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A Mac miniTOWER with:

- 1 and up to 2 quad-core 45 nm Penryn processors.
- 4 GB RAM and up to 8 GB (1 GB per core).
- 1 and up to 2 disks 1 TB each inside (7,200 rpm).
- 4 eSATA II ports, 4 FireWire 800 ports and 4 USB 2 ports.
- 1 and up to 2 SuperDrives (option for Blu-ray)
- No need of PCI slots.
- As quiet as posible.



Stop it! Please don't start it up...

I will pay whatever for that!

If so then get the MacPro! :D
 
Maybe it's a sign for me to hold off on the MacBook and just go straight to this! I love how when people ask for the moon on a stick, Apple give it to them, with a shiny stick to boot! :D
 
You people and your money. The only way I'll see a new Mac Pro is if I drive for an hour to the nearest Apple Store. Even my school has the old plastic G4s and some first gen aluminum G5s.

Nothing wrong with old plastic G4s, mate - check my signature - but when you're doing work that would benefit from the power of these things (I've just been waiting for graphics card updates) they end up paying for themselves, to use a tired yet true old expression.

I haven't seen anyone post about wanting one to perch out front so they demonstrate their groovitude. ;)
 
Maybe it's a sign for me to hold off on the MacBook and just go straight to this! I love how when people ask for the moon on a stick, Apple give it to them, with a shiny stick to boot! :D

Apple hasn't given anything yet, in fact the MP should have got a price cut or update months ago...
 
I am in the same market bracket, I don't need the horse power of the MacPro but i need upgradeable graphics. I do some freelance stuff and some personal computing but my paper will buy all the 8 core high-end MacPros that I need.

The issue here is that Apple won't do it anytime soon, and the topic has been talked to death since the G4 Cube and people haven't gotten a clue. I used to be in your boat until I got a clue, and have been flamed by people that were once in the same boat for years. We all moved on after nothing of a headless iMac appeared and have either learned to live with the iMac's limitations, or have saved up the cash and gotten the bottom end Mac Pro.

OR, we have bought PCs and keep an iMac around for the other things. There are other options once you think about it, and after a while you learn to not worry about what Apple doesn't have for me right this second, and start thinking about what I need right now to do my job.

Well, for me, I'm a PC tech, and I have to use and service Windows at work. Occasionally I get to play with Macs.

At home, I love having a Mac, but I also like to play games, and have a media center. I currently have a Shuttle PC on the HDTV (tried Linux on it for a while, but got frustrated, switched to Windows MCE which is still a bit of a pain but at least most stuff works and I can use Netflix Watch Now and Joost and other such stuff), and a Mini G4 and hacked-together gaming XP PC in the bedroom. I thought about putting the Mini on the TV, but no Netflix, no good media center that I know of (Front Row is on the Intel Mini, and I've gotten it to work on the G4, but it's just too limited. Forget about fullscreen H.264 on a G4! Even the Shuttle has problems.)

I'd love to have a new Mac that'll replace the G4 and the gaming box, but nothing seems to quite cut it unless I spend around $2500 which is just insanely way too much. In truth, there's just not a whole lot I really use the Mac for, but I'd love to get into iLife, maybe even Xcode. But the G4 is just too pokey for me.

In short, I love Macs and OS X, but unfortunately nothing currently available suits my needs and budget.
 
Thanks Multimedia. What did you say your predicted announcement date was? I should list my setup on ebay about 9 days before that.

And also, can you clear up some space in your inbox so you can take a look at my ebay listing? I would really appreciate it if you'd help me refine it.
 
You think people with the old Mac Pro's would be able to upgrade to the new CPU's like they could buy the 8 Core one and put it in their 4 Core Mac Pro? Then it'd be pretty nice.
 
No way, because it mus be quiet. Ultra-quiet. Bedroom-quiet, which the Mac Pro is not! That us why a Mac mini TOWER is needed.

Quiet is in the ear of the beholder.

My mac pro is super darn quiet considering how much power it has.

I am a noise snob and I think my macpro is QUIET. Yah I can hear the fan slightly....yah the cube was silent, but the cube did not give me 4 intel high performance cores and a 1300k bus speed.
 
You Can Upgrade Your Old Mac Pro

You think people with the old Mac Pro's would be able to upgrade to the new CPU's like they could buy the 8 Core one and put it in their 4 Core Mac Pro? Then it'd be pretty nice.
You can. But you'll be missing out on the Stoakley-Seaburg enhancements to the motherboard so that's not a wise path to take.
 
Mac Pros Are Deadly Silent • The Make NO NOISE AT ALL

No way, because it mus be quiet. Ultra-quiet. Bedroom-quiet, which the Mac Pro is not! That is why a Mac mini TOWER is needed.
Why do you think the Mac Pro is noisy? I can't hear mine at all.
Quiet is in the ear of the beholder.

My mac pro is super darn quiet considering how much power it has.

I am a noise snob and I think my macpro is QUIET. Yah I can hear the fan slightly....yah the cube was silent, but the cube did not give me 4 intel high performance cores and a 1300k bus speed.
I agree completely. There is ZERO noise coming from a Mac Pro. It must be some kind of Urban Myth that there are still people out there who think Mac Pros are noisy. Fact is they are as quiet as Cubes - zero noise.
 
The CPU upgrade will be terrific! but i am also hoping for:

1- Blu-ray drives - drives which can playback BD discs and option for one that can burn media
2- Graphics cards - Badly need an overhaul and HDCP compliant output. ie a card which can output HD video which is copy protected, ie the majority of them.

Card chips great to use:
GeForce 8800 GTX

midrange ones
GeForce 8800 GTS
Radeon HD X2900 XT

Stock card to use X1950 XT

But obviously check to make sure card is HDCP compliant

3- New Displays: need 1080P type monitors which can also display tv HDMI signals. have a tv type with speakers integrated.
 
45% Faster According To Intel

So is the speed bump... 25% faster at the same speed as current mac pro chips?
45% faster according to Intel.
Speaking at Intel's Beijing developer forum earlier this year, Intel senior VP Pat Gelsinger said Harpertown Xeons will offer an approximate 45 percent speed increase for bandwidth-intensive applications compared to the Clovertown Xeon chips available in today's Mac Pros.
 
My Guesses

My Guesses: In a couple of weeks :)

eSata 500gb standard
4 gig ram standard
Blu-ray
Upgraded video card (don't know enough to say which one)
HDMI
fire 400/800
digital audio - maybe spdif also?
USB 2.0
Included? Wireless/Bluetooth
New Keyboard - full size with numeric entry (possibly the new keyboard where lighted keys change according to application?) (add $200 to cost as option)

CHIPS
Hapertown
E5410 quad 2.33 $256 per 1000 with 12mb
E5430 quad 2.66 $455 per 1000 with 12mb
E5462 quad 3.00 $797 per 1000 with 12mb

Prices?
These are my GUESSES - so relax

Octo 2.33 = $1899
Octo 2.66 = $2399
Octo 3.00 = $2999

What do you think?
 
senseless spec

A Mac miniTOWER with:

- 1 and up to 2 quad-core 45 nm Penryn processors.
- 4 GB RAM and up to 8 GB (1 GB per core).
- 1 and up to 2 disks 1 TB each inside (7,200 rpm).
- 4 eSATA II ports, 4 FireWire 800 ports and 4 USB 2 ports.
- 1 and up to 2 SuperDrives (option for Blu-ray)
- No need of PCI slots.
- As quiet as posible.

I will pay whatever for that!
Aside from the fact that this is yet another version of the "xTower/MiniTower" fantasy, :rolleyes: this spec makes absolutely no sense for that market segment.

You are describing a low-end tower in the same niche as the iMac but with a bit more upgradeability (the dream lives on). But the kind of person in that market, is not going to need 4 SATA ports, not going to need 4 FireWire ports, not going to need Terabyte discs either. That's just nuts. Anyone needing that kind of I/O spec will need the full MP, and all of these weird additions will jack up the price almost to the MP price point anyway.

You also say that it doesn't need PCI slots, but the biggest argument for the "xTower/MiniTower" is that it needs upgradeable graphics. This is also the exact kind of machine (the low-end tower), that some idiot always wants to put a modem or some old network card into.

You will see a Mac Mini or an iMac that can swap out hard drives, graphics cards, and memory chips before you see anything like this IMO.
 
Mac Pro's do make noise. They are not silent. If you put one in a dead silent room, it would be very loud, and when you put it to sleep, you'd hear the sound in the room die down to real silence. Alot of people live in noisy places, or work in noisy places, so they don't hear the computer, but it definitely is not silent.
 
The CPU upgrade will be terrific! but i am also hoping for:

1- Blu-ray drives - drives which can playback BD discs and option for one that can burn media
2- Graphics cards - Badly need an overhaul and HDCP compliant output. ie a card which can output HD video which is copy protected, ie the majority of them.

Card chips great to use:
GeForce 8800 GTX

midrange ones
GeForce 8800 GTS
Radeon HD X2900 XT

Stock card to use X1950 XT

But obviously check to make sure card is HDCP compliant

3- New Displays: need 1080P type monitors which can also display tv HDMI signals. have a tv type with speakers integrated.

I couldn't agree more. I forgot to mention the Blu-Ray drive... but my gut is telling me there won't be one yet. Would it be too much of a pain to install an internal BRD afterward?
 
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