Panther and OS 9

[nuckinfutz]

I can't fault Apple

too much.

I do blame them for not having CoreAudio and the I/O kit robust from the start.

Developers are now moving quickly to update their software for OSX. CoreAudio is feature complete and ready to roll. As always if you own the product from a lazy developer you have to harrass them. It's unacceptable to have a Developer procrastinate when you've paid money. Should that developer continue to procrastinate then I suggest moving to another product if possible. Choices are always good for the consumer. I don't buy my computer to be dangled at the whim of some developer. Keep your product updated or I'm moving on. Period.

Porting to Carbon isn't that difficult for small things like Plugins. Porting to Carbon is huge if you're talking Pro Tools.

Lucky for me I'll be starting new so if a Dev doesn't have plans for OSX ...they lose my money.

OSX offers way too much over OS9 to sit around waiting. I'm gonna be ready to go soon.

 

[barkmonster]

ure!Go ahead,dump OS 9.I won't be buying a new Mac for quite some time.
Everybody seems to think the audio issue is solved as soon as the big name sequencers are ported.How much is it going to cost to upgrade $15k-$2k worth of audio software anyways?Which will of course all be made available the day you decide to switch!Anyone here have any idea the sheer volume of 3'rd party plugins and vst etc.soft synths that either cost an arm and a leg,or are so free they will probably never get ported? How many smaller,very usefull little apps are available that we will be lucky to see ported any time soon?You expect me to just jump into Nuendo for Mac OS X without 95% of the tools and toys that are the heart and soul of what I do?
I am not made of the money that lets me buy whatever I fancy like some of the wankers on this board,and I have no mind to just discard everything I've invested because some a**hole tells me to "let go of the past".Must be those jerks who needs the fastest,shiniest most expensive email machines they can get their hands on whom are so adamant that we stop whining about change! OS X does do email!!!
If Apple dumps OS 9 in the next two years,they are not going to be selling new computers to a lot of dedicated Mac audio types.
They upgrade their machines so goddam slow,why are they in such a hurry to downgrade their user base so fast?
If OS 9 (then OS X)were running on PC hardware,I would bail sooo fast,cause I really don't see what's so special about Apple hardware anyways,except that it's shiny,totally un-user buildable from select components and costs 35% more than it should!

I totally agree with you there.

Even now, small companies are releasing plug-ins and software synths for OS 9 only and they've had to wait over a year for coreaudio to be complete so they can port to OS X, if they port to OS X that is.

It's kind of worrying right now for a lot of us audio people, what's to say plug-in companies arn't going to release formerly mac only plug-ins on the PC instead of or as well as compiling them for OS X ?

Does anyone know if coremidi supports patchnames in OS 10.2 ?

It certainly doesn't in previous versions because it's mentioned in the documentation for Unity Session.

OMS might be a pain in the neck for some people but once you've got it configured it handles patch names in all applications perfectly, If you've got quite a few banks of sounds on you're synths etc... and you've got lot's of patchname documents it's going to be hell switching to OS X for audio unless it can read them or at least convert them to a readable format.

One thing that's always bugged me about PCs is the lack of standards for audio, slowly they've crept past the mac, Direct X, 5.1 surround soundcards, internal audio routing (recording the output of any audio app with any other app without using 2 soundcards and a lead or something like snaps pro). All that doesn't bother me so long as I've got such easy patchname management as I have under OS 9 with OMS but running under OS X.

The native plug-in formats, DSPs and countless other improvments to the macs audio capabilities, not to mention the new 24bit audio on the new towers with a Signal To Noise Ratio of over 100 db put the mac back on top as long as we're running everything under OS X. I hope we see a lot more audio software for mac now jaguar is here, new stuff aswell as all the software we currently use in OS 9.