i agree that a mini tower would be nice from Apple.
Bill Gates might be giving away some of his money, but look at what he's done to his shareholders
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i agree that a mini tower would be nice from Apple.
Bill Gates might be giving away some of his money, but look at what he's done to his shareholders
If you want to see what he's done for shareholders, follow this link:
I don't think that anyone would think that Apple would sell a quad core mini-tower for less than the price of a MiniMac - but Apple could make a nice mini-tower and sell it for its usual margins.
You should look at the Dell Precision Workstation 390 as an example of what Apple could do. A quad 390 is about $1000 less than a similarly configured entry Mac Pro.
You know you could just buy the dell..
You know you could just buy the dell
I bought 4 of them, and 8 more with the dual-core CPU instead of the quad.
One of the quads is on the floor by my left foot, quietly working away....
I've done okay by him, but then I bought my stock in the IPO.
We'd love to (try the Dell) if they ran OS X.
I admit to being surprised that OS X on non-Apple hardware hasn't advanced very far, considering all the other efforts to hack Apple hardware and software products.
Not in a "non-professional" model, in my opinion.
I don't even think we need a Core2 Extreme Quadcore in a "Mac Mini Tower". I'd be happy with a single dual-core. I just want to be able to add more internal HDD storage (even if just one extra drive) and replace my GPU card with better technology.
I've done okay by him, but then I bought my stock in the IPO.
what's IPO?
all my dad says is how microsoft gives their stock away to their employees and thus drives the price down of the stock.
The dual-core chips are the "Celerons" of the new lineup.... Most quads will be single-socket. Dual-socket machines will be octo or hex.
Search for "jobs apple stock grant" and give your dad the printout...
he said "dual-socket", not dual-core.
but what does that have to do with microsoft?
Look at the Dell PW390, and tell me what's "non-professional" about it.
Apple's use of the word "Pro" is becoming absurd - it means "costs more", nothing else. My 73 year old mother-in-law has an MBP - because it looked better than the white plastic one.
I wish that Apple hadn't copied Microsoft on that one....
It shows that stock grants, options and ESPP are very common in the high tech industry.
You might also want to show your dad http://www.ibnlive.com/news/microsoft-plans-share-buyback/19176-7.html - buy-backs are also common in the industry.
The fiction that companies just print shares and give them away persists, however.
Edited the post for clarity - single-socket quads will be the mainstream.
It seems silly to get a dual core, dual socket machine anymore then when you can get a much cheaper quad core, single socket then.
If you're only going for a quad core.
then what was the cause of the decline in value of microsoft's stock? after it had went up for so long
It is pretty amazing, isn't it?
Initial Public Offering.
In other words, I bought my shares the day the stock first went public.
I'll spot you that point, with the caveat that Apple does not want to have a dozen or more models (that are differentiated often just by the model number) and as such restricts them to some pretty serious "spec gaps" between models to differentiate them.
HP has like six workstation models. As such, they can offer two models with one CPU slot that takes dual-core CPUs and two models with one CPU slot that can take dual-core or quad-core CPUs and two models with two CPU slots that can take dual-core or quad-core CPUs.
And don't get me started on laptops, where they have over a dozen models.
That is why I'd be happy with a single "Mac Unprofessional" that has a single CPU slot that takes one dual-core CPU and two HDDs and a PCIexpress slot for video.
You mean "Mac Amateur", right?
If the Mac Amateur has a desktop chipset it can handle a dual-core or a quad-core. Conroes and Kentsfields are interchangeable.
Quad core to Octo core is a pretty good "spec gap" to differentiate the mini-tower from the maxi-tower, as well as 8 GiB max to 16 GiB max.
If the Mac Amateur has a desktop chipset it can handle a dual-core or a quad-core. Conroes and Kentsfields are interchangeable.
Quad core to Octo core is a pretty good "spec gap" to differentiate the mini-tower from the maxi-tower, as well as 8 GiB max to 16 GiB max.
Penryn Production
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http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archive/releases/20071025corp.htm?iid=pr1_releasepri_20071025r
Intel Opens First High-Volume 45nm Microprocessor Manufacturing Factory
New $3 Billion Facility to Produce Processors with Intel 45nm Hafnium-based High-k Metal Gate Transistors
CHANDLER, Ariz., Oct. 25, 2007 – Production of a new generation of microprocessors for PCs, laptops, servers and other computing devices officially began today inside of Intel Corporation's first high-volume 45 nanometer (nm) manufacturing factory in Chandler, Ariz.
Called "Fab 32," the $3 billion factory will use Intel's innovative 45nm process technology based on Intel's breakthrough in "reinventing" certain areas of the transistors inside its processors to reduce energy leakage.
The 45nm transistors use a Hafnium-based high-k material for the gate dielectric and metal materials for the gate, and are so small that more than 2 million can fit on the period at the end of this sentence. Millions of these tiny transistors will make up Intel's faster, more energy efficient lead- and halogen-free processors for PCs, laptops and servers, as well as ultra low-power processors for mobile Internet and consumer electronic devices, and low-cost PCs.
The first of the company's 45nm processors is scheduled to be introduced on Nov. 12.
New $3 Billion Facility to Produce Processors with Intel 45nm Hafnium-based High-k Metal Gate Transistors
CHANDLER, Ariz., Oct. 25, 2007 – Production of a new generation of microprocessors for PCs, laptops, servers and other computing devices officially began today inside of Intel Corporation's first high-volume 45 nanometer (nm) manufacturing factory in Chandler, Ariz.
Called "Fab 32," the $3 billion factory will use Intel's innovative 45nm process technology based on Intel's breakthrough in "reinventing" certain areas of the transistors inside its processors to reduce energy leakage.
The 45nm transistors use a Hafnium-based high-k material for the gate dielectric and metal materials for the gate, and are so small that more than 2 million can fit on the period at the end of this sentence. Millions of these tiny transistors will make up Intel's faster, more energy efficient lead- and halogen-free processors for PCs, laptops and servers, as well as ultra low-power processors for mobile Internet and consumer electronic devices, and low-cost PCs.
The first of the company's 45nm processors is scheduled to be introduced on Nov. 12.
And that might be the best way for Apple to approach this. Ship the machine only with dual-core choices, then let the end-user take the chance of putting a quad-core in it if they want, at the risk of voiding their warranty. Easy enough for Apple to put anti-tampering stickers or something on the heatsink, I would imagine.
That way, the Mac Pro remains the only "sanctioned" quad-core system and can command the requisite premium in price.
I disagree - the Mac Amateur should be dual or quad - and all Mac Pros are octo.
I do think a Mac Amateur with a quad would take a good chunk out of the Mac Pro's hide - especially if Mac Pros are only dual-quads which would make them very expensive at the entry level, so only folks who really, really, really need that performance (and have jobs that are "charged by the hour" where that extra power means more work done per unit of time) would buy them.
Right now, I expect a good number of people just "suck it up" and pay the 240% price premium minimum over the iMac (comparing a $2800 Mac Pro 2.0GHz with 1GB, 250GB HDD, 20" CD, and 802.11/BlueTooth to a $1200 20" iMac) because the iMac is just too restrictive in terms of expandability and upgrading.
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Oh, you mean if the Mac Pros became "pro" machines?
On the other hand, considering that my white-haired mother-in-law who can barely handle email has a MacBook Pro, enough Apple users have TooMuchMoney® and would get the octo just for willy-waving.
ps: Having a mother-in-law with TooMuchMoney® is not a bad thing....
Oh, you mean if the Mac Pros became "pro" machines?
On the other hand, considering that my white-haired mother-in-law who can barely handle email has a MacBook Pro, enough Apple users have TooMuchMoney® and would get the octo just for willy-waving.
ps: Having a mother-in-law with TooMuchMoney® is not a bad thing....