Funny... when you remove Nvidia and AMD from the equation, the integrated graphics from the M1 tap dance around Intel's garbage offering. And that's with the games being converted with Rosetta.
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It’s the cpu and gpu both work together to render the scene on screen. A fast gpu paired with a slow cpu will perform worse than if it was paired with a faster cpu, depending on the resolution of the screen.
Lower resolutions like 1080p are more cpu bound (ie the cpu tends to be the limited of performance), whereas higher resolutions like 4K are more gpu bound.
Mac Gamer says: "I am after a Gaming Computer"
Salesman: "You have any idea of what you are after"
Mac Gamer: "Money is no issue. When I think Gaming - I think Apple..."
Brilliant humor / Mac Gamer - Bored Ep5 | Viva La Dirt League (VLDL) - YouTube
Salesman: "You have any idea of what you are after"
Mac Gamer: "Money is no issue. When I think Gaming - I think Apple..."
Brilliant humor / Mac Gamer - Bored Ep5 | Viva La Dirt League (VLDL) - YouTube
When I initially saw this post, I instantly remembered the gag of Viva La Dirt League: "Who uses Mac for gaming?" Lol
I don't think anyone is picking a Mac over a Windows based PC because they are gaming.
'Gaming'.... when did that become a thing? Yes, I know, multi-billion dollar industry blah blah blah (and source of dismal movies). It's playing! You play games, not 'game' them. If you drive a car, you're driving, not 'car-ing'. If you bake a cake, that's baking, not 'caking'. If you bake a cake, you're a baker, not a caker. And so on. Noun as verb - it's ghastly!
I suspect that using 'gaming' is an attempt to make it seem more serious than it actually is, which is playing. People who play games are players, because they are playing.
Play (verb)
"Engage in activity for enjoyment and recreation rather than a serious or practical purpose".
"Engage in (a game or activity) for enjoyment."
"Amuse oneself by engaging in imaginative pretence."
If we stopped this gaming and gamers nonsense and used the proper word, it suddenly loses all the pseudo-gravitas and becomes what it is - playing!
In other shock news, I won't be dumping Macs so I can play at soldiers or superheroes (I gave that up when I was about 8 as I recall).
Intel, if that's the best you've got and what your business model is now based on, then you must be seriously worried. Apple silicon is only going to get better and better - that's their problem. Not what it's like now, but in 2-3 years time. Perhaps Intel will make a better Buggy Whip!
I suspect that using 'gaming' is an attempt to make it seem more serious than it actually is, which is playing. People who play games are players, because they are playing.
Play (verb)
"Engage in activity for enjoyment and recreation rather than a serious or practical purpose".
"Engage in (a game or activity) for enjoyment."
"Amuse oneself by engaging in imaginative pretence."
If we stopped this gaming and gamers nonsense and used the proper word, it suddenly loses all the pseudo-gravitas and becomes what it is - playing!
In other shock news, I won't be dumping Macs so I can play at soldiers or superheroes (I gave that up when I was about 8 as I recall).
Intel, if that's the best you've got and what your business model is now based on, then you must be seriously worried. Apple silicon is only going to get better and better - that's their problem. Not what it's like now, but in 2-3 years time. Perhaps Intel will make a better Buggy Whip!
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So they built a Hackintosh (the "Intel Branded System")? Because they're comparing a 16" MBP to a PC that is running BootCamp and macOS. Unless I am missing something.
Trucks are better at hauling stuff compared to cars. Does that make trucks better overall? Nah.
In this case Intel's argument is essentially true, although it's more to do with the graphics cards and supported titles than the Intel CPU. Mac's simply cannot compete with a PC when it comes to gaming and I wouldn't even consider one to game on. A dedicated graphics card stomps on the M1, it just can't compare. If I look at my Steam library I have 936 games, of those only 166 are compatible with my Mac. It gets worse in that Apple cut all support for 32-bit programs so I also have a handful of Mac games I can't play because MacOS has no backward compatibility, whereas Windows has Compatibility Mode to run old programs and I can still play games from 26 years ago. I've lost count how many games on my iPad and iPhone I can no longer download or play because Apple broke them with their yearly OS updates and it's not financially viable for the developers to make them compatible with the current level of code.
It said PC in the article. Perhaps one of their Canyon series or Laptop and eGPU?You do realize that the 11400H is a mobile part right ?
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But intel comparing tiger lake against its older generation is kinda comical. Of course tiger lake is faster. It should be as it’s a new generation.
Either way, both are way up there in price and the Graphics Card is doing the grunt work.
Good thing Apple isn’t claiming to be the best for gaming...intel sounds like a heartbroken ex girl
This is like Mercedes saying that Ferrari ‘s cars aren’t any good for off-road use.
I’m betting Apple PR appreciated that he phrased this per Apple’s expensive branding effort.
Well, Apple constantly mentions all the great GPU processing power for gaming , but save for mobile-caliber games, they have nothing to show for it.
My gaming PC just gathers dust in the corner of my study while I play Cities Skylines, 7 days to die, 2 Point Hospital , Planet Coaster , Rollercoaster Tycoon 2, Papers Please, Sim Airport and many other games on either my M1 MacBook Pro or 16" i9 MacBook Pro. Anything else gaming I just use my PS4 , I just don't want to deal with Windows on my gaming PC.
Last time I booted up my gaming PC to play a Windows only game with my mates online it somehow lost the WiFi drivers and I had to re-install them before I could even load Steam, just what I wanted, messing around looking for my driver discs when I just wanted to play. When we play online as a group we use Discord on our iPads/iPhones with AirPods because Microphones just never seem to work right for any of us on Windows, and the newer 'Settings' instead of Control Panel testes my patients to the limit, its infuriating to use.
Gaming for me is suppose to be something to relax and enjoy... that conflicts with a using Windows.
It's more the lack of discrete graphics than it is raw CPU power. The M1 blows Intel out of the water on Mac. AMD's Ryzen blows Intel out of the water on PC. It's over Intel, go home.
As I understand Apple now has full control over drivers, so it is they who hold back AMD drivers and performance as a result. However it seems a moot point as Apple Silicon Macs do not have AMD GPU's?
But plenty of us Mac users like to play games on our computers and find ways to do so.
You do have to jump through hoops though, Apple certainly do not make it easy to do. And with Macs having such a small global percentage of the PC market, game developers aren't going to support the platform in their masses. Bootcamp made it an easier process though.
But plenty of us Mac users like to play games on our computers and find ways to do so.
You do have to jump through hoops though, Apple certainly do not make it easy to do. And with Macs having such a small global percentage of the PC market, game developers aren't going to support the platform in their masses. Bootcamp made it an easier process though.
There is a certain amount of irony that advertisement to counter Apple Silicon features a comparison to an intel MacBook Pro.
Not to mention it's a comparison which is less to do with the CPU and more to do with the GPU in the product. They're comparing a Radeon Pro 5600 to one of the latest RTX cards from nVidia as far as I know. And Apple have never really taken Mac gaming seriously enough to put the latest and greatest GPUs in their machines. From what I've heard they can barely be bothered to write the drivers needed to install the newest AMD cards in the Mac Pro.
I don't think Apple really cares about Mac Gaming beyond allowing iOS developers to make their games available on the Mac.
Not to mention it's a comparison which is less to do with the CPU and more to do with the GPU in the product. They're comparing a Radeon Pro 5600 to one of the latest RTX cards from nVidia as far as I know. And Apple have never really taken Mac gaming seriously enough to put the latest and greatest GPUs in their machines. From what I've heard they can barely be bothered to write the drivers needed to install the newest AMD cards in the Mac Pro.
I don't think Apple really cares about Mac Gaming beyond allowing iOS developers to make their games available on the Mac.
Waiting for Intel to show photoshop speed comparisons to the M1. Oh wait… never mind. 
They already are of the M1.
The previous campaign mentioned being able to export PowerPoint a few seconds faster.