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Penryn iMacs Next Tuesday?

That whole thing about the iMacs original birthday could have some substance behind it.

I wouldn't be surprised if Apple released something just to commemorate the date.
 
Nohg said:
Yeah the first iMac was August 15, I dunno with regard to the announcement of the iMac but it was released, to my knowledge, in August.

If anyone has a line on the potential for a GPU update or card swap (or an idea of what they'd jump to, I'd kill for a 512 card) I'd be very appreciative.
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why would you kill for a 512mb card?
 
eXan said:
lol +1

I'd rather kill for 8800 with 128 MB :rolleyes:
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There'll be no 8800 in updated iMacs: kill, cry, plead, pray or whatever. That's a banker. But if there's no new cards, 512mb VRAM is a certainty in some iMacs.

But I predict new cards. Apple's fantastic discounts on current iMacs have been going for more weeks than I can remember. Either they're desperate to get rid of inventory to boost figures, or new updated iMacs will have something more than all the predictable bumps (Penryn, extra RAM, VRAM & HD space).

The 2400 inside the lower-end 20" iMac is plain embarrassing & should definitely be replaced! Either that, or simply ditch the 20" iMac with 2400 card altogether, then drop the higher-end 20" iMac's price to the low-end price. See recent benchmarks:

VGA Charts.
 
gregorsamsa said:
There'll be no 8800 in updated iMacs: kill, cry, plead, pray or whatever. That's a banker. But if there's no new cards, 512mb VRAM is a certainty in some iMacs.
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I know that. I was just saying that faster card is actually useful, unlike the same card with more memory( which makes no performance boost if we take MBP as an example).
 
eXan said:
I know that. I was just saying that faster card is actually useful, unlike the same card with more memory( which makes no performance boost if we take MBP as an example).
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I know you know. The comment shouldn't have been directed at you & was meant more as a general aside. You're quite right about the negligible effect of extra VRAM for most purposes. Far better a faster card than double the VRAM any day!

FWIW, I'm hoping for a decent 8600 card in the higher-end iMacs... & that the 2400 disappears altogether.
 
gregorsamsa said:
I know you know. The comment shouldn't have been directed at you & was meant more as a general aside. You're quite right about the negligible effect of extra VRAM for most purposes. Far better a faster card than double the VRAM any day!

FWIW, I'm hoping for a decent 8600 card in the higher-end iMacs... & that the 2400 disappears altogether.
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ah, ok then :)
 
259 days and counting...WTF!!

That's nearly nine months...

I'm wanting to buy right now but only an official announcement from Apple that no new macs will ship until September would compel me to cave in and buy 9 months into a cycle...

What's the longest they've gone without updating - anyone know ?
 
surferfromuk said:
259 days and counting...WTF!!

That's nearly nine months...

I'm wanting to buy right now but only an official announcement from Apple that no new macs will ship until September would compel me to cave in and buy 9 months into a cycle...

What's the longest they've gone without updating - anyone know ?
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iMac: The new Mac Pro.
 
surferfromuk said:
259 days and counting...WTF!!

That's nearly nine months...
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Blame Intel if you must blame anyone.

Apple will not ship new machines before Montevina ships from Intel and that happens sometime next month. Add in time to secure product from Intel and build the machines and get them into the channel and a few weeks before or after WWDC are the only dates that make sense logically.
 
CWallace said:
Blame Intel if you must blame anyone.

Apple will not ship new machines before Montevina ships from Intel and that happens sometime next month. Add in time to secure product from Intel and build the machines and get them into the channel and a few weeks before or after WWDC are the only dates that make sense logically.
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I totally agree with your reasoning, and perhaps Apple with get some advance shipments from Intel much like they did with when the MBA arrived on the scene so that they can be first out the door.
 
surferfromuk said:
259 days and counting...WTF!!

That's nearly nine months...

I'm wanting to buy right now but only an official announcement from Apple that no new macs will ship until September would compel me to cave in and buy 9 months into a cycle...

What's the longest they've gone without updating - anyone know ?
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http://www.rhythmac.com/history/imac

Just shy of one year. Although the cycle looks out of the ordinary compared the average in the buyer's guide there were a couple of very short cycles such as when the Intel chips came out that have skewed the average down. Right now the 259 days isn't really that much out of the ordinary if you take into account the "special" circumstances.
 
smeg! So the montevina means July realistically yes ?
In that case anyone care to take a guess at what video card it will have in it ? Is it going to be significantly quicker than what's in the current Macbook Pro ?
 
CWallace said:
Blame Intel if you must blame anyone.
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How is it Intel's fault that Apple hasn't released Penryn iMacs? They're had four months where they could've literally plunked in a Penryn instead of Merom. It's pin-compatible. Instead, they couldn't bring themselves to spend a little bit more to give their customers a better product.

Apple of late is becoming a treacherous profit-at-all-costs machine.

-Clive
 
Clive At Five said:
How is it Intel's fault that Apple hasn't released Penryn iMacs? They're had four months where they could've literally plunked in a Penryn instead of Merom. It's pin-compatible. Instead, they couldn't bring themselves to spend a little bit more to give their customers a better product.

Apple of late is becoming a treacherous profit-at-all-costs machine.

-Clive
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While I agree with you that Apple is ... dare I say it, walking dangerously close to the foot prints of M$ ... recall that 4 months ago was the midst of panic Christmas Shopping, so from a timing perspective not so good - January was MBA and they didn't want to dilute the focus from that, then February was MPB ... and then it gets too close the inevitable next Chip release, and customers get royally POed when updates happen too quickly, as we saw when the intel macs came out on the heels of an update, and when iPhone was "updated" 68 days after its release. The only other feasible option would have been a silent upgrade at Mac World. Your thoughts?
 
iTattoo said:
Your thoughts?
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My thoughts are that 4 months is a long time. Apple could've found *some* time to update the products, if even silently. They can't always be worried about stealing the thunder of some other product. If each of Apple's products had to have a month to itself to celebrate its new stats, we'd have 16-month product cycles.

A silent update at MWSF would've been ample attention and effort to keep it at least modern. The poor MacMini, however, doesn't even have Santa Rosa. Now that is an insult.

-Clive
 
Clive At Five said:
My thoughts are that 4 months is a long time. Apple could've found *some* time to update the products, if even silently. They can't always be worried about stealing the thunder of some other product. If each of Apple's products had to have a month to itself to celebrate its new stats, we'd have 16-month product cycles.

A silent update at MWSF would've been ample attention and effort to keep it at least modern. The poor MacMini, however, doesn't even have Santa Rosa. Now that is an insult.

-Clive
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Ok, so how do we get jobs at AAPL in the marketing / engineering departments?

Agreed that the updates are far and long in between, and the mini is not really a viable option in its current price/configuration model. However - I know I just waited and bought my current iMac on the day of release - Apple still got my money, and aside from sales blips where the fanboys (I count myself in the group) wait for the latest updates, what is the cost/benefit to Apple of constant updates, factoring more platforms to support, engineering costs and marketing costs to change? Most Mac users will wait ... we're a captive market and SJ knows it.
 
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