Uhmm, the actual iPhone ecosystem? Third party apps make the iPhone an attractive product.
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You’ll 100% take your wallet out the moment you see $9.99 in app or $6.99 on the official website
Yep .. And so will most everyone else, especially these days.
Personally…I wouldn’t. I’ll choose convenience 🤷♂️ A developer won’t get a cent out of me from anywhere outside the App Store.
My guess is the majority who download aren’t buying a paid version in-app.
Timmy will find a way to spin this or blame somebody else. Anything but take accountability.
Sadly, this reminds me of Killing the Goose that laid the golden eggs.
It'll be no different than macOS where developers have a choice to distribute via 1) Mac App Store, 2) the web, 3) side-loading.
It hasn't hurt the Mac platform in any way. If anything, the Mac platform is stronger than it's ever been
None?
Correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t they providing billing services and community messaging services and all that sort of Management stuff for rewards and engagement and metrics, etc?
I’ve never been on the creator side so I don’t know, but that was my impression
Who cares, I’m sure all that is a lot easier than creating the devices all that is accessed on.
I don't think Tim Cook lives in section 8 housing.
Yeah and how many would buy an iPhone if there were no apps on the app store?
Anyone defending Apple just comes off as an ignorant miniscule shareholder, unable to create wealth for themselves in any way but buying Apple stock.
you mean like how apple provides Maps, CloudKit data storage, push notification services, APIs, app reviews, app store hosting, and so on?
lol
So they recognize the value of doing business on the App Store, but don't want to pay for it. Alright.
Wow, it's a tsunami. It's a no brainer though, why pay Apple the cut if you don't have to? Bad for Apple, good for everyone else.
People don't remember what it was like before the App Store. Developers/Programmers had to pay a server to host their website for people to buy and download their app, they had to pay for a payment processor, they had to deal piracy and issuing updates themvelves, they had to handle customer service requests themselves — but none of that mattered if nobody discovered their app because it was mostly word of mouth. Programmers lived stereotypically broke lives, today App Store devs can be millionaires.
Good. I’m supporting creators on Patreon to give them money, not Apple. I made the mistake of a sub via the app once after the changes came in and never again. I could do without Patreon taking a cut but until every creator is on Ko-fi I’ll stick with it.
Even if this causes issues for Patreon staying on the App Store I think they’ll still do fine, the vast majority of people I know specifically choose to sub via the website over the app.
Even if this causes issues for Patreon staying on the App Store I think they’ll still do fine, the vast majority of people I know specifically choose to sub via the website over the app.
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Very valid point, the features they have are pretty solid, especially the rewards system and things like discord integration. That said they really need to revamp the chat and messaging systems, it can be frustrating to navigate to a creators page from those sections.
I will not, I don't do it now especially if subscription.
Yeah. You can live stream on patreon now aswell, directly on the platform rather than using Twitch/Youtube etc.
Obviously there is overhead in maintaining that.
Absolutely true for me too.
In fact, before there were third party apps, I did not have an iPhone. I watched the announcement, everything looked cool until Steve's idiotic "web app" nonsense. I said "Oh. It's not a smartphone. No point in this at all." and didn't buy one. I didn't buy one until the first jailbreak existed and I could put apps on it.
My first iPhone was jailbroken within an hour of coming out of the box.