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Penryn Based Mac Pros Soon?

AidenShaw said:
Oh, you mean if the Mac Pros became "pro" machines? :eek:

On the other hand, considering that my white-haired mother-in-law who can barely handle email has a MacBook Pro, enough Apple users have TooMuchMoney® and would get the octo just for willy-waving.

ps: Having a mother-in-law with TooMuchMoney® is not a bad thing....
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yeah but people like that are buying for looks or the size of the screen.

and yes, having a mother-in-law iwth too much money is a good thing :)
 
Oppositional Defiance Disorder (ODD)

Can y'all stop saying things Aiden disagrees with?

Aiden, you are right. Apple needs to make a mini-tower. I agree with you that nobody here has put up a single good reason why :apple: doesn't make one.

Now, how 'bout them Penryn Based Mac Pros? We who are looking forward to them and really want one, that is...:rolleyes:
 
8core utilization

rickdollar said:
This may be a silly question but will Leopard, Adobe CS3 and Apple pro products be able to fully utilize these 8 core processors?
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The Adobe CS3 and specifically After Effects were rated the programs that best utilize all 8 cores of the Mac Pro
 
Multimedia said:
I respectfully disagree that you will not need 8 cores soon enough. But fear not - there will be an 8 core system in the low $2K price point - perhaps even one Quad model although I doubt it.

Your notion that 99% of apps don't use more than one core is really inaccurate in the target that Mac Pros are made for. The most popular and yet mundane of applications like Toast 8 and Handbrake are fully multi-threaded and use all 8 cores. Final Cut Studio 2, Logic 8, Aperture, iLife '08 all are multi-threaded and can use 2-8 cores all the time.

You certainly are not going to have to buy the 3.2 GHz model. That's only for the professionals who must have maximum power every day.
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I think you are missing the point on this one.

The fact is, that a CPU that runs a 3.2 GHz will serve my purposes and probably the majority of users purposes better then Octo 2.6Ghz machines. But to have to pay 2k more to obtain that type of performance is just dumb. Give me a single quad 3.2Ghz solution, I also don't need the ability to upgrade to 32gb of ram. 8 is more then sufficient.
 
Eidorian said:
Why would you buy an Apple monitor? ;)
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FW400 ;)

davewolfs said:
I think you are missing the point on this one.

The fact is, that a CPU that runs a 3.2 GHz will serve my purposes and probably the majority of users purposes better then Octo 2.6Ghz machines. But to have to pay 2k more to obtain that type of performance is just dumb. Give me a single quad 3.2Ghz solution, I also don't need the ability to upgrade to 32gb of ram. 8 is more then sufficient.
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I agree with that. I'd rather have a more efficient single chip quad core machine, than an expensive, blazing hot blaring loud dual chip octo core machine. I never liked any of the PowerMac G5's because they were beyond loud, until they became single chip dual core and the heat issues and noise issues became non-existent in the dual 2GHz and 2.3GHz.
 
CWallace said:
You forgot a monitor. Kind of hard to work when you cannot see what you are doing. ;)
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I forgot the monitor as it's cost would be associated with a MacPro and a Mac Tower (if it existed). I thought you added the $400 monitor cost to inflate the MacPro cost even though this same requirement for a monitor would be needed for any Mac tower you'd buy. I bought a MacPro and already had a monitor.
 
Looking forward to the updates, as my faithful G5 Powermac is getting long in the tooth.

I'm buying as soon as they are released, same with a new Macbook if they go Aluminum. I'm holding off on Leopard until I get my new machines, so I wish they would hurry up already!
 
jonnos said:
do 8core mac pros heat up alot? would it heat up a small room w/o airconditioning pretty fast?
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This is for a quad 2.66 - an octo 3.0 would probably be about 550 or 600 watts at peak load. Apple says that it draws 6 amps in Australia, but that's probably the initial surge when turning the 1000 watt power supply on.

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=5363179

You could use APC SMART-UPS 1000VA or the RS1500VA. There are lots of threads on UPS needs and demands.

The more RAM and drives, and PCIe cards, the higher.

Power Usage of Mac Pro It requires 410 watts to start up, idles at 300 watts, and peaks at 430 watts when running Doom 3, the most demanding power wise of the ten apps we tried.

The Mac Pro had 16GB of RAM, four internal hard drives, and a Radeon X1900 XT. We're confident the Mac Pro's 980 watt power supply can handle just about everything you can do to upgrade or expand a Mac Pro.

Mac Pro: Power consumption and thermal output (BTU) information
Update: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=304378

Mac Pro (Late 2006) Quad Core 2.66 Ghz Mac Pro
Idle and max consumption:
171 W 445 W
854 BTU/hr 1,519 BTU/hr

Notes

*Power consumption data (Watts) is measured from the wall power source and includes all power supply and system losses.
Additional correction is not needed.

*"CPU Max" is defined as running a compute-intensive test application that maximizes processor usage and therefore power consumption.

*These numbers reflect a 23° C (73.4° F) ambient running environment. Increased ambient temperatures will require faster fan speeds which will increase power consumption.
At 35° C (95° F), 50 W should be added to reflect increased power consumption.

*1000W PSU do not deliver more than 500-600W effectively​
 
AidenShaw said:
This is for a quad 2.66 - an octo 3.0 would probably be about 550 or 600 watts at peak load.

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=5363179

You could use APC SMART-UPS 1000VA or the RS1500VA. There are lots of threads on UPS needs and demands.

The more RAM and drives, and PCIe cards, the higher.

Power Usage of Mac Pro It requires 410 watts to start up, idles at 300 watts, and peaks at 430 watts when running Doom 3, the most demanding power wise of the ten apps we tried.

The Mac Pro had 16GB of RAM, four internal hard drives, and a Radeon X1900 XT. We're confident the Mac Pro's 980 watt power supply can handle just about everything you can do to upgrade or expand a Mac Pro.

Mac Pro: Power consumption and thermal output (BTU) information
Update: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=304378

Mac Pro (Late 2006) Quad Core 2.66 Ghz Mac Pro
Idle and max consumption:
171 W 445 W
854 BTU/hr 1,519 BTU/hr

Notes

*Power consumption data (Watts) is measured from the wall power source and includes all power supply and system losses.
Additional correction is not needed.

*"CPU Max" is defined as running a compute-intensive test application that maximizes processor usage and therefore power consumption.

*These numbers reflect a 23° C (73.4° F) ambient running environment. Increased ambient temperatures will require faster fan speeds which will increase power consumption.
At 35° C (95° F), 50 W should be added to reflect increased power consumption.

*1000W PSU do not deliver more than 500-600W effectively​
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That's definitely going to be noticeable on my power bill compared to this laptop.
 
cgc said:
I forgot the monitor as it's cost would be associated with a MacPro and a Mac Tower (if it existed). I thought you added the $400 monitor cost to inflate the MacPro cost even though this same requirement for a monitor would be needed for any Mac tower you'd buy. I bought a MacPro and already had a monitor.
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True, but my comparison was between an Al iMac 20" (which has a 20" monitor) and the Mac Pro, so I had to add the 20" monitor to the MP. :)

But you are correct that a "Mac Amateur" would also need a monitor - either Apple or third-party.
 
11.11

hey, assuming apple is first and we see something around 11.11, when would this most likely be announced? the same day? a week before?!
:D hope my boss has the cash ready :D
 
babboxy said:
hey, assuming apple is first and we see something around 11.11, when would this most likely be announced?
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Most likely the Mac Pro announcement will be this coming Tuesday, November 13th. Apple normally announces on a Tuesday and this would be the day after Penryn's "Coming Out Party" on Monday, November 12th.
 
CWallace said:
Most likely the announcement will be this coming Tuesday, October 30th.

Otherwise, Apple will announce it on Tuesday, November 6th when they ship it.
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I don't believe Apple will announce anything before Intel announces the chips on 12 Nov. It just wouldn't make sense for Intel to allow Apple to jump the gun.

Apple's been a tiny bit to a huge bit late to adopt each new Intel technology - I doubt that Penryn will be any different.

(The only time that Apple was first or close to it was when they adopted the Clovertown quad core 5 months after introduction. They used a power-hungry 150 watt bin of the chip, whereas most of the other manufacturers waited for the lower-power, faster G0 stepping of the Clovertown. Apple was first with the 3.0GHz version because nobody else wanted that old, hot revision of the chip.)


CWallace said:
I do not expect to see an MBP announcement or launch on November 11, because that would be a Sunday and it would not be covered by print and television media.
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MacBook Pro? The new chips for mobiles won't be ready until early next year. I don't think that Apple would do an MBP upgrade using end-of-line silicon.
 
AidenShaw said:
I don't believe Apple will announce anything before Intel announces the chips on 12 Nov. It just wouldn't make sense for Intel to allow Apple to jump the gun.
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Too many parallel discussions going on. I am starting to confuse the most likely release dates MacBook, MacBook Pro, and Mac Pro. :eek:

So I think Tuesday November 13th will be the most likely announce date for the next Mac Pro.

And I think Tuesday, November 6th is the most likely announce date for the next MacBook.

And I think the Tuesday after the Mobile Penryns are formally announced for sale by Intel is the most likely announce date fr the next MacBook Pro.
 
CWallace said:
So I think Tuesday November 13th will be the most likely announce date for the next Mac Pro.

And I think Tuesday, November 6th is the most likely announce date for the next MacBook.
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The Mac Pro should take priority over the Macbook, seeing as how the Mac Pro is the oldest product in the barn, and the Macbook has been without an update for only 5 1/2 months.
 
Wild-Bill said:
The Mac Pro should take priority over the Macbook, seeing as how the Mac Pro is the oldest product in the barn, and the Macbook has been without an update for only 5 1/2 months.
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Why release the Macbook after the Mac Pro when there is a window before the week Penryn is released? Also the Macbook vastly outsells the Pro making it a much hotter property.
 
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