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People who do not want to jailbreak their phones

marksman said:
Having both a 1st and 2nd generation phone, I can say simply because I have never felt a need to do so.

My experimental hacking days are for the most part behind me. I am not really interested in turning my iPhone into a guinea pig for 3 frat brothers in a barn. I actually depend upon it to help me run my business, and having something untoward happen that required my time and attention to revert at an inopportune time simply was never worth whatever program someone might have been offering out there.

Short answer my phone is more important to me as a tool that I would not risk/sacrifice it for the chance to make some homemade icons, ringtones and wallpapers.

If I was at a time in my life where my iPhone was just a toy then I would probably have no problems jailbreaking it and playing around with all the programs available... but again.. not a toy.
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I also completely agree. I used to build my own pc's, hack XBoxes (soldering in Xecuter chips) etc.

Now I just want to use the stuff to get other things done, not turn the tool into a hobby. So now I just use Mac's and AppleTV's in place of the above and they just do the job out of the box. So does the iPhone.

I actually find the iPhone does what I want and does it beautifully. I don't want the other 'features' offered by hacking, so why would I bother?
 
I never wanted to hack mine either. It's perfect the way it is and with the app store, there is no reason to hack the phone.

I have a BlackBerry that I sometimes use and even it is boring even with the ability to change themes. That would be the only good reason to hack a iPhone but even then I don't want to.
 
The option of tethering via Netshare (or any other apps) is very appealing, and would be my main reason for JB'ing my iphone 3G. My only hesitations:

1. Bricking the phone, rendering my warranty useless
2. Accidentally damaging the female input on the phone, which would not let me plug my phone in for a restore
3. Having to re-organize and tag 14 GB of music on the phone.

I'm aware that number 1 is paranoia, and number 3 is laziness, but number 2 actually happened to me. (Apple gave me a new phone free of charge, but he managed to plug it in and do the diagnostic. )
 
SpaceKitty said:
I never wanted to hack mine either. It's perfect the way it is and with the app store, there is no reason to hack the phone.
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Meh, this is a subjective and ultimately pointless topic to discuss. While you have no reason, others do. The argument that "there's nothing worthwhile to JB for" is also subjective.

Personally I don't consider the lack of video recording, the utter lack of any type of customization, and the absence of a tethering option as constituting a "perfect" phone.
 
steamed.hams said:
The option of tethering via Netshare (or any other apps) is very appealing, and would be my main reason for JB'ing my iphone 3G. My only hesitations:
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I bought the orig Netshare back when it was on the store. It isn't that good, can't charge the phone while using it, slow speed, only proxy and unreliable.

I wish Apple would just release some good way to tether without proxies and using the USB cable.
 
rollingstart said:
Meh, this is a subjective and ultimately pointless topic to discuss. While you have no reason, others do. The argument that "there's nothing worthwhile to JB for" is also subjective.

Personally I don't consider the lack of video recording, the utter lack of any type of customization, and the absence of a tethering option as constituting a "perfect" phone.
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But the OP was asking why people don't want to jailbreak. Of course other people do but that's not what this thread was about. The OP asked, I answered.
 
Posted this in a different thread, but it seems useful here:

"Everytime I jailbreak... I have this vision that I'm going to find some really cool stuff for my iPhone and make it better... and every single time, I poke around, install crap, use it for a few minutes... and then I restore my iPhone to an official firmware. Then, all is better. Jailbreaking always seems like it has promise, but when you finally do it... you get disappointed and ultimately a slower phone... and the iPhone doesn't need to go slower than it already does."

That's how I feel about jailbreaking. Also, it kinda bothers me that I don't know where all the files from the jailbreak are being scattered all over my iPhone. It used to be fun to jailbreak back in my iPod touch days on 1.1.x, but with the App Store, there's plenty of things to do.

Before the App Store I would jailbreak to get:

VNC
Colloquy
Mobile Chat (AIM)
Sketches

Now without jailbreaking I can get:

VNC (Jaadu VNC)
Colloquy (Colloquy)
AIM (BeeJive, AIM, MobileChat)
Sketches (Sketches)

...AND MORE
 
If somebody developed a SBSettings for the App store, I'd restore and never look back. I'm sure Apple's guidelines prevent it for some ridiculous reason though. :rolleyes:
 
PDAnet.

That was really my ONLY reason that I jailbroke my iPhone... So I can tether it :)

I actually purchased NetShare as well... But it disappeared o_O
 
The best thing I ever did was to JB. The phone's so boring without it. The lag is not that noticeable to me.
 
I jailbroke but wasn't happy with the speed or the glitches it introduced (more crashes, even the slightest tap set off the icons wobbling to move them).

I did like FiveIconDock and the ability to put info onto the unlock screen, but that was all.

So I decided to un-jailbreak by doing a full restore. This did NOT return me to factory settings, though since the Emoji characters are still usable and the Stocks app is still hidden.

Clearly, a full restore doesn't start the phone from scratch as those jailbreak patches are still in there...
 
!!11oneone said:
I jailbroke but wasn't happy with the speed or the glitches it introduced (more crashes, even the slightest tap set off the icons wobbling to move them).

I did like FiveIconDock and the ability to put info onto the unlock screen, but that was all.

So I decided to un-jailbreak by doing a full restore. This did NOT return me to factory settings, though since the Emoji characters are still usable and the Stocks app is still hidden.

Clearly, a full restore doesn't start the phone from scratch as those jailbreak patches are still in there...
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They would have been unhidden if you had set it up as a new phone. Also a dfu restore couldn't hurt too. :)
 
jmann4489 said:
They would have been unhidden if you had set it up as a new phone. Also a dfu restore couldn't hurt too. :)
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That's because you restored to a backup which restores all of your settings. Emoji icons are just a preference edit. Also, the SpringBoard layout is just a preference file too. All of these things get restored if you restore to a backup that has those preferences modified.
 
The main reason I jailbroke was to get Categories, so I could organize my app icons into folders. Then I discovered SBSetting, which makes using the Touch/iPhone extremely covenient. I also love AppBackup, which lets me backup and restore data for each individual app, one at a time. The latest app update overwrote my data? No problem, just restore the data for that one app!

These jailbroken utility apps reminds me of the early days of Windows, when we spent a lot of time hunting down utility apps that should have been part of the OS to begin with. Microsoft eventually got their act together and bundled these utilities with Windows. Hopefully Apple will do the same.

But to get back on topic, a lot of people who don't jailbreak give as their main reason that there are no useful apps that are available only through jailbreak. That, imo, is simply not true. Jailbreaking or not is a personal choice, and I respect the decision of those who chose not to, but I feel many people are making that decision based on wrong/incomplete information.
 
Acronym said:
i had a jailbroken ipod touch and i liked being able to customise the outlook of the ipodtouch im not one for apples bland backgrounds and icons so i jailbroke my phone for just that purpose in my opinion you cant beat a super mario brothers sms layout screen and monty python sms sounds but to each his own.

if you jailbreak thats fine if you dont thats also fine, what ever makes you happy with your iphone



you dont need to JB to make custom ringtones
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Yeah but you used to, and it was one of the early reasons people jailbroke the first phones. Probably the main reason initially.
 
If I was at a time in my life where my iPhone was just a toy then I would probably have no problems jailbreaking it and playing around with all the programs available... but again.. not a toy.
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See that's exactly why I jailbroke my phone. I wanted an SSH client, wget, curl, netcat, ping, traceroute, dig, etc. as they're quite useful to folks like me. Jailbreaking made my phone a more useful tool.

Then again, I accept that most users have no interest in the various CLI binaries available via Cydia, etc. and are really just looking for flashy things. Fair enough. I just wanted to point out that not everyone who jailbreaks does so because their iPhone is a toy.
 
I jaibroke my first gen ipod touch simply to get the iphone apps, I wanted mail, calender with a plus button, and maps. Then I jailbroke my 1st gen iphone so I could unlock it to use another carrier. When i got my 3g I jailbroke it because I had always had a jailbroken device so it was almost normal, but with the 3g contract and the app store I see no need to jailbreak. I would love themes and a video recorder but the stability of the phone with out the jailbreak is so much better that a few new icons are not worth the little slowdowns that the jailbreak brings to the table.
 
Gotrpms said:
I jaibroke my first gen ipod touch simply to get the iphone apps, I wanted mail, calender with a plus button, and maps. Then I jailbroke my 1st gen iphone so I could unlock it to use another carrier. When i got my 3g I jailbroke it because I had always had a jailbroken device so it was almost normal, but with the 3g contract and the app store I see no need to jailbreak. I would love themes and a video recorder but the stability of the phone with out the jailbreak is so much better that a few new icons are not worth the little slowdowns that the jailbreak brings to the table.
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Quoted for the truth.
 
marksman said:
Having both a 1st and 2nd generation phone, I can say simply because I have never felt a need to do so.

My experimental hacking days are for the most part behind me. I am not really interested in turning my iPhone into a guinea pig for 3 frat brothers in a barn. I actually depend upon it to help me run my business, and having something untoward happen that required my time and attention to revert at an inopportune time simply was never worth whatever program someone might have been offering out there.

Short answer my phone is more important to me as a tool that I would not risk/sacrifice it for the chance to make some homemade icons, ringtones and wallpapers.

If I was at a time in my life where my iPhone was just a toy then I would probably have no problems jailbreaking it and playing around with all the programs available... but again.. not a toy.
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Good post! The iPhone for me is no longer a toy as well. It's a tool I use for every day life.

Jailbreaking is great for those who like to tinker so if you have the time, go for it.
 
ppc750fx said:
See that's exactly why I jailbroke my phone. I wanted an SSH client, wget, curl, netcat, ping, traceroute, dig, etc. as they're quite useful to folks like me. Jailbreaking made my phone a more useful tool.

Then again, I accept that most users have no interest in the various CLI binaries available via Cydia, etc. and are really just looking for flashy things. Fair enough. I just wanted to point out that not everyone who jailbreaks does so because their iPhone is a toy.
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Fair enough. The problem is you have to vet those programs yourself for reliability. I suspect once you had those tools working for you and your system stability locked down you were less likely to add the random program on there in the case that it might mess things up.

Of course I could be wrong.

I did mention if there was something special that I felt I needed and could not live without I might have tried it and still would, but that has never been the case. When people take about SBsettings or whatever being some great reason to jailbreak I crack up.

An example of something that might make me switch would be a specific app that helped me work. Like I just got an application from one of the companies I do a lot of business with.. It is a total interface into my data and reporting system with them. I used to use the web interface on the phone but this is much better. It was just released in the application store. Had they gone another route and not gone through the app store, I might jailbreak the phone to use it, because one the company has a vested interest in not making me mad/disrupting my phone so feedback and issues and problems are likely to be dealt with quickly, and the tool is useful enough to change.

I just never have had that tipping point tool. The things you listed are good, and perhaps helped you a lot, many of them are available via apps in the appstore now, which helps. Again though, I suspect if you really use them and make money on their back that you are careful in what else you do. If not, you will learn.

I don't want people to think I am some sort of elitist. I learned through expeirence. I used to monkey around and beta test everything. The umpteenth time my tinkering led me to extra busy work in a time crunch of time of crisis is when I finally decided I could not really take those risks with things that were necessary and mission critical.
 
I don't see why anyone would care what someone else does with their property. Personally, i don't jailbreak because I don't want to. good enough reason?
 
Oskee2001 said:
I don't see why anyone would care what someone else does with their property. Personally, i don't jailbreak because I don't want to. good enough reason?
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yes it is. I cant believe this is really a thread. When I buy and own something i will do whatever I want with it.
 
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