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No, it really is. How many people want to run ARM based Windows? You want windows because you need to run windows applications. That almost certainly at this point means X86 applications. And Windows 10 emulating X86 inside a VM is going to miserable.
Depends on the application. But for general stuff, it's not miserable. The M1 is the fastest ARM chip of its class around. So virtualizing ARM for Windows probably yields you a pretty fast "ARM PC". At that point, running x86 applications might still be faster than running them on, say, an ARM Surface.
 
Could anyone try the new 64 Bit x86 emulation on Windows on ARM?
I would do it myself but I don't get where to download this windows insider version.
I would be glad if anyone can point it out too.
 
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I sense a business opportunity for running Windows VMs in the cloud...

I'm a reverse engineer and I must have Windows 7+ VMs I can test malware on. If I can't do it on my Mac, well, I'm willing to pay a third party...

While possible. Pricing would have to come way down to make sense for a single user case like yours. The most reasonable price I found in a brief search is GoDaddy. 6 Core/12 Thread, 64GB RAM and 4TB HDD storage for $170 a month. I'm not sure if that would even give you the level of access you need. It also sounds like it would be quite slow for 7+ VMs. Most other hosts look much more expensive.

For the different price points. You could basically tailor build something. Something which'll be equal to or likely faster than the hosted server. That will pay for itself in three to four months. If you want remote access anywhere. You could configure everything with free software. Although that's a pain and I'd just spend $8 a month for Zoho.

If you look out to a year of hosting costs. You could build something vastly faster for your work.
 
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What is the point if the software cannot run an Intel x86-based OS ?

Windows 10 on ARM can run a number of x86 and now x86-64 apps as well. I can confirm some x86 games work. I don't have the full library to try everything, but honestly, they work far better than I can remember Surface Pro X running.

So M1 + Parallels > Surface Pro X to me.
 
Windows 10 on ARM can run a number of x86 and now x86-64 apps as well. I can confirm some x86 games work. I don't have the full library to try everything, but honestly, they work far better than I can remember Surface Pro X running.

So M1 + Parallels > Surface Pro X to me.
Could you specify what kind of games work?
And have you done that from 32Bit windows version or the new 64bit one?
I'm downloading the 64 bit one and I don't really know what to expect.
 
Could you specify what kind of games work?
And have you done that from 32Bit windows version or the new 64bit one?
I'm downloading the 64 bit one and I don't really know what to expect.

I've tried as far as Metal Fatigue (a very old game that uses a Voodoo wrapper to work) and Shenzhen I/O.

Downloading some others from my Gog library to test. I can set up Steam as well, but... I'm feeling so extremely lazy right now to be honest.
 
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That is one confusing article.
Seemed pretty clear to me!

Basically, if you sign up for a Windows Insider program, you can get access to Windows-on-ARM (64-bit), and can run it, but can't suspend/resume a running VM. Presumably, you can make changes to the VM state (e.g. install software) and then shut it down.

It's a step forward....
 
What is your thinking, @brilliantthings ? I'm looking at it from the point of view that it's mostly developers who run virtualization and they want Linux. Less so, ARM Windows, IMO.
I would tend to agree with this. Most developers will choose Linux. However, being able to run Windows-on-ARM will help Microsoft by giving Windows developers a good platform on which to develop new software, which it desperately needs if it is to be successful. If Windows-on-ARM is successful, then more manufacturers will look seriously at developing ARM-hardware, and we all benefit.
 
Too bad. I thought the Parallels version was free for anyone but I get an activation key prompt whenever I try to start the Windows 10 VM
 
No, it really is. How many people want to run ARM based Windows? You want windows because you need to run windows applications. That almost certainly at this point means X86 applications. And Windows 10 emulating X86 inside a VM is going to miserable.

I have no idea what I’m talking about. I just assumed that there were heaps of applications that are coded for ARM Windows, but I have nothing to back that up.
 
This is the only downside of the M1 switch. We've all been spoiled over the years to be able to run Windows natively on our Macs, and now we're going back to the days of Virtual PC - boy do I remember that painful experience.
 
It will be interesting to see how this all plays out. I haven't switched to the M1, but if I did right now, I'd just put an Intel NUC or similar on the local network and log into that for when I need to do Windows development.
 
What is the point if the software cannot run an Intel x86-based OS ?
Ever consider that emulating an x86 OS on ARM is probably significantly more complicated than emulating another ARM OS, and that it probably makes the most sense to tackle ARM based OSes ASAP and then start tackling the x86 emulation challenge?

Virtualization is complicated, it's utterly unreasonable to expect products like Parallels to immediately work on a brand new platform as well as they did on the previous one.
 
No, it really is. How many people want to run ARM based Windows? You want windows because you need to run windows applications. That almost certainly at this point means X86 applications. And Windows 10 emulating X86 inside a VM is going to miserable.
Yeah, but wait til ARM Windows includes a built-in x86 emulator or translator for those binaries, which is totally in MSFT's character of providing eternal backwards compatibility.

Though, it would be out of character for them to do something that encourages purchasing Macs.
 
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