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Penryn Based Mac Pros Soon?

Full refresh...?

DrGruv1 said:
My Guesses: In a couple of weeks :)

eSata 500gb standard
4 gig ram standard
Blu-ray
Upgraded video card (don't know enough to say which one)
HDMI
fire 400/800
digital audio - maybe spdif also?
USB 2.0
Included? Wireless/Bluetooth
New Keyboard - full size with numeric entry (possibly the new keyboard where lighted keys change according to application?) (add $200 to cost as option)

CHIPS
Hapertown
E5410 quad 2.33 $256 per 1000 with 12mb
E5430 quad 2.66 $455 per 1000 with 12mb
E5462 quad 3.00 $797 per 1000 with 12mb

Prices?
These are my GUESSES - so relax

Octo 2.33 = $1899
Octo 2.66 = $2399
Octo 3.00 = $2999

What do you think?
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I'm with you. I really hope for a full tech refresh, not just processors. I don't care if they use the same case, but give me eSATA for TimeMachine, at least an ATI 2900 video card, bump up the base RAM (in a quad configuration so you get the full benefit), offer an HD optical drive as an option, bump up the base hard drive configuration. Basically, bring the basic hardware up to current standards and give us the new Penyrn processor. Like many of you on the post, I've been sitting on a couple grand waiting for Leopard and the Mac Pro refresh.

Bottomline--any of you with connections inside :apple: hearing anything more than the processor/new mobo refresh?
 
MacPro's are not noisy (urban myth)

Jade Cambell said:
Mac Pro's do make noise. They are not silent. If you put one in a dead silent room, it would be very loud, and when you put it to sleep, you'd hear the sound in the room die down to real silence. Alot of people live in noisy places, or work in noisy places, so they don't hear the computer, but it definitely is not silent.
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Very few (if any) computers are totally silent.

That being said though, the MacPro is amongst the quietest there is. I think that was the point being made. :)

The original poster seemed to be claiming that the MacPro was some kind of "noise monster" when it certainly is not. The MacPro is one of the quietest computers you can buy. Pretty much every MacPro I have ever seen, you have to bend over and check the lights to see if it's on or not they are so quiet!

All Apple computers are significantly quieter compared to their equivalent Windows boxes. The only exception IMO are X-Serves and RAID's. Those guys sound like someone left the vacuum cleaner on, but then, they are supposed to.
 
I think it is pretty reasonable to assume that this will be a full refresh. Including GPUs, HDs, etc. Considering the age of the Mac Pro, it is expected, and as I stated reasonable.

Woot!

Also, the Mac Pro is indeed super quiet.
 
Including Bluetooth and wireless in the base models would be a nice touch, too. They're such cheap upgrades and already included in all iMacs, it should be a no-brainer.
 
I hope they will not sell it with 1gb ram as standart. I hope for at least 2gb. 4gb should be appropriate for a machine with such a power :)
 
Macrumors said:
...but Apple appears to have the option of a number of dual-core Penryn ("Wolfdale") processors that could find their way into the lower-end Mac Pros.
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longofest said:
Not everyone shopping for a Mac Pro needs the top of the line 8 core machine, but it would be nice if they dropped the entry barrier a bit.
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iZaid said:
if those are the new mac pros, they are still huge, i would of thought :apple: will design something smaller, i mean who the f*** needs 3 TB of hardrive?
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Apple, take a hint!

The gap between iMac and Mac Pro is so huge you could fit two product lines and semi in there.

The above quotations are three good reasons to make a smaller tower. And really there isn't a good reason not to (aside form your monetary greed, aparently). Intel's CPU offerings include a wide range of processors between those in the iMac and those in the Mac Pro. For prosumers, the iMac is too weak, has crappy graphics an NO EXPANDABILITY, meanwhile the MacPro is a waste for doing anything less than video-editing, 3D rendering and Photoshop filtering, simultaneously. Call it hyperbole if you want, but the main point is still true. We aren't all either "idiot consumers" or professionals. Ergo, we need a computer that can fit our needs. Desktop-class processor, video card, a PCI slot or two, extra HDD bay, extra optical bay.

It's not too much to ask so for the love of Trogdor, just do it.

Oh yeah, "please."

-Clive
 
2.5 • 2.8 • 3.2

DrGruv1 said:
My Guesses: In a couple of weeks :)

eSata 500gb standard
4 gig ram standard
Blu-ray
Upgraded video card (don't know enough to say which one)
HDMI
fire 400/800
digital audio - maybe spdif also?
USB 2.0
Included? Wireless/Bluetooth
New Keyboard - full size with numeric entry (possibly the new keyboard where lighted keys change according to application?) (add $200 to cost as option)

CHIPS
Hapertown
E5410 quad 2.33 $256 per 1000 with 12mb
E5430 quad 2.66 $455 per 1000 with 12mb
E5462 quad 3.00 $797 per 1000 with 12mb

Prices?
These are my GUESSES - so relax

Octo 2.33 = $1899
Octo 2.66 = $2399
Octo 3.00 = $2999

What do you think?
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I think your speeds and prices are under the mark. All Dual Quad:

2.5 GHz 1333 MHz FSB $1,999
2.8 GHz 1600 MHz FSB $2,499
3.2 GHz 1600 MHz FSB $3,499

I think while I may be wrong about the exact prices, I feel fairly certain about the speeds.
 
It would be a shame if Apple doesn't release new displays on the same day as this update. I'll have to use my new Mac Pro with a 15" old Apple Studio Display while waiting for the ACD upgrade. Apple has got to do it together, don't you think?
 
Clive At Five said:
We aren't all either "idiot consumers" or professionals. Ergo, we need a computer that can fit our needs. Desktop-class processor, video card, a PCI slot or two, extra HDD bay, extra optical bay.

It's not too much to ask so for the love of Trogdor, just do it.

Oh yeah, "please."

-Clive
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Even though I'm in the need for the Mac Pro, this suggestion seems far from unreasonable to me. I seem to remember back when I was first looking at (dreaming of) getting a G3 tower (couldn't afford even the iMac then...) you could get a more middle-ish of the road machine.

But then, memory is tricky, innit? Regardless, I agree for the most part on the gap between iMac & Mac Pro.
 
sorry, maybe I misunderstood. Somebody here said there is no enclosure redesign. Is that true? As far as I know this still up in the air.

If thy are referring to Multimedia photo on the first page, that looks like a cheap photoshop job IMHO.
 
Multimedia said:
I'm praying for two 2GB sticks as base. But I'm not holding my breath.
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Wouldn't that be something! I am expecting 2x1GB, but we will see. So what do you think, Macworld or before that? It would seem if they want to be first it would need to be sooner.
 
tivoli2 said:
Even though I'm in the need for the Mac Pro, this suggestion seems far from unreasonable to me. I seem to remember back when I was first looking at (dreaming of) getting a G3 tower (couldn't afford even the iMac then...) you could get a more middle-ish of the road machine.

But then, memory is tricky, innit? Regardless, I agree for the most part on the gap between iMac & Mac Pro.
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I know what side of the gap on want to land on :D
 
I agree. I spent 8 years in the record business in the '70's, many concerts and lots of loud music. My hearing probably hasn't been helped by the fact that I use a back-pack blower to clean the leaves up in the yard. The Mac Pro is a very quite machine, especially compared to my previous G5. I am a stickler about keeping the internals of my computers cleaned. About every 3 months I clean the internals which include the fans to ensure that the computer continues to run cool & quite. Do not let anyone fool you that a Mac Pro is dead quite, but they are very, very quite considering what they have inside them.

BTW, I hope they keep the same case, just change the internal workings.

Jade Cambell said:
Mac Pro's do make noise. They are not silent. If you put one in a dead silent room, it would be very loud, and when you put it to sleep, you'd hear the sound in the room die down to real silence. Alot of people live in noisy places, or work in noisy places, so they don't hear the computer, but it definitely is not silent.
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It's about time we got some Mac Pro rumors floating in, and finally something to substantiate our speculation!!!


I only hope and pray that Apple doesn't screw up the video card options. I certainly hope someone is listening on the other end of those Mac Pro feedback forms.

8800GTX please, or one of the new G92's.

Don't screw up the video card options Apple!!!
 
Kingsly said:
Oh please please please be announced next tuesday! For crying out loud Apple, I have a film to edit!! Can't you see that?! :mad:


:rolleyes: :p
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...and I have an album to overdub and mix! Apple should know this by now too. I can barely run 48 track (LE) sessions @ 48k / 24bit on my deisel-powered, louder-than-satan-screaming dual 867 MDD.

If there are any drummers out there, here's Abe Laboriel Jr. cutting drums on one of my songs. I've been sitting on ten drum tracks since August waiting patiently for the Penryn MP to ship.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zNs8NtOa9g
 
MacBook Pro Comes With 1GB Per Core • Mac Pros Need 512MB Per Core Minimum

Jade Cambell said:
The MacBook Pro's have a base Ram of 2GB. The new Mac Pro's will for sure have at least that.
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Zactly. That's why I think the 8 cores might come with two 2GB sticks as a dead minimum since that is half as much ram per core as what the MBPs come with. Any expert user will tell you 8 cores need a minimum of 512MB per core to run efficiently. I will be populating mine with 16GB for sure. So I'd rather not have to toss out two 1GB sticks to do that.

Does anyone have a handle on what the 2GB 800 MHz Xeon type ram sticks will cost us?
 
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