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Panther in UK

Welcome iDean

Personally I've never ordered Hardware from Apple so i couldn't help you there regards advice. However since hearing horror stories on various forums (although the good feedback rarely gets posted obviously) and the joke that was (and still is me for I'm afraid) Panther Launch night, I will NEVER go near APPLEUK again.

Resellers tend to be better than Apple due to the lack of ivory towers, but my next mac with be through John Lewis simply because I'm fairly certain they offer a 2 year warranty rather than the legally required 1 year Apple reluctantly give you.

If I were you, I'd check out John Lewis to check on availability, their warranty ...and if all sounds good, cancel the Apple order.

As for extra ram, Apple charges a fortune plus it slows down your order, buy it somewhere else and put that extra cash saved into software.
 
Originally posted by Jack White
Look at my site (www.fourdegree.com) if you think my style might fit any design or web work that might help you set it up.



Thats a very nice looking website.
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Thanks, I'd be willing to do graphics/headers etc for the UK site if requested.

This will be fantastic for UK Mac users - plus, we can use it to showcase our own work, highlighting what Macs bring to us and our creativity.
 
Originally posted by iDean
Hi, I’m new to this forum and quite impressed with the Mac communities as a whole. I've just "switched" as it were and already I’m bemused by apple UK. Being from a FreeBSD UNIX background i could not resist OSX any longer,

I ordered a new iMac 17"-FP 1.25ghz with 1gb DDR ram(ram extends build time). I made the order via telephone to applestore UK Ireland on thursday to ensure i would receive the machine with panther. They could not tell me whether i would receive the machine with panther or not, but ensured me that they would send it free of charge if i didn't.

The quoted delivery for my machine will be, 3-5 days build, 3-5 days delivery(express). So, excluding non business days i SHOULD get the machine this Thursday at the earliest, next Friday at the latest.

A few questions..

Any of you that have ordered hardware such as this from apple, were they more efficient with such deliveries than they have been with panther? I now regret ordering from appleUK after reading forums such as these. Can i expect my machine any time soon? I could have bought from micro Anvika or whatever, in trafford selfridges but its too late now as you cant cancel an order during build. Even if you can, I cant claim the same discount, nor can they provide the 1GB DDR ram onspot

Additionally, i've heard something about them changing the mouse/keyboard on the new iMac, the machine i played with had the 'soapy' optical mouse which i was quite impressed with. I spend most of my time in tcsh anyway. What mouse/keyboard will be packed?

If any of you, British or not; are using the 1.25ghz iMac with panther installed, what is the performance like?

Thanks in advance, At least you people are only waiting for an OS update (appealing as it is) from applestoreUK and not your first £2k mac.
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It's usually cheaper to not get your RAM from Apple. Usually I get mine from Crucial.com/uk

The keyboard will be the standard Apple USB one and the mouse will be a clear 'soapbar' one which you push down (it has no buttons on it). You depress the whole mouse. To get contextual menus you use the cmd key which has an Apple logo on it. it's next to the space bar.

If you need standard spec macs it's worth bearing in mind that John Lewis give a two year warranty rather than applestores one year. You can only get BTO from Apple though.

A 1.25GHz imac should be quite zippy. If you want to run your familiar unix apps remember to tick the box for X11 when installing panther and install fink which acts rather like Debian Linux's apt-get mechanism for fetching either precompiled binaries or source code.
 
Originally posted by caveman_uk
It's usually cheaper to not get your RAM from Apple. Usually I get mine from Crucial.com/uk

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You depress the whole mouse. To get contextual menus you use the cmd key which has an Apple logo on it.
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Crucial are excellent for RAM, they have the best prices, and most importantly, bloody excellent customer service. I cannot recommend them highly enough. Now if only they'd put the new G4 iBook into their memory selector!

Contextual menus are actually done with the control button, not the Command button, I believe. At least, that is how it works on my system.

John Lewis are GREAT. They have great service too, and will price match other companies who offer services the same way they do.

The only reason I bought from Apple Store this time is that as a student, I get a few good discounts that AFAIK are not available elsewhere.

Floop
 
Originally posted by caveman_uk
To get contextual menus you use the cmd key which has an Apple logo on it. it's next to the space bar.
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You press control (ctrl) to get the contextual menu, not command.

Or you can buy a two (or more) button mouse.

Welcome to the Mac!
 
Originally posted by gotohamish
You press control (ctrl) to get the contextual menu, not command.

Or you can buy a two (or more) button mouse.

Welcome to the Mac!
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D'Uh...oh what was I thinking!!!! I'd better check which orifice I'm talking out of next time!

...caveman goes off murmuring, shaking his head....:rolleyes:
 
I've never been partial to X11 and eventually strayed from using my UNIX box as my desktop machine, hence the purchase of the iMac.

I'm looking forward to a truly plug and play UNIX deviant, especially with the 'wow' and performance factors of OSX. The fact that commercial applications are available from Apple and Microsoft, coupled with availability of open source applications(non-X11, ew.) coerced me into paying for overpriced Macintosh hardware.

Would installing X11 mean that apps are supported within the native osx interface or would it just enable me to run X11 Desktop environments as an alternative?

Regarding Fink, is FreeBSD 'ports' not supported in OSX?

I also only purchased from apple because of the student discount, I’m currently in higher education and working as a Software Engineer for an IT consultancy. A delayed delivery from apple is really going to hinder my productivity as the CPU on my BSD box recently fried (140 day uptime, fan packed in and didn't realise for a month and half) The silicone actually melted.

Currently im on my old laptop which my brother needs. Be quick, Apple.
 
I'm a postgrad student and am forced to buy from AppleStore to get the discount. Why can't I go into John Lewis with my photo I.D card and get reductions there? Is this because they are a reseller?
 
repeat; "Would installing X11 mean that apps are supported within the native osx interface or would it just enable me to run X11 Desktop environments as an alternative?"



caveman_uk; You're a PC/Linux > OSX switcher?

Do you regret the decision? or the opposite.
 
Originally posted by iDean
repeat; "Would installing X11 mean that apps are supported within the native osx interface or would it just enable me to run X11 Desktop environments as an alternative?"



caveman_uk; You're a PC/Linux > OSX switcher?

Do you regret the decision? or the opposite.
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Yep, I used Linux for 18 months before switching to OS X. I was quite happy with Gentoo Linux but I was looking to get a laptop and I found the ibooks and Mac OS X. I hadn't really paid much attention to macs until then. I don't regret switching at all. It's great having the power of unix when you need it but having stuff that should be simple 'Just work'

As for the X11 question. I believe you can do both but personally I've only used it to allow me to run apps within aqua windows. As such they are minimisable like normal OS X windows but the redering in them is done by X11
 
Got fed up waiting for Panther in the Post.

Having ordered my copy of Panther on Oct 8th (release date anyway) I had expected it by last Friday. By Sunday morning I was pretty cheesed off that it had not arrived. So I went to the Trafford Centre in Manchester and bought a copy from Microanvika in Selfridges. They had "tons of copies" to quote the chap I spoke to on the phone.

When my Apple copy eventually arrives I will stick it straight back in the post - silly buggers.

Anyway Panther is very cool - which is probably little consolation to those waiting for the mythical postal delivery.
 
Re: Got fed up waiting for Panther in the Post.

Originally posted by lucius

Anyway Panther is very cool - which is probably little consolation to those waiting for the mythical postal delivery.
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I'm glad you are happy with your new 'cat' I caved on Saturday and am impressed, very happy and have had none of the problems noted in other forums.

Also I think something permanent and UK specific would be a great move, willing to help out in anyway I can seeing as I spend my life working on the net I'm always here...

Stephen. :D
 
Well, I have spent this afternoon registering a domain and purchasing a load of web space for a UK Mac User group. I would LOVE you all to be involved, as I know little about web design etc. Have a forum board being uploaded to it by my IT department in the next day or so, and it will take a tiny while ti=o get it going, but I paid extra so we won't run out of space.

I emailed Arn and asked if you would let me link to and from macrumors as we won't be a rumor site, but no answer as of yet.

The address for the site is www.ukmacs.net

Hope you guys like it, I don't mean to sound corney but it is your site, even though I just dented the credit card for it!

My email is marc.carter@virgin.net iChat is M4RCUK so let me knbow via them or here what you guys can offer - I want a quality, classy site, original, powerful and friendly.

Marc
 
Great Idea

Marc - well done. You have my full support. I'll help in any way I can and I'm sure most here will too........:)
 
This is great news to hear about a UK Site dam shame i aint in the UK No more or at least this present time /MISS HOME... but any how enough of this sob story if such a thing is to happen and i hope it dose can expats join in would love to help out havent got much exsperance as far as html gose but i am willing to learn and also do some webhosting if its needed... of course id like to see a world were we all can get along and have a great site betwen here and the UK Site.. Macrumors dose us proud i think and it would be really crap if we started try to out do them ..

TIME FOR ME TO SAY I MISS SHEFIELD AND THE?? OH DONT MISS THE WEATHER ....!!! dont worrie ill be home for breakfast soon mom..
 
Sabenth, of course you will be welcome. I dont mind anyone from anywhere joining, the more the merrier. Certainly the site is not going to be run heavy handed, it is going to be fair and fun.

I will, however, object to a non-UK person joining and constantly posting abouth their country, and USA stuff for example. No need for it. This will be a UK site, so why will we care if in Australia you get a free pen with your order, or in switzerland it takes an extra day to deliver. NOT that we are going to whine about the deliveries, much (!). I wonder if when we are up and running we will be able to get Apple to look in from time to time?
 
I am looking for offers of support and assistance for a new UK Mac site. Please be specific in your offers, it's great that you can do anything, but I would love to know what.

I will probably start a new thread for this, will Arn mind does anyone know?

For now, please post all offers of interest in here.

Marc
 
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