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Penryn iMacs Next Tuesday?

iTattoo said:
...aside from sales blips where the fanboys (I count myself in the group) wait for the latest updates, what is the cost/benefit to Apple of constant updates, factoring more platforms to support, engineering costs and marketing costs to change?
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There isn't any. I'm not saying there would be. Apple, however, is a company that claims to be ahead of the pack. To live up to their high standards, the least they should do is keep their units modern. 6 months is roughly a quarter of a Moore's Law cycle which would imply performance increase of at least 25%. This should be the minimum update cycle for any technology company, especially one who claims to be so cutting edge. Apple shouldn't be able to escape such a claim just because 90% of their user-base is ignorant.

Besides, if there weren't fanboys and prosumers keeping companies in check, how would anyone be able to trust that they're actually getting a better product?
 
Clive At Five said:
How is it Intel's fault that Apple hasn't released Penryn iMacs? They're had four months where they could've literally plunked in a Penryn instead of Merom. It's pin-compatible. Instead, they couldn't bring themselves to spend a little bit more to give their customers a better product.
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Yet by waiting four months, they give their customers an even better product then just slapping Penryn in a Santa Rosa motherboard. Especially since Penryn in and of itself doesn't bring much to an iMac. iMac's don't need to save battery life and they have more effective cooling then a MacBook (Pro). Penryn brought benefits to the MacBook (Pro) so it is logical they were updated first.

Montevina will bring the iMac a direct and useful benefit - an 800MHz memory bus.
 
CWallace said:
Yet by waiting four months, they give their customers an even better product then just slapping Penryn in a Santa Rosa motherboard. Especially since Penryn in and of itself doesn't bring much to an iMac. iMac's don't need to save battery life and they have more effective cooling then a MacBook (Pro). Penryn brought benefits to the MacBook (Pro) so it is logical they were updated first.

Montevina will bring the iMac a direct and useful benefit - an 800MHz memory bus.
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While everything you've said is true, there's marketing muscle in greener machines these days, even desktops.

-Clive
 
This is getting embarrassing. I've been waiting to buy 2 new 24" iMacs since Christmas

I'm going to wait one more week and then I'll buy dell workstations and roll out a hackintosh to make sure Apple doesn't get my money this year.
 
Jesus on OSX said:
This is getting embarrassing. I've been waiting to buy 2 new 24" iMacs since Christmas

I'm going to wait one more week and then I'll buy dell workstations and roll out a hackintosh to make sure Apple doesn't get my money this year.
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I've been waiting a long time too. My hackintosh is suddenly starting to take buying priority over a refreshed MacMini.

If you are going to go the Hackintosh route, though, please purchase a legal copy of OS X. It is the right thing to do - even if Apple is being a bunch of limey bastards.

-Clive
 
Jesus on OSX said:
This is getting embarrassing. I've been waiting to buy 2 new 24" iMacs since Christmas

I'm going to wait one more week and then I'll buy dell workstations and roll out a hackintosh to make sure Apple doesn't get my money this year.
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Seriously, I know your frustration but that will be nothing to the endless frustration, annoyance and remorse you will feel the second those crappy Dell's arrive on your doorstop and plague your life for the next three years...

Just have a little faith, sit tight for a while and the proper kit will come forth and you will be happy.
 
Wait no more. This week, iMac will release their latest update. It will be the one of the coolest thing will happen.
 
uglyjerk said:
Wait no more. This week, iMac will release their latest update. It will be the one of the coolest thing will happen.
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Literally, in that the Penryn CPUs will run cooler then the Memroms. :D

Still, the apparent failure to move to the Montevina systemboard is a disappointment. No performance boost in CPU speeds (at the top end), no boost in memory speeds, no boost in FSB speeds and no ability to run the quad-core mobile CPUs. And if they don't move to the ATI 3xxx series GPU, no improvement in GPU performance, either.

Might as well get a refurb of the current model and save a few hundred bucks to put into memory.
 
CWallace said:
Literally, in that the Penryn CPUs will run cooler then the Memroms. :D

Still, the apparent failure to move to the Montevina systemboard is a disappointment. No performance boost in CPU speeds (at the top end), no boost in memory speeds, no boost in FSB speeds and no ability to run the quad-core mobile CPUs. And if they don't move to the ATI 3xxx series GPU, no improvement in GPU performance, either.

Might as well get a refurb of the current model and save a few hundred bucks to put into memory.
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The new mobile ATI and nVidia low and midrange offer no increase or even a performance degradation over their previous line up.
 
They are here.
Pricing in danish kroner (approx 1:5 with the US $)

Geforce 8800GS 512mb in top model.

* 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
* 1GB memory
* 250GB hard drive1
* 8x double-layer SuperDrive
* ATI Radeon HD 2400 XT with 128MB

DKK 7.999,00
1199$

* 2.66GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
* 2GB memory
* 320GB hard drive1
* 8x double-layer SuperDrive
* ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO with 256MB

DKK 9.999,00
1499$

* 2.8GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
* 2GB memory
* 320GB hard drive1
* 8x double-layer SuperDrive
* ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO with 256MB

DKK 11.999,00
1799$

* 3.06GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
* 2GB memory
* 500GB hard drive1
* 8x double-layer SuperDrive
* NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GS with 512MB

DKK 14.639,00
2199$

EDIT: 1 and 2 are 20" - 3 and 4 are 24"
 
Refurbished Alu. 20" iMac here I come. My mom's 17" G5 iMac is really long in the tooth.

Nice update.... those that waited got a really good bump in the high end.

And I am sure that the GFX specialists will start berating Apple for the GFX choice of GFX in the machine. :D
 
Digital Skunk said:
Refurbished Alu. 20" iMac here I come. My mom's 17" G5 iMac is really long in the tooth.

Nice update.... those that waited got a really good bump in the high end.

And I am sure that the GFX specialists will start berating Apple for the GFX choice of GFX in the machine. :D
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Not really. I'm quite content with a 8800GS and 3ghz. I just need to save up some cash and hand down this six month old 20".
 
I'm just glad they gave the new iMac the FSB and memory speed of a Montevina systemboard, even if they are still using (a now tweaked) Santa Rosa.
 
Is the new graphics card finally dual-link DVI compatible (to connect to a 30" cinema display) or did apple choose a version that isn't again just to piss off people who want to use pro hardware on "consumer" computers? :(
 
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