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I'm betting many of the AW owners are contemplating hanging themselves right about now.

Had the bezel been about 90% smaller, a touch screen with much better resolution then I could even see that happening.

When apple launches a round watch in the future, these assumptions that a smartwatch must be square will go away ;)

Like the assumptions that a smart watch has to be water proof will go away now with the round pebble?

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I prefer the round face but IMO a square face makes more sense for a smartwatch.
Round face or square face, it still is a crippled product when paired with an iPhone. My kickstarter pebble has been in the drawer since April 24!
 
Like the assumptions that a smart watch has to be water proof will go away now with the round pebble?

Most watches are water resistant, as is the Apple Watch.

I bought a divers watch when I wanted water proof . And this is a long time before smartwatches :)
 
Not as a response to this watch, that will not be successful.

Here is the rationale behind this statement: Pebble has a small market share, that is under attack from the large incumbents in mobile computing (Samsung, Apple, etc..you know who they are). Pebble's only differentiation is the good battery life, but it is questionable whether that will be a defining factor for many consumers that put their watch on a nightstand anyway each night. In addition consumers want options, apps and flexibility, something that Samsung and Apple are able to provide in much higher volume.

I expect Pebble's market share to shrink. They need to make a leap ahead of the rest in order to have a real sustainable competitive advantage and gain market share. I have no confidence that they will be able to do so.

With iOS compatibility coming to Android wear, Peddle doesn't even have a price advantage with iPhone users. I can't see why anyone would choose this over a Moto 360.
 
I almost feel bad for Pebble. Their original watch was really cool when it came out, and mine still works well. The whole issue was it didn't work half as well with iOS as it did with Android. So a good chunk of their market was denied its full capabilities for a long time. Then Moto, Samsung and Apple entered the market and now I don't think they stand much of a chance.
Welcome to the real world! Apple has spent $BILLIONS to build a complete ecosystem. Why would Apple allow a competing product full access to that ecosystem? The big problem is that Pebble doesn't clearly tell the customer that their product does not work as well on iOS as it does on Android. That is deceptive.
 
Stunning, makes the AW look like a cheap and very very over priced toy...

You must have not seen the Apple Watch in person. Apple's renderings and images don't do it justice. When I went to Apple Store, I was shocked by how nice it was. When Android wear users talk about how much cheaper their their smartwatch was over the AW, it all makes sense. Their Android wear watch looks like a $150 smartwatch. The AW (especially SS) looks and feels like a $350-$500 smartwatch. The difference in materials and build quality is huge.
 
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I don't dislike Pebble but I find the marketing video a bit too copycat of Apple's product announcement speeches. Yucks... A lousy after taste that reminds of Samsung - the master of copycats.
 
You must have not seen the Apple Watch in person. Apple's renderingS and images don't do it justice. When I went to Apple Store, I was shocked by how nice it was. When Android wear users talk about how much cheaper their their smartwatch was over the AW, it all makes sense. Their Android wear watch looks like a $150 smartwatch. The AW (especially SS) looks and feels like a $350-$500 smartwatch. The difference materials and build quality is huge.

Yeah seen and played with the AW. $150 would be about the right price range..
The bands I think are ok, it's the body and software that's a real let down.
 
I don't dislike Pebble but I find the marketing video a bit too copycat of Apple's product announcement speeches. Yucks... A lousy after taste that reminds of Samsung - the master of copycats.
Just take a deep breath, don't get too upset.
 
What I don't understand is how anyone can think the screen looks nice. The poor color range, in combination with the horrible clip art/ gif combination for animations, is childish. If that's the trade-off for an always-on display, then I'll pass.

"Here is Pebble Round, for people who want a classy (eye roll) looking watch with a child-like interface. Please tell everyone you know so they will buy one too. K thanks."
 
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I like both round and rectangular watches, but after wearing an Apple Watch for a few months I can't see how a round watch face would ever be as useful for a smartwatch. Apple uses every millimeter of that rectangular display in many instances (from displaying text to complications on corners of watch faces) and it's all genuinely useful.

Unless a company comes out with a brilliant UI for a round display, a round smartwatch is an automatic downgrade in functionality and usefulness IMO, all else being equal.

A good example of Apple's use of the watch face design would be photos. Really who wants to see a photo you have reduced down to a severely cropped out circle. Apple uses the watch remote to show you the preview window on your iPhone camera so you can use the watch to snap the picture. Imagine trying that on a circular screened watch. No I think Apple got it right in rectangular. Maps would be another great use of a rectangular screen. You simply see more of the area you WANT to see when you are viewing these things.

I think Pebble tried to address people complaining about Apple's non-circular watch design. Many of those people wouldn't have probably bought an Apple Watch to begin with. So the big gamble for Pebble as I see it are there enough of those that have iPhones willing to buy this latest round version of Pebble. Software and support are huge factors in one's overall decision what to purchase. And if you go with a $250 watch because it was less expensive, and now decided you don't like it, you could have just saved a little longer and bought the one you probably felt offered more of what you wanted anyway. Now the $250 is gone and you risk getting whatever you can for a used watch to now put towards something else.
 
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What I don't understand is how anyone can think the screen looks nice. The poor color range, in combination with the horrible clip art/ gif combination for animations, is childish. If that's the trade-off for an always-on display, then I'll pass.

"Here is Pebble Round, for people who want a classy (eye roll) looking watch with a child-like interface. Please tell everyone you know so they will buy one too. K thanks."

I don't like the display at all, but it does give them the "we have xyz days of battery life with our watch!"-factor, so it's a trade off that kind of worked out for them, more or less. On top of that you have a hideous bezel that makes the watch look like a very poor attempt at looking like a fashion watch (funny enough after I posted my Teno watch earlier, I came across a few other watches by Teno, seems like Pebble is inspired by the traditional watch business after all - now just imagine Apple had released a watch that looked somewhat like this...

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some of the last few posts in this thread would have been the exact opposite... ;) )
 
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Water resistance, longer battery life, more physical buttons, always-on display is what Pebble has over the Apple Watch. I find the Pebble to be a much better time keeping device due to those points. But I found the Apple Watch to be great in other ways (like messaging from the device, taking calls, more apps).

2 day charging isn't so bad. I charge my devices every night but in case I forget to do so it's nice to know I can still get another day out of the new Pebble.

2 days of battery life for something thats mainly a notification machine for iOS and a little more than that for Android? Well, the Apple Watch can do 1.5 days and Android competition is now coming out with rated 2 days too. I don't really see the reason it should have such low battery life/.

I'm betting many of the AW owners are contemplating hanging themselves right about now.

I know you're just joking but suicide jokes aren't really funny when you think about it....
 
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A good example of Apple's use of the watch face design would be photos. Really who wants to see a photo you have reduced down to a severely cropped out circle. Apple uses the watch remote to show you the preview window on your iPhone camera so you can use the watch to snap the picture. Imagine trying that on a circular screened watch. No I think Apple got it right in rectangular. Maps would be another great use of a rectangular screen. You simply see more of the area you WANT to see when you are viewing these things.
Right, because people buy the Watch to look at their 12MP photos and 4K videos shot with their iPhone 6S on a 1" screen... Gather the family around, uncle Joe is gonna have a slideshow on his Apple smartwatch! /s

A round display of the same height actually gives the camera viewfinder preview window a larger image, making it easier to see on a 1" display, as well as a complete widescreen viewfinder, rather than Apple's cropped one, to ensure you don't cut off anything important in your framing. And there's more room for additional controls as well, if needed.

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And as for how much more area you have for maps, a round watch of the same height as the Watch actually displays more of the mapped area, giving a better perspective for the wearer to orient themselves.


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You couldn't have picked two worse examples to make your point, as a round watch display such as that found in the Huawei watch, actually offers more advantages over the rectangular Watch, at the exact same height.

Moreover, the following example shows how much better a round watch displays a message for use with the "glances" Jony Ive said he designed the watch for ... no need to squint at the round display, which does just as good a job displaying the message as the rectangular display.

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The only advantage a rectangular watch face offers is scrolling blocks of text, which quite frankly is the last thing anybody would likely want to read on a 1" display. And we're not likely to see an iBooks app for the Watch any time soon.
 
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Once again you demonstrate your appalling lack of imagination.



That's right. I find these graphics helpful in pointing that out:

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That's the Huawei, sized exactly to the Watch.

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The statement you are replying to by Manderby is not accurate.

"Apple Watch has a bezel too. And it is about the same size if not larger."

Posting a comparison between the Moto 360 and the Apple Watch is not valid because that is not about the Pebble watches (such as the Pebble Time) and the Apple Watch.
* The Apple Watch has a smaller bezel compared with a Pebble watch like the Pebble Time.

Here is an article which compares the size of the Pebble Time and the Apple Watches.
http://www.gizmag.com/apple-watch-vs-pebble-time/38372/

* Body/case size (mm);
Pebble Time; h 41 w 38
A Watch 42; h 42 w 36
A Watch 38; h 39 w 33

- What this shows is that the body/case of the the Pebble Time is about the same size as the 42 mm Apple Watch. And of course the body/case 38 mm Apple Watch is smaller.

* Screen size (inches);
Pebble Time; 1.25
A Watch 42; 1.5
A Watch 38; 1.32

Body/case size - screen size = bezel
The Pebble Time is about the same size as the 42 mm Apple Watch but its screen is much smaller.
Therefore the Pebble Time has a bigger bezel than both Apple Watches.
As stated in the gizmag article;

the 38 mm Apple Watch gives you 77 percent as much screen as its 42 mm counterpart, and Pebble Time's screen is only 70 percent as big as the larger Apple Watch's display.

The bezel of the Pebble Round is roughly comparable to the Pebble Time and Pebble Time Steel.
As a percentage of their case/body sizes, the Pebble Time/Round have the largest smartwatch bezels.
 
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I had a Pebble years ago, but drop it for a classical watch as I became older.

As always, a smart tech done way before Apple, but for once its new iteration is way better than the ugly Apple Watch.

I might purchase one although the design is not perfect, it still looks 10x better and has 2 days battery with quick charge.
 
I had a Pebble years ago, but drop it for a classical watch as I became older.

As always, a smart tech done way before Apple, but for once its new iteration is way better than the ugly Apple Watch.

I might purchase one although the design is not perfect, it still looks 10x better and has 2 days battery with quick charge.

Of course you hate the Apple Watch and of course you like the Pebble. Personally I find the bezel absolutely disgusting, how much screen estate is left?
 
Pebble says its new round smart watch is the "thinnest and lightest smart watch in the world," measuring in at 7.5mm thick and weighing 28 grams. Comparatively, the Apple Watch is 10.5mm thick with weights between 25 grams (38mm Apple Watch Sport) and 69 grams (Gold Edition Apple Watch).

False advertising from the offset eh.
 
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