Exactly. Intel is covering up their trash performance with NVIDIA.
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PCs Offer 'Better Gaming Experience Than 100% of Mac Laptops,' Intel Claims in Ongoing Anti-Apple Campaign
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Macs provide at least 100% of a better experience at everything else though...?
I mean they're not wrong but most people have PlayStations, xboxs and dedicated PC gaming rigs if they're serious gamers.
This is why I’ve had a pc specifically for gaming only, since 2006.
The previous decade I was PC only for everything, but that white C2D MacBook turned my head 😅
The previous decade I was PC only for everything, but that white C2D MacBook turned my head 😅
they are also comparing a 9th gen chip intel chip to an 11th gen intel chip, and a AMD M5600 GPU to a nVidia 3060 GPU. consider that in 3 generations, intel needs an insanely powerful GPU just to claim a 30% increase over their competitor; whom BTW, is also running in a non-standard operating system. Anyone who doesn’t see desperation in this ad, has chosen not to.
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Intel may sing a different tune if those rumours of an Apple gaming console or setup ever come to fruition.
So basically, their only argument is games? I'm not sure who they're aiming this campaign at, because most PC gamers have already invested in one platform.
I think you highlighted the key weakness in Intel's argument: "our CPUs are so good when you pair them with someone else's GPUs..."
More people would purchase a Mac if it had a better gaming experience. Those are lost sales. I mean Apple is still making billions of dollars of profit each quarter, but its ecosystem could use a refresh. What if I want to use the Mac for creative work but I also want to game as well. Would be nice to have one system, a Mac, to do both.
Apple could bury the hatchet with nvidia, and give its consumers choice, whether AMD or Nvidia for good gaming graphics performance. But we know they’re not going to do that.
Guess Apple must have told Intel it’s not going to move any foundry business to them.
Serious question: is this because of the CPU? What I mean is, suppose all games would be available on both macOS and Windows. Would a $800 gaming PC perform better than a Mac mini, and would a $1000 gaming laptop perform better than a MacBook Air?
Why are we still going over this same argument we've been having for the past 40 years? Yes, if you want to play games, get a game machine...which is the PC. We know that. We've always known that. Yes, you can play some games on the Mac...but it's not a game machine. If you play the games that are on Apple Arcade, hey, it's great for that. But you're not going to get the latest "graphics-so-good-you-have-fight-bitcoin-miners-for-a-decent-graphics-card-to-play-it-above-30fps" AAA titles.
Is the Mac market that important to Intel? Or are they hoping to stem the flow away from other platforms? Isn't AMD more a threat to them?
Is the Mac market that important to Intel? Or are they hoping to stem the flow away from other platforms? Isn't AMD more a threat to them?
Really this will all be a moot point when (if) Microsoft releases a newer ARM-based Windows OS optimized for Apple Silicon. A major selling point for Windows to Mac users was that you didn't have to rely on virtualization to run Microsoft's software since prior Macs shared the Intel core, so it must not be lost on them that they're selling fewer Windows licenses given Macs can't run it natively anymore with the advent of the M1 chip. Major gaming companies like Blizzard just aren't interested in developing for Mac, and they actively prevent gamers from playing on a virtualized platform given the concerns over hacking/cheating. I would absolutely love to see Intel's response if the last leg they had to stand on against Apple was pulled out from under them by a robust Windows alternative customized for the newer Mac hardware.
So a full size PC desktop with a dedicated graphics card, that alone is (currently) more expensive than an entire M1 MBP fared better in selected tests against a Mac laptop with a mobile graphics card
Huh, who would've thought. Some geniuses over in intel these days.
How is it a weakness when historically intel has been a cpu manufacturer unlike Apple’s vertically integrated strategy in developing the cpu gpu and operating system. It’s just a difference in philosophy. The pc ecosystem is much more open than the Mac. For gamers, windows is the way to go. I personally hate windows, but if I want to game, it’s really the only game in town unfortunately. That’s a key weakness of the Mac and intel is highlighting that.
Besides, intel tiger lake h cpus now have the gaming crown above amd mobile Ryzen 5000, and alder lake might add an additional 20 percent on top of that. Intel is slowly coming back…
You do realize that the 11400H is a mobile part right ?
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But intel comparing tiger lake against its older generation is kinda comical. Of course tiger lake is faster. It should be as it’s a new generation.
It's becoming more and more clear that Intel is very threatened by Apple's move to their own processors. They knew it was coming but the company was caught off guard by how good the processors are.
Once again Intel makes statements that may be factually correct (I don't know or care, since I don't game) but that have nothing to do with Intel and everything to do with Microsoft and the companies that make the GPUs that gamers actually use.
Desperation doesn't even cover it.
Desperation doesn't even cover it.
Well, you do realize that World of Warcraft was ported over to run natively on M1 Macs. But I guess you mean Overwatch.
I mean, their point is true: MacBooks are not great computers for gaming. But this must be the most ridiculous marketing effort Intel ever made. They selected a single laptop with a 9th generation Intel processor and told everyone it's not as good as another hand-selected laptop with an 11th generation Intel processor. I'm sure Apple-hating Redditors will quote this for an eternity, but it's a ridiculous comparison.
Intel will have a seriously difficult time to keep up this kind of marketing once the next Apple processors hits the market. The main downside of the M1 compared to Intel and AMD processors is the limited core count, and the next iteration of the M-processors are rumoured to have a lot more.
Intel will have a seriously difficult time to keep up this kind of marketing once the next Apple processors hits the market. The main downside of the M1 compared to Intel and AMD processors is the limited core count, and the next iteration of the M-processors are rumoured to have a lot more.
Intel miss the point: No one buys a Mac for gaming, they buy a Mac for their main everyday computer.
People buy a PS5 or XBox for gaming, or if they are really into gaming, a gaming PC.
People buy a PS5 or XBox for gaming, or if they are really into gaming, a gaming PC.
I would guess that of all intel Macs most have no GPU (yeah that intel thing doesn't count) at all. Even those that have are usually quite poor.
So it isn't that great of a surprise that Mac gaming never took off. Even if you go around Windows most Macs are just too weak to run games.
With the M series Apple may not (currently...) be aiming for the stars but what they have accomplished is ensuring a pretty decent baseline in a sort of console way. In time I believe game developers will take notice.
So it isn't that great of a surprise that Mac gaming never took off. Even if you go around Windows most Macs are just too weak to run games.
With the M series Apple may not (currently...) be aiming for the stars but what they have accomplished is ensuring a pretty decent baseline in a sort of console way. In time I believe game developers will take notice.