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PCs Offer 'Better Gaming Experience Than 100% of Mac Laptops,' Intel Claims in Ongoing Anti-Apple Campaign

Problem with ads like this is it makes Intel look extremely stupid to those who know computer tech and that they compared gaming performance between a physical system and a type 2 virtualized operating system.

Of course a type 2 hypervisor is going to have performance reduction.

then they compare an older gen Intel with a newer gen in a MacBook with a lesser performing graphics card. Sorry but the 3xxx series wasn’t around during the 6th gen CPUs

Sorry Intel, but stop comparing apples to oranges.

no one buys a Mac for gaming either. You’re marketing team is apparently behind the times as are your chips.
 
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Windows will eventually also move to ARM - has to. Intel will have to start making licensed ARM chips also. The new king is in town. Fast and cool is the future.
 
This really looks like a comparison of AMD to NVIDIA. Why didn’t they even compare Apple Silicon.

I suspect the Pro Apple Silicon machines later this year are going to make this comparison look silly.
 
I like how they compared it to a Mac also running an intel chip therefore it really just says a 5600m is far worse than an rtx3060 which I don't think surprised anyone
 
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are they suggesting that a fully fledged desktop class GPU can outperform a mobile GPU in graphics intensive tasks?
and you don't even need top notch flagship intel CPUs to do this?
how shocking.
 
So weird Intel would feel the need to lie even though this is a perfectly valid point. War Thunder does have a Mac version (inferior as it may be, both performance and quality wise). M1 users can play the iOS version of Genshin Impact using a janky workaround. I only did a spot check for a few of the other titles, but for those Intel's assertion seems to hold. There are many other games Intel could have used instead of War Thunder and Genshin Impact that wouldn't have been a lie.
 
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ksgant said:
Well, you do realize that World of Warcraft was ported over to run natively on M1 Macs. But I guess you mean Overwatch.
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Yep ha I meant Overwatch specifically, which is the outlier as that goes, but it's notable they can port to Switch but not be bothered with Mac for *just* the case of Overwatch, which is a lot more intensive computationally than say WoW or Hearthstone. They've said they aren't planning on doing so for OW2 either and it grinds my gears, but it wouldn't be an issue if there were a Windows for M1 Macs.
 
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Also breaking news: trucks are better than Ferrari's for carrying cargo, it's easier to walk downhill than uphill, and water is good for you. I mean, this kind of marketing is just embarrassing for Intel; because they're making such a song-and-dance about something that is pretty much irrelevant to Mac users, all it does is send the message to Mac users that Apple chips are better than Intel for everything that is relevant.
 
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So, we have a system with a dedicated graphics chip and Windows as OS.
And a system without discrete graphics and without Windows as OS.

We compare their ability to run games and their performance doing so. Turns out, the first one wins. So far, nothing special or unexpected.

It's just not clear what Intel's got to do with the fact the first system won.
 
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The phrase “no **i* Sherlock” springs to mind.

So does the phrase “and?”. Macs aren‘t for games, never have been, even with Intel chips. Everybody who’s into games know this. I don’t know who Intel expects to win over with this argument.
 
At the same time, Intel is nothing without GPU makers when it comes to gaming, so it really should not forget Nvidia and AMD when making such stupid claims.
 
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The phrase “no **i* Sherlock” springs to mind.

So does the phrase “and?”. Macs aren‘t for games, never have been, even with Intel chips. Everybody who’s into games know this. I don’t know who Intel expects to win over with this argument.
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People who don't know what they are talking about. Simple...
 
Anyone looking to buy macs won’t really care much about gaming. Pretty ineffective ads from intel.
 
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As I understand Apple now has full control over drivers, so it is they who hold back AMD drivers and performance as a result. However it seems a moot point as Apple Silicon Macs do not have AMD GPU's?
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Yes


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But plenty of us Mac users like to play games on our computers and find ways to do so.
You do have to jump through hoops though, Apple certainly do not make it easy to do. And with Macs having such a small global percentage of the PC market, game developers aren't going to support the platform in their masses. Bootcamp made it an easier process though.
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Apple was never really into gaming. They try with Apple Arcade. Bust most "serious gamers" (what a dumb expression) care more about AAA games. Which are rare on macOS if they exist at all.

Bootcamp didn't made it better as Apple's cooling, especially on MacBooks, is a bad joke (Thinness over everything else).
I mean: Most macbooks even throttle heavily under non-gaming workload. Just that in gaming it becomes much more obvious if your FPS goes south.
This has two reasons: a) Intel's hot af chips that eat more power than the PSU could supply and b) Apple who gimped the cooling and puts in a microscopic heatsink to shave off another micrometer of the machine's thickness.

Tbh: I also enjoy playing video games on a PC. But gaming on a laptop is a joke anyway. Even those thick, chunky gaming laptops cannot compare with a desktop PC. And they're heavy and have too low battery time to be useful away from a power outlet.


In the end: I have no idea what Intel is talking about. They're trying to make a point, but they don't speak for Intel but more for other companies (MS, Nvidia, AMD).
 
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MacRumors said:


While announcing its latest chips yesterday, Intel launched another aggressive public attack on Mac devices, focusing on the experience of gaming (via PC Gamer).



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Intel further evidenced its claims with a chart showing an Intel-based 16-inch MacBook Pro, using a Core i9 9980HK processor with a AMD Radeon Pro 5600M, compared to a PC with a Core i5 11400H processor with a GeForce RTX 3060. The Intel-branded PC did better in each of the company's selected tests. This led to the claim that Intel-based PCs offer a "better gaming experience than 100% of Mac laptops."

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Am I the only one who sees this graph as one of the best advertisements for Apple Silicon not put out by Apple? I mean Intel has stacked the deck as much as possible in their own favor (even using their own 18+ month old chipset!) and the average performance difference is 30%? All this really says is "with our latest and greatest, running the most optimized applications available, we've only managed an average of a 30% increase in two years." Kinda sad when you read between the lines.
 
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My favorite game was Moria, back in the VAX/VMS days, and then onto PeeCees, and then on Macs, and then Diablo.

I don't game on a mac anymore because the Diablo III I have doesn't run on my mac because it's not 64-bit. So 'is Apple stopping me from gaming on my mac'? No, it's Blizzard! I've heard of a 'new mac version' of Diablo, but can't seem to find anything other than 'it's coming'. It doesn't seem to be even breathing hard, does it?

EDIT: I've been looking for a MicroVAX III in the BA123 World Box, with a TK50 tape drive to load Moria on, and continue my history of wasting hours playing that engrossing game.
 
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