. If it wasn't for developers keeping the App store in stock Apple would be no different than Blackberry.

You, good sir, are an idiot. I think you managed to squeeze every cliche bash against apple into one post.

On separate subject, I echo others sentiment that Pandora's days are numbered. The ecosystem and installed user base is Apple's massive advantage now in almost every endeavor they will undertake, and this will be a good example. iWatch, iTV, i______, they'll succeed at all of it because of the ecosystem. This is why Blackberry is failing despite having a great product with their new OS.
 
Honestly, who chooses to use Pandora and doesn't pay for Pandora One? It's inexpensive, removes all of the advertisements, as well as the 40 hour listening limits on free accounts.
 
I can't wait to see pandora and spotify get crushed by iRadio. I've never seen a couple of companies who were more neglectful of their users.
 
As a Android diehard I don't want Apple to go away. I want Apple to give me that same feeling I had when the iPhone 4 came out in the summer of 2010 but due to being a Verizon customer I had to wait. And I wasn't interested in a 7 month old iPhone 4 when it finally did come to Verizon. Now Google/Android OEM's have surpassed Apple and Tim Cook is no Steve Jobs. Almost 2 years at the helm with no original ideas. Just rehashes of the same old products. iWatch and iTV will be no different; just rehashes of products already on the market. If it wasn't for developers keeping the App store in stock Apple would be no different than Blackberry.

I see comments like this all the time and don't understand them. Are you arguing apple should be like android? Because I switched to ios because it wasn't android. Most android users don't like or respect the ios ecosystem. We all know this isn't going to change. Considering you describe yourself as a die hard android fan I assume a closed ecosystem is not your cup of tea. This is why apple and google compete with differing products. I like the walled garden the lack of preloaded junk apps and a company that doesn't give me the run around after a purchase. It was no secret that apple was going to lose market share when google entered. It's the same thing that happened with Microsoft.
 
TIL: People pay to listen music...

Just kidding...I am sure those diehard music fans do..for me, free services are good enough. :)
 
Now Google/Android OEM's have surpassed Apple and Tim Cook is no Steve Jobs. Almost 2 years at the helm with no original ideas. Just rehashes of the same old products. iWatch and iTV will be no different; just rehashes of products already on the market.

And the iPod was just a rehash of products already on the market - nothing original really.

The MacBook Air was just a rehash of products already on the market (yet somehow "Ultrabooks" that mirror Apple's laptops are now all the rage).

Funny how Samsung now has an 8" tablet to try and compete with the iPad Mini even though they already had a 7" out.

Did you ever think that companies are coming out with iWatch competitors and boosting their smart TV offerings because of what Apple is working on? Apple still drives the consumer electronics market. Nearly every other company makes products that either copy Apple's or that try to predict what Apple will do. They all have to constantly worry about what Apple will or might do. Apple just does its thing (this doesn't mean they don't watch what other companies are doing, it just means that they are the tech leader).

Yes, some of what Google and OEMs have done has surpassed Apple's offerings but that's because there are close to 10 major other companies (more than that) who are all working hard just to try and do collectively what Apple does individually.

/Yes, I'm an Apple fan (but use a Google Nexus 4) so take what I wrote with your grain of Google/Android salt.
 
People will be dropping a product for one that might not even work well? And before you guys says 'but Apple....', I would like to point you to how iCloud started, or mobileme, or almost any of their internet based things. They eventually get it, but it takes time.
 
I never understood limit on mobiles in the first place

If you make money from advertisement, how does cutting off your audience help you?
 
I've been paying for Pandora One for a while now, and while there may be better alternatives out there. I feel like Pandora gets the job done. Plus I have a 160gb iPod classic, plus a 30gb on hand just in case :p
 
Is iTunes Radio even a threat to Pandora? I stopped paying for Pandora in favor of Slacker Radio, but I don't plan on dropping Slacker for iTunes Radio. From what I know about it, it just seems meh.

Of course it's a threat. Look at all the people who currently pay Pandora. Why would you continue with Pandora if iTunes radio is similar and it cost much less then Pandora. Even if they retain most of their customers, Pandora is going to take a huge hit.

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I can't wait to see pandora and spotify get crushed by iRadio. I've never seen a couple of companies who were more neglectful of their users.

Pandora will get hurt badly by iRadio but, Spotify is a different type of service. Rdio is more of a threat to Spotify.
 
They'd be stupid not to be concerned about this and to respond accordingly. I can see them losing mobile market share quicker and more prominently than desktop market share.

Yeah. They are definitely concerned, and should be. However, I understand why they are hiding that concern
 
There will sure be some impact, but nothing major, since iOS's market share is only less than 5%. Pandora needs to worry a lot more if Android or Windows introduce something like this.
 
There will sure be some impact, but nothing major, since iOS's market share is only less than 5%. Pandora needs to worry a lot more if Android or Windows introduce something like this.

Er what? 5% is windows mobile. ios is in the double digits around 32% in the U.S that is something very much so to worry about for pandora which operates mostly in the U.S.
 
I love competition!

If only there was a worthy opponent to Adobe like there used to be Quarkxpress and Macromedia. We would not have been forced to subscribe to Adobe applications.
 
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