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Parallels 16 for M1 Macs Now Available Through Technical Preview Program

Well the new 64 bit windows 10 on arm version seems to crash for me. But maybe I'm just missing something ...
Edit: Changing from gaming to productivity makes a difference although it still doesn't seems to boot.
When choosing the Windows 10 Option nothing happens.
 

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hot-gril said:
Yeah, but wait til ARM Windows includes a built-in x86 emulator or translator for those binaries, which is totally in MSFT's character of providing eternal backwards compatibility.

Though, it would be out of character for them to do something that encourages purchasing Macs.
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Arm Windows-10 has always had x86(32bit) emulation. X64(a.k.a. AMD64/Intel64) emulation is already in the very-very latest Arm Windows-10 preview releases.
 
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WilburMercer said:
I sense a business opportunity for running Windows VMs in the cloud...

I'm a reverse engineer and I must have Windows 7+ VMs I can test malware on. If I can't do it on my Mac, well, I'm willing to pay a third party...
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Pretty sure that Microsoft is already looking to offer "Cloud PC" as a service to make their Azure VMs more accessible to the average consumer.
 
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Well I got the installation (64bit emulation Build) running by adding the ISO manually it is installing right now.
Edit: it booted gonna try a few things now
 
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Didn't see anyone post the link to the Windows ARM download page. You'll need to register for Windows Insider first but then you can download it. I have the Parallels beta up and running with Windows on ARM on my M1 MacBook Pro, but having a lot of issues. Haven't been able to actually open any apps once Windows loads....

Link to Windows ARM download:

 
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Darth Tulhu said:
I'd love to not have to use Windows at all. Sadly, they OWN the Enterprise market.

It would have been nice if Apple came out with an SE MacBook aimed at ito

Alas, it was not to be.
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Which Enterprise apps are Windows-only?

I come from an Enterprise software background (Oracle) and my experience is that a lot of enterprise software is multi-platform, and increasingly web-based.

@dogslobber made this point a few days ago, and but he didn't give examples.

I'm sure my experience is not universal, but I'm genuinely interested to see how many mainstream enterprise apps are limited to a single OS (particularly Windows). I'm sure there are a few, but I'd like to understand if they are niche, specialized products (e.g. machine control etc.), or what could be considered "standard" packages that are widely used in multiple industries (accounting, finance, human capital management, CRM etc.)
 
Fomalhaut said:
Which Enterprise apps are Windows-only?

I come from an Enterprise software background (Oracle) and my experience is that a lot of enterprise software is multi-platform, and increasingly web-based.

@dogslobber made this point a few days ago, and but he didn't give examples.

I'm sure my experience is not universal, but I'm genuinely interested to see how many mainstream enterprise apps are limited to a single OS (particularly Windows). I'm sure there are a few, but I'd like to understand if they are niche, specialized products (e.g. machine control etc.), or what could be considered "standard" packages that are widely used in multiple industries (accounting, finance, human capital management, CRM etc.)
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All I can contribute is that anything having to do with electrical or mechanical engineering tends to be Windows-only or at least works best in Windows.
 
For the Parallels Tech Preview, I'm only able to use the Keyboard & Mouse in the Win10ARM VM after I reinstall Parallels Tools. As soon as I reboot (which the install of Parallels Tools will prompt), I'm back to not being able to use the Keyboard & Mouse again. Lame. I'm also getting an Error when trying to update Parallels. I know there's no update available, I'm just hoping that error is due to that, and not that it just won't be able to update when there is one available.

Both issues reported in the Parallels Feedback app.
 
This is useful, for those that aren't sure, for users to run ARM 64 Linux to start porting things not available yet. Great example Atom.IO Editor or some VSCode extensions that run on ARM 64 (RPi for example) and need M1 support. So many possibilities. Windows ARM 64, not so useful for the moment. But consider this is a step by step process.
 
homohurre123 said:
Well the new 64 bit windows 10 on arm version seems to crash for me. But maybe I'm just missing something ...
Edit: Changing from gaming to productivity makes a difference although it still doesn't seems to boot.
When choosing the Windows 10 Option nothing happens.
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I was getting this same BIOS style prompt, too. I had to start over and refine the .vhdx file.
 
GreenPixel said:
You're thinking of Virtual PC which was not anywhere remotely flawless. It was slow as hell because...well...it wasn't virtualization at all. It was emulation, which isn't at all the same. Also, VirtualPC was bought by Microsoft.
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Actually it was Guest PC, and even as an emulator it ran great for me. I used it mainly for Windows games back in the day. Given the amount of horsepower in the current mini, an emulator might be a workable solution.
 
As far as I can see it runs pretty well. I just installed Epic game launcher and trying to play rocket league since Microsoft said it would run in 64 bit emulation. But the system is rather system until now (8GB Air)
 
gank41 said:
For the Parallels Tech Preview, I'm only able to use the Keyboard & Mouse in the Win10ARM VM after I reinstall Parallels Tools. As soon as I reboot (which the install of Parallels Tools will prompt), I'm back to not being able to use the Keyboard & Mouse again. Lame. I'm also getting an Error when trying to update Parallels. I know there's no update available, I'm just hoping that error is due to that, and not that it just won't be able to update when there is one available.

Both issues reported in the Parallels Feedback app.
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I don't have any of those issues. I don't have parallels tools installed. Actually right now the VM runs really great I impressed.
I'm using build 21277.1000
 
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adbe said:
No, it really is. How many people want to run ARM based Windows? You want windows because you need to run windows applications. That almost certainly at this point means X86 applications. And Windows 10 emulating X86 inside a VM is going to miserable.
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Why? Rosetta II has been described as quite tolerable (at least for not-too-demanding apps); if the virtualization is efficient enough and Microsoft's x86-on-ARM emulator for Windows (assuming they'll have one) is somewhere near as good as Apple's, it could be, if certainly not as stellar as something native, at least useable for most apps that would be usable in a VM anyway.
 
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ssavanna said:
Didn't see anyone post the link to the Windows ARM download page. You'll need to register for Windows Insider first but then you can download it. I have the Parallels beta up and running with Windows on ARM on my M1 MacBook Pro, but having a lot of issues. Haven't been able to actually open any apps once Windows loads....

Link to Windows ARM download:

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As others pointed out, downloaded the image from the link, ran the image with no issues at all on air M1 16G. I'm quite impressed with overall performance at such early stage.
 
hot-gril said:
All I can contribute is that anything having to do with electrical or mechanical engineering tends to be Windows-only or at least works best in Windows.
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Thanks, and this aligns with my understanding that specialized engineering and scientific software is more likely to be single-OS, probably mostly Windows and some Linux, with a handful of Mac-only offerings.

For example, I have some astronomical imaging and telescope control software that is Windows only. A lot of CAD and modeling software is Windows-only. Creating multi-platform software is a big overhead for a single developer or small dev team, unless they are using multi-platform frameworks from the outset.
 
rlhamil said:
Why? Rosetta II has been described as quite tolerable (at least for not-too-demanding apps); if the virtualization is efficient enough and Microsoft's x86-on-ARM emulator for Windows (assuming they'll have one) is somewhere near as good as Apple's, it could be, if certainly not as stellar as something native, at least useable for most apps that would be usable in a VM anyway.
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Rosetta 2 is for running macOS x86 apps. It won’t help you for Windows.
 
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