What on earth are you talking about?
Goto your major banks in your country, goto your mining corporations, goto educational infrastructure- guess what OS their running?
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Goto your major banks in your country, goto your mining corporations, goto educational infrastructure- guess what OS their running?
problems occur at any OS server or desktop or notebook.
Because iPhones can stand alone as your all-purpose computing device. They are the centre of your digital life. They have all your photos and videos and other details.
The mac, therefore, does not have that role any more and the OS developers have understood that, but the hardware developers have not. They keep making hardware suited for that kind of user, but that kind of user isn't buying macs. They also aren't buying PC's, which is why PC sales have slumped for a while.
They keep developing the mac as if it's a hub for your digital life when in fact people use it as a workhorse. Compiling code including things like LaTeX for reports, doing various projects like audio and video editing, composing music etc., and gaming mainly, because a mobile device cannot do it effectively or maybe even at all.
The requirements for how much processing power you need for this depends on the application and the intensity with which it is used, but for games the game developer sets how much computing is needed, and almost no mac can keep up. Even the strongest mac laptop can barely keep up with a $400 PS4 Pro.
The PC allows you to do all that too as well as game, so given that why would you get a mac if you're a gamer? Maybe you prefer mac, but so what? That's how I feel.
If you don't game there is no compromise anyway and you can pick what you like, but many people both game and create, which is what Intel points out.
The irony of Intel's statement is that the reason their argument is correct has nothing to do with Intel. Intel is a dead weight in that regard. It's because of NVIDIA and Microsoft mainly.
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My post included a hypothetical Mac that doesn’t exist in case it wasn’t clear. Even if Apple created an M-based Mac with enough CPU and GPU power to beat the current top of the line at the time, PC gamers are always going to claim their build is better, faster, cheaper if it there were quantifiable numbers that proved otherwise. It just the nature of the beast, uh, that set of users.
My point is that Apple chasing that market of users as some here keep suggesting is a complete waste of time and money because the hardcore gaming market made up its mind years ago.
Enjoy your hack while it lasts, their days are numbered.
Maybe so, but I can tell you that I, for one, would lose my mind and buy a mac INSTANTLY if it could compete with my gaming devices on performance. I love the mac, I just don't like the configs due to the graphics only.
And since I frequent the PC gaming community I can also tell you that they were super excited about the M1.
They think it's a great step up from Intel and hope Intel gets their bleep together. But as long as the graphics aren't there, the gamers aren't there. It's as simple as that.
But it isn't a waste of time or money to compare the hardware to consoles? Or in making the Metal API better for console style gaming? (Which we all agree is different than mobile gaming).
This. I've been trashing Apple for the last 9 years since they started soldering everything together in their laptops. But the M1 chip in the new laptops has me excited for the first time in my life to get a new laptop. I can't wait to get one (as long as it's got all the missing ports that have been rumored to come back).Maybe so, but I can tell you that I, for one, would lose my mind and buy a mac INSTANTLY if it could compete with my gaming devices on performance. I love the mac, I just don't like the configs due to the graphics only.
And since I frequent the PC gaming community I can also tell you that they were super excited about the M1.
I say that as a PC gamer and Hackintosh owner. I'd spend the money on an Apple desktop, if it was worth it.
I agree we'll see more mobile games on ARM Mac computers. Sure. People who buy PCs for gaming aren't looking for mobile games, which is the target market Intel are referring to.
AppleTV won't be powerful enough to accommodate AAA games, for a long time anyway. The current generation certainly isn't. For starters, the max storage space of 64GB is way too small to store multiple games. No one wants to wait for downloads to finish before playing their next AAA game.
Intel and especially AMD aren't going to stay still waiting for ARM to catch up. Nvidia and AMD are going to continue to push out more powerful GPUs, which Apple will find hard to complete against.
That's because they can get better, faster, cheaper. And still can. This isn't some kind of conspiracy or fanboyism, everyone knows PC hardware is better.
But an even bigger problem with Apple is that they DO NOT allow you to upgrade any parts. Gamers WILL want to upgrade their GPUs over the years. I've swapped mine in my hackintosh numerous times; GTX 960 > 980 > 1080 > 5700 XT.
It’s possible, we ARE talking about a Playstation 4 game. They’re nice, but not all THAT nice
And, Uncharted 4 exclusivity would just mean far fewer people playing it. No one is going to buy a Mac or iPad for Uncharted 4. There are far cheaper ways to accomplish the same thing. Even if we’re talking about a hypothetical Uncharted 5… or ANY game, really, I can’t see a Mac or iPad purchase hinging on any game that is best played with a controller or a keyboard and mouse.
Honestly, who is the target audience for this campaign?
The "Apple MasterRace Gaming Community" is def. not large enough for this campaign to make any sense.
It's best case a handful of billionaires who bought a decked out MacPro just because "Why not, its expensive?".
"Omg, Apple Arcade looks amazing in 6K". *Laughs in billionaire*
Who else?
The "Apple MasterRace Gaming Community" is def. not large enough for this campaign to make any sense.
It's best case a handful of billionaires who bought a decked out MacPro just because "Why not, its expensive?".
"Omg, Apple Arcade looks amazing in 6K". *Laughs in billionaire*
Who else?
No, I meant that as regular users. Not just gamers. For example, my girlfriend has the newest iPhone. She's got the Apple Watch too. But still wants to use Windows.
I just don't get why people are so hesitant to give the Macs a go when they've been so invested into the iOS ecosystem. I mean, they clearly trust Apple's mobile devices to be great... so what is the reason to NOT want to try Mac OS?
Then that's a ridiculous statement. How do you figure it would cost thousands of dollars to maintain a PC? It might cost you that much if you get the absolute highest specs, going beyond consumer grade. But to MAINTAIN?And? Where is the part where you show me that I was exaggerating? I mean....your own price list comes out to over two thousand dollars. And if you will reread what I said, I didn't even say "thousands" to build a high-end PC. I said thousands to "maintain". That is taking into account upgrades over the years as well.
At no point did I make an argument that Macs will give you more for your money in hardware than a self-built PC.
HOW?
Sure, "theoretically". "theoretically", Intel Mac could have been on par with Windows, *if* Apple had shipped decent GPUs.... *if* Macs had better heat management, blah blah blah.
With ARM Based Macs, *ifs*"....
It's all a load of "what ifs"....
I suspect ARM based Macs will be great for mobile games, the same games we see on iPads, but not much else, because game developers by in-large, won't bother to cater for a small user base.
Windows / ARM combo will gain more traction, for sure. However, you'd still need to dual boot for best performance and hope that Apple will actually supports booting into Windows.
They’re practically saying that anything Mac can do, Windows PC does it better... and Windows can do way more than the Mac can only dream of doing. Mac’s target audience is non-tech savy users like Twitter and Reddit mods.
Pfft. Could gaming is the future. You can totally play PUBG on a Mac today via stadia, at 4k60 for any recent Mac (and some pretty old ones).
Good grief. Go back and read my posts again. I was referencing the niche side of high-end PC gaming that are constantly upgrading to "maintain a PC at high rez and high frame rates".
My words:
It is pretty damn clear what I'm talking about there and at no point is that making a statement that it costs "thousands of dollars to maintain a PC", as in any/every PC. The words "not mainstream" should have clued you in.
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More to the point Elverils has basically said if folks don't buy the games they cannot afford to do the ports (in the MrMacRight video for DOS2 for iPad).
i wish them the absolute best of luck with such an endeavour. it would be great if someone else could do it, but mario & co are apparently timeless. outside of breath of the wild, nintendo hasnt really made anything new or groundbreaking in eons.
somehow the same bs keeps dogpiling cash for them in spite of being copy paste of everything that came before it. my favorite games to play on switch generally arent nintendo titles.
That’s true, but not surprising. Apple is never gunning for the entire computing market. They’re looking for a broad enough chunk that will satisfy a good swath, picking up new customers while losing old ones yearly, such that they can turn a profit and keep making the products those newer customers want.Seems that you don't want my son as a computer customer
They don’t want FCP7 users as customers, they don’t want those that need 32 bit apps as customers, they don’t want those that need Intel compatibility as customers, etc. As long as half the folks buying a new Mac every year have never used a Mac before, this strategy will continue to work. If they ever get back to the point where making current customers happy is a priority over everything else, that’s when the Mac’s gonna be on it’s way out.
Yeah, just like CPU’s, today’s mid/low range GPU’s are plenty powerful enough for a good gaming experience. Very high end systems exist, but the returns start diminishing asymptotically.
Soooo... intel compares a PC with a newer Intel processor to a Mac with....an older Intel processor? (plus of course the different nVidia / AMD setups).
If they are trying to say something about the M1 series of chips... why use a Mac with one of their own chips? Do they really think people are that stupid?
If they are trying to say something about the M1 series of chips... why use a Mac with one of their own chips? Do they really think people are that stupid?
We’ll, yeah, you SHOULD be. But, for every game anyone would want to see, SOME developer’s gotta do the work to make it for macOS (Apple produces very few games for their platforms). And, even though your average iPhone made within the last few years… that’s millions of devices… is more powerful than the Switch, you’ll still see more games on Switch than on iOS, iPadOS or macOS because developers feel it’s worth developing for. Apple could release a system with graphics and sounds that beats the top of the PC market by 10 times. BUT, if most developers decide that developing for that system is not worth the money, you’re not going to see any more games than you do today. It’s not about what performance Apple can bring, it’s about what value the developers perceive.
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Why exactly does Apple use AMD graphic cards instead of NVIDIA?
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