let's see how wrong you are
gmail users on ios >>>> mobileme or whatever apple crapware email u call it
youtube >>>> quicktime
google >>> bing/yahoo! (pushed by apple)
next time don't question the loyalty of a great product over convenience -
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Pandora to Remove 40-Hour Free Listening Limit Ahead of iTunes Radio Launch
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let's see how wrong you are
gmail users on ios >>>> mobileme or whatever apple crapware email u call it
youtube >>>> quicktime
google >>> bing/yahoo! (pushed by apple)
next time don't question the loyalty of a great product over convenience -
Come on, stop regarding the U.S as the whole world.
In addition, don't only think about the smartphones, think wider. When I said 5%, I was including the whole audience of Pandora, include iOS, Android, Windows (XP, 7, 8, Mobile), Linux, OS X, BlackBerry. Among these, iOS, Linux, OS X and BlackBerry are so small, losing any of them in a whole isn't a life or death issue to any cross-platform product. That's why I said, if Android or Windows release something like the iRadio, that's when Pandora needs to really jumping up and down to avoid IMMEDIATE DEATH.
How about Kid Cudi on my classical radio station for being anywhere near relevant? This is my Pandora One ya right Pandora having good algorithms... How about country on my Kid Cudi? And I don't even have any country radio stations or likes on my Pandora!
Also the skips is annoying. Sometimes I can't decide if I like a song at that given time depending on my mood so I skip and I hate being limited.
Can you back up that statement? Are there any metrics that show that the actual amount of used
email accounts on iOS for gmail surpasses iCloud?
You cannot compare those two. Quicktime is a video-player without any content, while youtube is an online video channel
Google is actually the default in iOS, so what's your point in this regard?
streaming brah
though im a spotify user
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hold on for some proof my friend.
My biggest gripe with Pandora has always been their algorithms and song repetition, not the 40 hour limit. Their artist/song choices can be quite puzzling, and I feel like I'm listening to standard radio sometimes with the frequency of songs being repeated.
iTunes Radio, in the few weeks I've used it, is better, but not by much. In my experience, Spotify's radio feature is the best of the entire bunch by a wide margin. Between that and Rdio's fantastic library, Collection feature, and wonderful UI on mobile and desktop, I have no reason to go back to Pandora.
iTunes Radio, in the few weeks I've used it, is better, but not by much. In my experience, Spotify's radio feature is the best of the entire bunch by a wide margin. Between that and Rdio's fantastic library, Collection feature, and wonderful UI on mobile and desktop, I have no reason to go back to Pandora.
i swear to god those radio services never play anything i remotely like and yes i use the thumb up or rate button.
even spotify screwed it up recently removing the "whats new" feature with the useless "discovery" feature.
like yes i like justin timberlake but that does not mean i want to listen to hit me baby one more time from britney spears lol
even spotify screwed it up recently removing the "whats new" feature with the useless "discovery" feature.
like yes i like justin timberlake but that does not mean i want to listen to hit me baby one more time from britney spears lol
I agree that product quality trumps pre-installed stuff any day (just look at whatsapp and iMessage on the iPhone).
Nevertheless, the lazy, non-interested or people that just have no access to Pandora or something comparable (probably about 90% of all iPhone users) will probably stay with the pre-installed radio streaming solution.
In addition iTunes has more content support than other services.
Pandora and other radio streaming services will definitely feel this.
Couldn't agree more. That's why I switched to Spotify from Pandora when it became available in the usa. I'm hoping iTunes Radio is better once it gets released officially.
and Spotify is a much better deal than both of them combined
iTunes Radio is the one thats (3 years) late to the party.
Pretty bold statements from the CEO. Apple is not a small competitor who is entering the market. They own the devices your service uses bro.
I'd be scared. And I'd reduce the price of Pandora to the same as iTunes Match and then try to get my foot in a few new countries to diversify revenue.
I'd be scared. And I'd reduce the price of Pandora to the same as iTunes Match and then try to get my foot in a few new countries to diversify revenue.
Apple email is NOT free and NOT included with iOS devices.
Those are different things entirely. YouTube is a service to show videos, Quicktime is just a video format
Google is the default on iOS. Bing and Yahoo are other options.
you have no idea what you're talking about.
I could see why they may be worried. Ios has a huge user base so iTunes Radio is a competitor. Another example of how competition benefits the consumer
Well, it benefits the consumer ... UNTIL a company like Pandora (among others) can't compete and goes out of business, leaving us with a near monopoly.
Anyone who dared making the same assertions in the other direction would be called "fanboy", right?
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I-radio is not out yet, so how do you know it's crap?
He's got an Android phone, so he knows.
-Gmail, has been around long before ios. Plus, I'd be willing to bet that more iOS users have their Gmail setup through the stock mail app than the gmail app.
-YouTube, haven't seen a QuickTime app. Where is that?? And what is it exactly??? Oh yea, a media player. Where YouTube is a video sharing service. Not sure what your point is on this. Other than grasping at straws to make some kind of point, one which is lost.
-Google Search, again, something that has been around long before iOS. A lot have used Google search on their desktop. But don't discredit Yahoo. They topped Google in page visits last month.
Now, you talk of "good product" vs "convienance". Everyone with an iOS device has an AppleID. A lot have more than one. So purchasing music is done through iTunes. A lot also have iTunes Match for $25/year. Couple both of those things with a radio now and Pandora WILL lose users. Why pay for something twice?? New users, I suspect that many will still continue to use Pandora. But it won't be as many as those who use iTunes Radio. Convienance is key and while a good product can overcome that. One that is both good and convienant will always win out.
And if you're going to tell someone that they are wrong, try not to be a smart$$$ about it. Especially when your argument doesn't hold water.