China doesn't do Verizon's CDMA. They do their own TM-CDMA which is a very different animal.
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Pegatron to Deliver CDMA iPhone 4s to Apple in Q4?
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China doesn't do Verizon's CDMA. They do their own TM-CDMA which is a very different animal.
I'm no expert and I'm not sure if the iPhone will go to Verizon. However I think that it would work out for all of us in the long run with the two companies engaging in a price war thus saving us all money as both these scum bag companies would hopefully undercut the hell out of each other.
Secondly iPhone data reports have been known to double sometimes triple the average non iphone smartphone users. It would be interesting to see as a true test to verizons network how well it actually works when it is just as stressed as ATTs network with iPhone level traffic.
Last, has anyone considered that this asian company pegatron is producing the CDMA iphones for europe as they have CDMA and they already have the iphone. Truth being there has been a cdma iphone in europe for a year now. So basically the media is just playing all of us by just suggesting that pegatron, who really is producing cdma iphones, are for the US when they know damn well they are for europe or asia or whatever?
Secondly iPhone data reports have been known to double sometimes triple the average non iphone smartphone users. It would be interesting to see as a true test to verizons network how well it actually works when it is just as stressed as ATTs network with iPhone level traffic.
Last, has anyone considered that this asian company pegatron is producing the CDMA iphones for europe as they have CDMA and they already have the iphone. Truth being there has been a cdma iphone in europe for a year now. So basically the media is just playing all of us by just suggesting that pegatron, who really is producing cdma iphones, are for the US when they know damn well they are for europe or asia or whatever?
Agreed. I'm on Verizon next spring, unless the new antenna design makes at&t acceptable. The design would also have to prove itself on Verizon's network as well. My corporate discount is much more favorible on at&t.
Of course millions of iPhones could very well bring Verizon to it's knees as well.
When the CDMA iphone 4 is released (yes it is coming) wait a few months. Quality control at a non Foxconn manufacturer needs to be watched closely as well.
You ain't seen a backlog until you release iPhone on VZ
I'm not sure why every time we see news about a new CDMA version of the iPhone, it's assumed to be a Verizon phone. Sure, we've heard all the rumors about CDMA and Verizon but neither appear to be very solid, least of which is that Verizon will get the CDMA device. Given the demand for iPhone 4, wouldn't it make sense for Apple to release it on a smaller network of users to "self limit" the demand side? Granted, Verizon offers the best volume of new customers, but the last thing Apple needs is another black eye on their supply constraints by unloading it into the Verizon market. Word is Verizon has moved on to Android and a tighter relationship with Google.
If Apple DOES release a CDMA version, it seems to me any of the CDMA carriers would be a potential option. Now, give me news on an Apple G4 strategy and that's a horse of a different color.
I'm not sure why every time we see news about a new CDMA version of the iPhone, it's assumed to be a Verizon phone. Sure, we've heard all the rumors about CDMA and Verizon but neither appear to be very solid, least of which is that Verizon will get the CDMA device. Given the demand for iPhone 4, wouldn't it make sense for Apple to release it on a smaller network of users to "self limit" the demand side? Granted, Verizon offers the best volume of new customers, but the last thing Apple needs is another black eye on their supply constraints by unloading it into the Verizon market. Word is Verizon has moved on to Android and a tighter relationship with Google.
If Apple DOES release a CDMA version, it seems to me any of the CDMA carriers would be a potential option. Now, give me news on an Apple G4 strategy and that's a horse of a different color.
can we assume that if/when the iphone goes to Verizon, that it will be launched simutaniously on Sprints network? Since Sprint and Verizon already share towers and roaming agreements, and you could jailbreak a VZW phone to work on Sprint and vice versa. Im thinking the day VZW gets iPhone so does Sprint. I can see the Nascar/Sprint iPhone add now. " Official phone of Nascar " say what you like Nascar has a lot of fans.
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why does everyone keep on bashing AT&T for their servers crashing. Verizon would not be even able to handle the load either. Apple sold out of the first stock of inventory the first day. something they did not expect. but blame it on the white iphone not being released. if apple had equal quantities of both black and white iphones =1.2 million iphones. Apple dropped the ball because they did not have the proper quantities in place. But why would AT&T upgrade their systems to handle the load one week a year? not very economical.
ok these rumors are not gonig to end are they ..............as a apple fan i dont want a cdma phone with Verizon to happen because i want all the droidboys to stay where they are but if global take over is what jobs wants well thats what he will get when verizon is had
Then as an apple fan you better stop making up rumors for the next iMac, Mac Pro. The iPad and iPhone had their times as major rumors like this.
I would want iPhone on Verizon because ATT is horrible coverage wise.
ETF, that's why. Sorry, I thought that was pretty obvious.
Most people locked into contracts with AT+T would not want to pay hefty early termination fees just to switch carriers. That's the whole purpose of the ETF in the 1st place...to dissuade people to switch. Now if V subsized the phone enough so that it only cost $50 or $100, then a great number of people would probably swallow the ETF as the savings would be made on the other end, but V probably wouldn't eat that much of the phone cost.
Manufacturer-quality holy war if this happens
Peering into my crystal ball I foresee endless threads debating the differences in quality between two iPhone manufacturers. Oh, and imagine the fun we'll have when it comes to benchmarking battery life, call quality, data transfer...
Peering into my crystal ball I foresee endless threads debating the differences in quality between two iPhone manufacturers. Oh, and imagine the fun we'll have when it comes to benchmarking battery life, call quality, data transfer...
What's that sound?
Oh, that's the sound of the stampede leaving AT&T and heading over to Verizon where, even if the data speeds are slower, folks can at least make phone calls and not get dropped.
I passed on the iPhone (all versions) for two reasons:
1. AT&T - are you kidding me? Their network sucks. When I worked for Apple they had us use AT&T and I couldn't complete a phone call. Went back to Alltel (now part of Verizon) when I left Apple.
2. Have to pay for Web access I don't need nor want. That's going to be a tough one.
Looks like I'll be sticking with my Motorola Q (which syncs contacts and calendars just fine with my Mac using SyncMate).
Oh, that's the sound of the stampede leaving AT&T and heading over to Verizon where, even if the data speeds are slower, folks can at least make phone calls and not get dropped.
I passed on the iPhone (all versions) for two reasons:
1. AT&T - are you kidding me? Their network sucks. When I worked for Apple they had us use AT&T and I couldn't complete a phone call. Went back to Alltel (now part of Verizon) when I left Apple.
2. Have to pay for Web access I don't need nor want. That's going to be a tough one.
Looks like I'll be sticking with my Motorola Q (which syncs contacts and calendars just fine with my Mac using SyncMate).
Yes, they *do* use CDMA1X and in huge quantities.
I have first-hand experience with this.
Are they also trying to deploy TD-SCDMA (not "TM-CDMA" as you write)? Yes, but it's not necessarily going all that well.
That, plus the nearly doubling of early termination fees at the beginning of the month. AT&T is using both the stick and the carrot to keep/lure as many as possible before an announcement of availability on another carrier. Like they say..."actions speak louder than words."
Never going to happen
This rumor is motivated by people that want this to happen, not by actual work ongoing at Apple. Apple is working on an LTE version, but that isn't a guarantee that the phone will ever land itself on the Verizon network. I should also add to that CDMA is a pretty ambiguous way to describe Verizon's current network. More accurately CDMA2000. However, the dumbest part of the rumor is that CDMA2000 is dead technology. The official successor to CDMA2000 is LTE.
I myself would like to see the iPhone unlocked to support any GSM/UMTS/LTE carrier but the likelyhood of supporting an end-of-life technology like CDMA2000 is zero.
This rumor is motivated by people that want this to happen, not by actual work ongoing at Apple. Apple is working on an LTE version, but that isn't a guarantee that the phone will ever land itself on the Verizon network. I should also add to that CDMA is a pretty ambiguous way to describe Verizon's current network. More accurately CDMA2000. However, the dumbest part of the rumor is that CDMA2000 is dead technology. The official successor to CDMA2000 is LTE.
I myself would like to see the iPhone unlocked to support any GSM/UMTS/LTE carrier but the likelyhood of supporting an end-of-life technology like CDMA2000 is zero.
that sucks to have in the back of my mind buying this new phone and renewing for an additional 2 years!
I guess I would pay the penalty and skip town cause ATT is the worst carrier in the world!
I guess I would pay the penalty and skip town cause ATT is the worst carrier in the world!
Come on now.
I'll say it again because people cannot grasp this concept. People will pay the ETF to get away from AT&T if another carrier has the iPhone. It's this thing called competition.
Thats the thing Apple and AT&T have been trying to stop with the exclusive contract they have with each other. Yes, you may not be willing to pay the ETF but there are people who are willing to pay it. And BTW you can still sell the iPhone 4 you have when you leave AT&T and get this other thing called money.
As for the iPhone price it will most likely be the same price from Verizon ($199 and $299). Why would they charge more for the device?
It's all speculation since its yet another rumor.
I'll say it again because people cannot grasp this concept. People will pay the ETF to get away from AT&T if another carrier has the iPhone. It's this thing called competition.
Thats the thing Apple and AT&T have been trying to stop with the exclusive contract they have with each other. Yes, you may not be willing to pay the ETF but there are people who are willing to pay it. And BTW you can still sell the iPhone 4 you have when you leave AT&T and get this other thing called money.
As for the iPhone price it will most likely be the same price from Verizon ($199 and $299). Why would they charge more for the device?
It's all speculation since its yet another rumor.
No it isn't. People buy Androids because they can't buy iPhones.
what is the iPhone/Android ratio on AT&T???
I still want to know what you experts think on this point? Cause im no expert and I am very curious. thank you!
I'll believe it when Apple, VZW or CHina Telecom offically confirms that it is here. Or if it shows up on a respected news site like G****** or on some Vietnamese dude's YouTube page.
AFAIK the only Android phone presently available from AT&T is the Moto Backflip, and that's a fairly recent acquisition. (I just got one for my son.) So it's probably too early for making direct comparisons of iPhone vs Android uptake on AT&T.
Oh, and the reason he wanted the Backflip was for the physical keyboard -- makes his 100+ texts/day easier.
If I was close to the end of my contract with AT+T, then yes I'd consider paying a pro-rated ETF. But certainly not if I was a new customer only 3 or 4 months into a 24 month contract, and this was my point about Verizon's immediate concern. Would some people still jump ship? Absolutely, but those people would be the exception and not the norm. There'd be some churn rate, but those ETFs are outrageously high for a reason, and would dissuade the typical AT+T contract member.
Most people don't sell things on eBay, nor would they see it as an option. For them to jump ship to Verizon, it'd be $200 for the AT+T iPhone 4 + $300 ETF + $200 Verizon iPhone. So you're talking $700 minimum for the typical AT+T user to jump ship to V in 3-4 months time if the rumors are true. Thanks, but no thanks. Just my opinion, but I think it's too cost prohibitive for the average consumer, which is why Verizon should not hesitate to leak an iPhone coming their way before launch day.
Isn't verizon ditching CDMA with their 4G network? I heard the US Military wants to use CDMA and everyone else will use GSM.
A employee is in the UK for two weeks of conferences and meetings and just realized how useless her Verizon Droid is. If only she had an iPhone.
Get's better, she called Verizon before she left and they told her to upgrade to the LG Ally, because it would work. Guess what it doesn't.
She contacted them from the UK and they apologized. Great service.
Get's better, she called Verizon before she left and they told her to upgrade to the LG Ally, because it would work. Guess what it doesn't.
She contacted them from the UK and they apologized. Great service.
China Mobile
I guess you better check your numbers again according to a China Mobile press release: "As of 30 April, 2010. Total customers. Customer number, 544213. Net additions, 5326. Cumulative net additions, 21930. Customer Base (in thousands )" With the majority being on their TD-SCDMA 3G network. For those who are mathematically challenge that 1/2 Billion subscribers and the place I'd invest my xCDMA $$$.
And the biggest GSM provider in the world is larger than that.
Originally Posted by jholzner
Verizon isn't the ONLY CDMA carrier on the planet. It would work on Sprint to as well as in many other countries with carriers that use CDMA. It appears that there are 480 million CDMA subscribers world wide.
I guess you better check your numbers again according to a China Mobile press release: "As of 30 April, 2010. Total customers. Customer number, 544213. Net additions, 5326. Cumulative net additions, 21930. Customer Base (in thousands )" With the majority being on their TD-SCDMA 3G network. For those who are mathematically challenge that 1/2 Billion subscribers and the place I'd invest my xCDMA $$$.