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I'm curious if those that jailbroke their phones looked into the third party developers before they let them make changes and download files to their phones.

Apple can delete apps remotely...I wonder what quickpwn can do remotely?

It seems like there might be a hidden cost to jailbreaking. Your pirvacy.

People who would blindly install software on their 300$+ piece of electronics that happens to carry personal/sensitive data deserve what happens to them should their privacy ever be invaded. As with most things in life, if you know what you're doing, you have nothing to worry about. ;)

That aside, i was one of those who NEVER wanted to jailbreak. I loved my iPhone when i got it, never had problems, tons of apps, excellent performance....very reliable. As time went on, i simply just...got bored with stock. I just like tinkering around with computers and such so it was probably inevitable that i just did it for kicks anyways. And after doing weeks, yes, WEEKS of research on everything that had to do with jailbreaking, i took the dive cause i figured, if i mess it up, what would i lose by restoring and then restoring my backup that i made right before my jailbreak attempt?

Some of these apps that offer a little more functionality to my phone are extremely important to my personal taste, as is having complete access to my phone. Yes, there is a little, and i repeat, a LITTLE more lag, but it's so negligible that i don't even notice it (and neither do my friends who are on stock). It's really hard to explain and try to convey what being jailbroken means to someone who isn't jailbroken...i know, cause i didn't want to jailbreak in the first place. You simply have to try it for yourself, and just try some of the apps that people here have talked about and form your own conclusions then. But i totally understand and respect those that would never want to jailbreak :)

As for me, i personally could never go back to stock.
 
It's buggy. I'm thinking of unjailbreaking soon as apps take longer to boot, and the performance is just more glitchy and beta-like overall. It's not as clean and snappy as unjailbroken, but there are nice apps.

My experience has been the same. The only compelling reason now for most people to jailbreak is themes, and that's the app that can really cause problems. I went back to vanilla fw and I dont regret it at all.
 
I'm curious if those that jailbroke their phones looked into the third party developers before they let them make changes and download files to their phones.

Apple can delete apps remotely...I wonder what quickpwn can do remotely?

It seems like there might be a hidden cost to jailbreaking. Your pirvacy.

Well, for me, that's not a problem. I mean, what are they going to do? read my texts? see what websites I visit?

And it's not that good idea to have valuable information in a place other tan your head. Iphones could be easily stolen, and there would be no way for you to delete the important, and private information (Debit card pin, banking aacounts, stuff like that)

So I don't have that problem, all my info is stored in the safest place, my brain, and would never risk putting it on a phone, or a any other portable device
 
The good money I paid for my iPhone both Classic and 3G was well spent and it is well used WITHOUT altering the way that it was designed to work. When and if Apple decides to add more options then I will update and use those options.

I do not need to hack to enjoy it and I took offense at your use of "dumbass" and the context that it was used. I am sick of hackers, and programmers that try to steal, vandalize, change and try to incapacitate everyday computers with their stinkin virus's, keyloggers, spam, cheats, spyware etc.

Some of us are not content with the options that Apple has allowed us to use on OUR phones. You're painting programmers in a very bad light and with little to no good reason. Programmers are responsible for the message board that you're reading right now. Programmers are responsible for the vanilla phone that you're so in love with right now. Those of us who make modifications to our phones are not necessarily stealing, vandalizing or incapacitating anything. We're not all writing virii, keyloggers, spam, cheats, spyware, etc. Some of us simply want to make things better.

There is a ton of functionality in the iPhone that's missing with the standard load. It reaches far beyond changing the theme or the carriers logo. If you can't understand those concepts, then I agree that jailbreaking is not for you (please note that's not intended to be condescending). I am a computer nerd... I make a living being a computer nerd, it's not just a hobby. As a result, I use my jailbroken phone to conduct important business for a multi-billion dollar communications company. I couldn't do many of the things that I can now if the phone was not jailbroken and I'd be less productive.

Aside from that, many of us just like to tinker.. it's fun and we learn something while doing it. Those of us who are not stealing appstore apps aren't hurting anybody. The hostility is not necessary. You don't want to jailbreak? Great! But, there is no reason to pop-off at and act mightier than somebody who does.
 
Forget about all the themes and everything...it's the functionality!

I can use multiple programs at the same time! I don't have to quit apps when I receive an email or sms. I can keep my IM app running in the background!

I have first gen iphone, 3G and ipod touch, all jailbroken...wouldn't have it any other way!
 
Would you buy a laptop that won't allow you change wallpaper, won't allow you to personalize any settings, won't allow you to install programs the manufacturer disapprove?

Higher the price tag, more the reason to jailbreak it.
 
I don't jailbreak because I don't really have any desire for anything that isn't available from the app store except for things that only apple can provide (cut and paste, landscape email and sms).
 
openssh/terminal/bossprefs are enough reasons for me to jailbreak. Most of the apps were released for jailbroken phones long before there was even an appstore.

I understand that some people might be "afraid" of jailbreaking their gear but what I don't get is sometimes the hate toward the whole process/devteam. The sheer amount of apps that was released during the 114 era (with zero support from Apple) was astounding, and Apple did take notice. Jailbreaking is one of the reasons why we have an Appstore now.
 
I don't jailbreak because I don't really have any desire for anything that isn't available from the app store except for things that only apple can provide (cut and paste, landscape email and sms).
Shows how much you know. The three examples you listed have all been accomplished by non-Apple developers.
 
Firstly let me ad my two cents to the situation. i jailbroke my first iphone (GEN 1) simply because i live in australia so i did jailbreak and unlock to use it. since buying my iphone 3G i have kept the 1st gen iphone as a phone and currently use the iphone 3G as a data phone/internet browser because it is on a plan and i dont wanna be paying monthly for no reason. so i have kept my iphone un-jailbroken but i take advantage of the iphone 1st gen simply for the reason (take note bergerfan) of video recording with cycorder and also for other handy apps like mxtube/statusbar notifier/lockdock bar/backgrounder/sbsettings. all of which run very nicely and all worth investing in for any jailbreakers. (also the free versions of app store apps is good to have.)

I'm considering jailbreaking for basically three apps and one reason:
* I want an app that will: let's me have wallpapers on my homescreen, have basic video & photo camera options and one that'll let me save cached videos.

The reason is, that I don't think Apple gives a damn about jailbreaking, only unlocking. Hence the reason that every 2.x firmware has been jailbroken relatively quickly, whilst unlocking is still not possible.

Anyone know what are the best Cydia/Installer apps for what I need?

As for this i think youll notice that if you studied anything or kept up to date at all youd know that the 1st gen iphone can still be unlocked on 2.x. The issue is with the iphone 3G not being unlocked yet. so your theory is wrong because they obviously dont care any more than before about the unlocking otherwise theyd have made another bricking trick on the unlocked 1st gen phones. the iphone 3g not being jailbroken is simply because its a new and different thing. it took a few months last year to get any progress on hacking the iphone. why should this completely new hardware be any different? my point really is that some things are easier than others and i doubt that apple doesnt care about either its more along the lines of jailbreaking the iphone 3g was easier than unlocking it.

its the baseband that is the issue not 2.x
 
I have to say ... after seeing my iPhone jailbroken, the last thing i wanted to do was put it back in Jail :rolleyes:

The battery life of my phone declined so rapidly that i had to switch back after only two days (so bad that my battery was fully charged before i went sleep .... woke up and it was below 10%). Before everyone with a jailbroken phone starts telling me i needed to play around with the seetings ... my settings where as follows:

- Wifi off
- Location Services off
- 3G on
- EDGE on
- SSH - off
- No Backgrounder installed

So everyone who doesn't want to Jailbreak simply because they are worried about their phone ... don't be. Its soooo easy to jailbreak that its not even funny!!! :eek:

Having said that, i restored the phone to its original firmware since i noticed my battery life drop faster than Amir Khan against Breidis Prescott ...

:apple: KrayzieKray :apple:
 
maybe you have a battery problem on your phone..because

I have status Notify.
I have Backgounder
I have Key vibration
I have winterboard
I have SSH
and my battery is not that bad at all... i have to charge just once a day

and believe me i use my phone alot
 
I was one of those anti-jailbreak people. I was always the one who wanted to keep their iPhone clean and vanilla.

Well I jailbroke my iPhone last week and I LOVE IT. I can do so much more now. All of the iPhone restrictions...gone. The funny thing is, I don't even theme my iPhone. It looks pretty much stock. I just changed my font and docks. I just take advantage of the great apps inside Cydia.

Snapture - Much better than the stock camera
Cycorder - I CAN RECORD VIDEOS!
NES Emulator - Need I say more?
BossPrefs - All your handy toggles one click away.
Backgrounder - Allows me to run things in the background and not feel so restricted.
PdaNet - 3G tethering to my laptop is awesome when I am traveling.

After jailbreaking, I am 100 times happier with my iPhone.
 
I have to say ... after seeing my iPhone jailbroken, the last thing i wanted to do was put it back in Jail :rolleyes:

The battery life of my phone declined so rapidly that i had to switch back after only two days (so bad that my battery was fully charged before i went sleep .... woke up and it was below 10%). Before everyone with a jailbroken phone starts telling me i needed to play around with the seetings ... my settings where as follows:

- Wifi off
- Location Services off
- 3G on
- EDGE on
- SSH - off
- No Backgrounder installed

So everyone who doesn't want to Jailbreak simply because they are worried about their phone ... don't be. Its soooo easy to jailbreak that its not even funny!!! :eek:

Having said that, i restored the phone to its original firmware since i noticed my battery life drop faster than Amir Khan against Breidis Prescott ...

:apple: KrayzieKray :apple:

Then there is something wrong. I have backgrounder, always leave wifi and location services and SSH on (although SSH is only running when needed) and I spend a lot of time on my phone every day..... I do not have the battery problems that you are reporting.
 
Then there is something wrong. I have backgrounder, always leave wifi and location services and SSH on (although SSH is only running when needed) and I spend a lot of time on my phone every day..... I do not have the battery problems that you are reporting.

Hmmmmm ... okay then, seems like I'm gunna re-jailbrake mine and see how things are ... loved the apps and am finding it difficult to go back to stock.

Having said that i don't think there's anything wrong with my battery as i can get upto 2 days worth outta my battery (jail bound firmware) with considerable use (ipod, calls, facebook, msn ... mainly [and push email on]).

Will let you guys know how things go :D

:apple: KrayzieKray :apple:
 
I have jailbroke and restored my iPhone twice. Why? Because when my iPhone is jailbroken, it lags more, it crashes more and I can't be bothered messing around with it.
 
Then there is something wrong. I have backgrounder, always leave wifi and location services and SSH on (although SSH is only running when needed) and I spend a lot of time on my phone every day..... I do not have the battery problems that you are reporting.

Okay ... so i jailbroke my iPhone again last night with the phone battery about 85% full. Left the phone on all night expecting the battery to be flat by the time i woke up.

Funny thing happened, woke up and battery life was pretty much the same as i left it last night .... been using the phone all day and still not even half way yet. Don't know why this could be. The only thing i did different was doing a DFU restore before this jailbreak (to put the original firmware on).

I still haven't installed Backgrounder, as i'm not sure how i would select which apps i want running in the background and those that I don't. Also, how would i uninstall the Backgrounder app if i do install it. I don't think i remember seeing a Backgrounder.app file when i ssh'ed into my phone last time?

Still to early to tell whether the battery life is better, but it does seem ALOT better then last time.

:apple: KrayzieKray :apple:
 
Really?? Its voids the warranty!!?? It can't be traced.. Ive had Apple replace several of my jailbroken iPhones... I always restored the firmware before shipping them off though.. I mean, the risk of getting caught is like, slim to none!

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@Hudzilla
Ahh, great point. I had never though of that..

You seem like a real nice and honest person.
 
The one thing that bothers me the most (besides no MMS and no A2DP support) is with Safari. When having a graphic intesive page open and I click on a link which opens another tab, once I'm done with that tab and close it and go back to my original tab, it reloads the whole page taking sometimes up to a minute to do so!!

Is there any hack if I were to jailbreak my phone to have the original tab stay in cache instead of having to reload it? If this is possible, I'm jailbreaking right now...

Bueller...Bueller?
 
Jailbreaking my iPhone was the best thing I have eve done to it for these reasons: video recorder along with streaming video onto qik.com, customizable backgrounds and icons, all the NES ROMs, crash bandicoot and monkeyball for free, and snapture an amazing camera app along with plenty others I am sure I'm forgetting.

Posted from the iPhone
 
I never seriously considered jailbreaking until I read this thread. But I stream a lot of audio, and it's really annoying to have to stop the stream every time I need to do anything else on the phone. The possibility of running apps in the background was just too tempting to pass up. The jailbreaking process was easy and seemingly idiot-proof. Thus far, I haven't noticed any problems with other apps, but I'll certainly update this if I do.

The more I think about it, the more this solution makes sense to me. Apple wants to retain control of the iPhone experience for the majority of users. But some of us, who are used to the greater customizability of Windows Mobile want to be able to tweak settings and use grey-market apps. Jailbreaking let's us do that but makes it just enough of a hassle that the majority of users won't be tempted to deviate from Apple's preferred experience.
 
Jailbreaking is over rated.

And sorry I just think that anyone who says that it doesn't slow down their iPhone doesn't have a clue what they're talking about.
 
Jailbreaking is over rated.

And sorry I just think that anyone who says that it doesn't slow down their iPhone doesn't have a clue what they're talking about.

It's okay. No apologies needed. I, for one, understand that anybody who doesn't share your exact experience is ignorant. :rolleyes:

My jailbroken iPhone runs perfect because I don't bog it down with useless crap. The sole reason I did the jailbreak on my 3G was for SBSettings. The ability to toggle all of the battery drainers from the springboard when they're (not) needed is priceless.
 
Jailbreaking is over rated.

And sorry I just think that anyone who says that it doesn't slow down their iPhone doesn't have a clue what they're talking about.

+1

hated the extra lag, and updating firmware was a nightmare.

After jailbreaking I found I was was spending more time "organizing" my phone than I was using it. Too nerdy for me (no offense.)

I went back because I like the simplicity. I don't want a little computer, already have one. I want a sweet phone.
 
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