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An iPod Shuffle with built in GPS sounds like a great idea, but ugh, why couldn't they include at least 1GB of storage? I don't want or need a Spotify account, nor do I want to have to have another SIM-required device.

It has 4GB of storage.
 
It does everything that 95% of people would want a wearable to do.

Always-on screen

~ week-long battery life

Built in gps

Not tethered to a phone

Notifications from your phone

Water proof rated to 30 m

Health sensors

Inexpensive price

Music player

And more. So the better question is - what does the AppleWatch do beyond what the pebble does that people want? Super especially when you consider the huge negatives of AW being much more expensive and having much much shorter battery life.

2 things I rate more than that - 1. The most important thing for anything that going on my wrist, because bear in mind lots of people spent up to £10,000 for this reason alone, the Apple Watch looks good. 2. Apple Pay.
 
It does everything that 95% of people would want a wearable to do.

Always-on screen

~ week-long battery life

Built in gps

Not tethered to a phone

Notifications from your phone

Water proof rated to 30 m

Health sensors

Inexpensive price

Music player

And more. So the better question is - what does the AppleWatch do beyond what the pebble does that people want? Super especially when you consider the huge negatives of AW being much more expensive and having much much shorter battery life.

Apple kinda cracked the code of wearables IMHO. They're stuff to wear, not just gadgets. The "service" they provide you (and make you pay a lot, of course) is heavy marketing and cool design that create a huge hype, so you'll feel comfortable wearing it and not a nerd. Same exact thing for Beats, it's something other people recognize and you feel cool wearing (because you probably don't care about sound and you're even happy to pay more for crappy stuff). Not saying it's fair or morally right but it works, this is how people are made and this market works in my opinion.
 
Time was fugly and a flop. Time 2 looks decent and should have been there last year. Good prices.
 
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This company is abusing Kickstarter and they should be banned from all crowdfunding sites.

Look, the first Pebble was a concept project that the creators wanted to see get to market and so they used Kickstarter to drive funding to produce the first watch.

After that, the use of Kickstarter for new models is a complete abuse of this service. This company has MADE MONEY off of selling their first generation of product, and even if it was very little there is no reason for this company to not get the traditional venture capital which should be far easier considering they have established a brand, product and reputation.

However, continuously going back to Kickstarter to fund new models is a cash grab and this company is preying off vapid idealists that will toss a few bucks here and there without thinking twice about what they are doing; at this stage of the game you cannot tell me that Pebble has not made enough capital profit to start developing a new product without pandering for spare change.

The reality is that Pebble is using Kickstarter as their own private pre-sales site which protects them from risk. If Pebble were to pre-sell their watch on their own website they would be held accountable if there are delays in development OR if they stop developing the model for whatever reason. By "selling" through kickstarter, Pebble does not assume any responsibility for not delivering the product, Pebble could walk away from the project if they decide to.

Pebble can set up their own website and pre-sales and fund their future development now on their own. They do no need the crutch of crowdfunding to continue operations, and I think clearly Kickstarter is just as much as fault for this abuse of crowdsourcing because Kickstarter gets a "kick back" of every dollar contributed.
I thought the same the first time they pulled this off. Don't like pebbles and would never support this cheapskate company who risk people's money instead of their own. Kickstarter doesn't care, they just want money. Pathetic
 
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Each to their own. To me it looks like a squashed iPhone with truly terrible UI.
Now the Pebble might not be the most attractive thing on the planet. But it's not making itself out to be.
It's a cheap functional watch. Job done.

Bingo! And that's exactly why Apple lost focus overloading their Watch with too many features and apps. Not very wise. It's NOT supposed to compete with the phone or act like one.
 
I thought the same the first time they pulled this off. Don't like pebbles and would never support this cheapskate company who risk people's money instead of their own. Kickstarter doesn't care, they just want money. Pathetic

I know right!
Appears a lot of people - myself included - would also like the Pebble Time 2!
 
Time2 looks neat. I won't get rid of my Apple watch, but I'm throughout impressed by what Pebble has done with color Epaper. I've never seen E-paper with a fast enough refresh rate to do animations until I saw the original Time.
Keep in mind, "e-paper" is not the same thing as "e-ink". Kindles use "e-ink", and to the best of my knowledge, nobody has made that in color at production scale.

As far as I can tell, "e-paper" is just a type of transflective (works with a backlight or with ambient light) display. Everyone on this site has experience with transmissive displays. They're the type used for almost every computer. Most phones use transmissive displays, while some use emissive (OLED displays emit light from the pixel rather than passing light from a backlight panel; CRTs are also emissive displays). The most common place most of us have probably seen a reflective display is Nintendo's GameBoy. There were a few where they experimented with internal lights, but almost every model from the original up through the Advance used a reflective display with no internal light.

Transflective displays tend to be a bit compromised. As with the Pebble's display, colors are vibrant, but you don't usually get many of them. Apple's Newton line used transflective displays. The 2000/2100 actually had a lot of neat technologies in it that we now take for granted. At idle, mine consumed around 60 mA running the display and everything.
 
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Help me here. Were you trying to be funny?

People like this poster are self conscious fools who have a NEED to look good in order to get laid when the reality is that it's NOT what they wear or have but how they carry themselves.

Same case with those who buy Starbucks coffee just to look " cool " due to the premium service. They need to over themselves. You can't premium-fy computers which is Apple's biggest mistake. Selling an experience is really selling theatrical BS. Starbucks is guilty of that. I should know. I used to work for them.
 
10 days battery life, much more like it! I'd much rather have a colour e-ink display and 10 hours battery life than a full colour display like an Apple Watch that lasts less than a day most of the time if you actually use it! A combo of the Pebble and Apple Watch would be perfect.
Out of curiosity, what do you mean by "actually use it"? I check the time, set timers, check calendar, read texts (at least 30/day), and more, and always get 2 full days of life. (Source: Apple Watch 42mm.)
 
It does everything that 95% of people would want a wearable to do.

Always-on screen

~ week-long battery life

Built in gps

Not tethered to a phone

Notifications from your phone

Water proof rated to 30 m

Health sensors

Inexpensive price

Music player

And more. So the better question is - what does the AppleWatch do beyond what the pebble does that people want? Super especially when you consider the huge negatives of AW being much more expensive and having much much shorter battery life.
You've got a point there. Apart from material and construction quality AW is currently a bad value for money proposition.
 
It does everything that 95% of people would want a wearable to do.

Always-on screen

~ week-long battery life

Built in gps

Not tethered to a phone

Notifications from your phone

Water proof rated to 30 m

Health sensors

Inexpensive price

Music player

And more. So the better question is - what does the AppleWatch do beyond what the pebble does that people want? Super especially when you consider the huge negatives of AW being much more expensive and having much much shorter battery life.

The built in GPS. Are you referencing the Pebble Core? I didn't see it listed as a feature of one of the two watches. It would be great if the watches had it, but I fear it'll greatly affect battery life.
 
People like this poster are self conscious fools who have a NEED to look good in order to get laid when the reality is that it's NOT what they wear or have but how they carry themselves.

Same case with those who buy Starbucks coffee just to look " cool " due to the premium service. They need to over themselves. You can't premium-fy computers which is Apple's biggest mistake. Selling an experience is really selling theatrical BS. Starbucks is guilty of that. I should know. I used to work for them.
I am sorry buddy...but you called me out when I was trying to do the same with the guy who made the original comment. Let's set the record straight. what you said is exactly what I believe.
 
It does everything that 95% of people would want a wearable to do.

Always-on screen

~ week-long battery life

Built in gps

Not tethered to a phone

Notifications from your phone

Water proof rated to 30 m

Health sensors

Inexpensive price

Music player

And more. So the better question is - what does the AppleWatch do beyond what the pebble does that people want? Super especially when you consider the huge negatives of AW being much more expensive and having much much shorter battery life.
The answer to this probably lies in the user experience. Some things can't be compared on paper. There's a lot of polish in the Apple Watch experience that most people would walk away from saying, "yeah, the Apple Watch is nicer." Also, Apple excels at having a great ecosystem, so by nature, the experience will be smoother with an Apple Watch vs. Pebble.

Some people might not care about that. But matching the Apple Watch's features are only half the battle. Implementation is the other half.

There are a couple things that can be compared directly though... like the much higher-quality screen, configurability, and Siri. One could also argue that the Apple Watch looks a lot nicer too as opposed to looking geeky. That's a matter of opinion, of course... but the point is that there are plenty of reasons why someone would consider the Apple Watch well worth the money.
 
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It does everything that 95% of people would want a wearable to do.

Always-on screen

~ week-long battery life

Built in gps

Not tethered to a phone

Notifications from your phone

Water proof rated to 30 m

Health sensors

Inexpensive price

Music player

And more. So the better question is - what does the AppleWatch do beyond what the pebble does that people want? Super especially when you consider the huge negatives of AW being much more expensive and having much much shorter battery life.


Agreed with most of your itemized list. However, behind the scenes, Pebble struggles with quality control with some of their product line and their customer service is a gimmick. They only have E-mail for a contact and I have heard nightmare stories when it comes to a reaching a feasible solution. At least with Apple, I know they will stand behind their product and they are expensive, yes; but they put out very nice, refined hardware.
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I'd love to buy an Apple Watch but I love my Pebble for two things the Apple Watch can't do for me: (1) I can wear it while swimming as it's waterproof, and (2) It's my silent vibrating alarm on my wrist that gently wakes me up every morning, as it doesn't have to charge overnight.


As little as it seems, I really appreciate the audible speaker on the Apple Watch. It's very subtle and nuanced, but really serves its purpose. I actually turned off the haptic feedback to conserve battery life. The speaker on the Apple Watch is not to loud, but for me, it's just right without drawing attention.
 
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So you clip another thing to your clothes that is about 2 times bigger than the watch that needs its own SIM card? Why not just bring your phone?
 
This company is abusing Kickstarter and they should be banned from all crowdfunding sites.

... there is no reason for this company to not get the traditional venture capital which should be far easier considering they have established a brand, product and reputation.

Unless they can't. For those very same reasons...
 
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