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Penryn Based Mac Pros Soon?

Any chance Apple would drop a bomb and introduce dual 8 core monsters for
a total of 16 cores? :D Multimedia, feel free to help me out here.
 
iZaid said:
if those are the new mac pros, they are still huge, i would of thought :apple: will design something smaller, i mean who the f*** needs 3 TB of hardrive?
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People who work with uncompressed HD video, that's who. I welcome the larger drives but I was hoping the case design would get a little smaller. Those Mac Pro towers are monoliths and they weigh a frickin ton.
 
Rent Short Term?

darthraige said:
Yes sir. Well, only til November. I need one by December or I'm screwed. haha.
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Perhaps you can rent one of the old ones meanwhile. I think they will ship in November. Sales may begin next week. But this guess is based on Intel's permission for Apple to pre-sell it before the November 12 launch. Without that permission we may have to wait 'til then for Apple to even say they are coming. :(
 
capran said:
Well, for me, I'm a PC tech, and I have to use and service Windows at work. Occasionally I get to play with Macs.

At home, I love having a Mac, but I also like to play games, and have a media center. I currently have a Shuttle PC on the HDTV (tried Linux on it for a while, but got frustrated, switched to Windows MCE which is still a bit of a pain but at least most stuff works and I can use Netflix Watch Now and Joost and other such stuff), and a Mini G4 and hacked-together gaming XP PC in the bedroom. I thought about putting the Mini on the TV, but no Netflix, no good media center that I know of (Front Row is on the Intel Mini, and I've gotten it to work on the G4, but it's just too limited. Forget about fullscreen H.264 on a G4! Even the Shuttle has problems.)

I'd love to have a new Mac that'll replace the G4 and the gaming box, but nothing seems to quite cut it unless I spend around $2500 which is just insanely way too much. In truth, there's just not a whole lot I really use the Mac for, but I'd love to get into iLife, maybe even Xcode. But the G4 is just too pokey for me.

In short, I love Macs and OS X, but unfortunately nothing currently available suits my needs and budget.
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Very well said, and I can understand your pain. Personally, I would love to see Apple merge the Mac Mini and Apple TV, making the Apple TV a much better computer, and the mini a much better media center PC.

My situation used to be a budget one. I didn't want to pay the cash for a full Mac Pro (at the time a Power Mac G5) and the iMac (at the time) wasn't much of a work horse. Now that the iMac has stepped up a little bit, and the cash I was saving for the Apple mini tower grew to about the price of a mid range Mac Pro and 23" display.

Marx55 said:
No way, because it mus be quiet. Ultra-quiet. Bedroom-quiet, which the Mac Pro is not! That is why a Mac mini TOWER is needed.
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True.
 
Multimedia said:
Perhaps you can rent one of the old ones meanwhile. I think they will ship in November. Sales may begin next week. But this guess is based on Intel's permission for Apple to pre-sell it before the November 12 launch. Without that permission we may have to wait 'til then for Apple to even say they are coming.
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See this is how lazy I am. I know I should wait, and I'm sure I'm gonna even if it's til January. I have access to a MacPro and 4 G5 Dual 2's here at work. So if I needed to work on something here, I could. But I just want my own and not have to drive to work to do something. haha. I'm sure I will be waiting. I have to. It'll be worth it.

Renting one would be funny... The relationship between Intel and Apple seems to be awesome. I'm sure there will be an announcement next week to hype Leopard even more.
 
Multimedia said:
Zactly. That's why I think the 8 cores might come with two 2GB sticks as a dead minimum since that is half as much ram per core as what the MBPs come with. Any expert user will tell you 8 cores need a minimum of 512MB per core to run efficiently. I will be populating mine with 16GB for sure. So I'd rather not have to toss out two 1GB sticks to do that.

Does anyone have a handle on what the 2GB 800 MHz Xeon type ram sticks will cost us?
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i wouldn't be surprised to see 4X512 (not that i want it that way....)
 
Multimedia said:
I suppose this is a joke post. :rolleyes: No chance. That type of configuration will not be possible for another year or so.
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No joke, I just don't know what the MOBO offering will allow and thought you could shed some educating light.
I know that 16 cores are a push, but you never know. It'd be kinda neat to see a 16 core 3.2 offering.
 
Multimedia said:
Zactly. That's why I think the 8 cores might come with two 2GB sticks as a dead minimum since that is half as much ram per core as what the MBPs come with. Any expert user will tell you 8 cores need a minimum of 512MB per core to run efficiently. I will be populating mine with 16GB for sure. So I'd rather not have to toss out two 1GB sticks to do that.

Does anyone have a handle on what the 2GB 800 MHz Xeon type ram sticks will cost us?
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Check out dealram.com
 
Multimedia said:
Zactly. That's why I think the 8 cores might come with two 2GB sticks as a dead minimum since that is half as much ram per core as what the MBPs come with. Any expert user will tell you 8 cores need a minimum of 512MB per core to run efficiently. I will be populating mine with 16GB for sure. So I'd rather not have to toss out two 1GB sticks to do that.

Does anyone have a handle on what the 2GB 800 MHz Xeon type ram sticks will cost us?
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First and foremost YEEEEE PEEEEE!!!

I hope it's 2GB stick not two 1GB sticks.

Thanks for making me wait Multimedia.
I don't think I can wait anymore after this one.
I'm buying this sucka as soon as it's available.
I just hope the price is right. It better be.
 
$770 Today For A 16GB 667 MHz Kit • Hoping For $999 Per 800 MHz Kit

rockinrocker said:
wait a minute, does this mean they're not going to use DDR2?

eek, i don't wanna have to shell out that much for extra ram.....
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No I'm saying only the SPEED will need to be 800 MHz instead of 667 MHz in today's models. All the other specs will likely stay the same. So I'm wondering what the premium will be for that speed bump. Right now we can fully populate MP with 16GB for $770. I'm hoping the faster RAM won't cost us more than $999 for the 16GB kit.

Just off the phone with Omni Technologies. They think my guess of $999 for the 16 GB Kits is spot on. :) A year from now or sooner they will be back down to the current $770 per 16 GB kit - i.e. Eight 2GB Sticks.

There's also the X-Factor of 4GB sticks coming next year. But when they will cross over as the same price as two 2GB sticks is anyone's guess.
 
Jade Cambell said:
Mac Pro's do make noise. They are not silent. If you put one in a dead silent room, it would be very loud, and when you put it to sleep, you'd hear the sound in the room die down to real silence. Alot of people live in noisy places, or work in noisy places, so they don't hear the computer, but it definitely is not silent.
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I have had a macbook, imac, mac pro located in roughly the same area of my bedroom at different times. When at idle, they are all so quiet that they are practically silent. Frankly the buzzing from the circuitry of my lcd tv is as loud as the noise the machine makes a few feet away. When doing processing (say, encoding a movie to h.264), the macbook is the loudest, imac second loudest, and the mac pro still virtually silent.
 
prices for current machines

Just out of curiosity, if the new machines are at the same relative price points as multimedia lays out, what should used/refurbished versions of the current machines go for?
 
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