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People Who Don't Eat Eggs.
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Just an FYI:
You’re going to create confusion in your own thread, when you retracted statements in your opening post, [which you edited after the fact] So in the future, you should add add ‘edit’ into your post that you removed some of your initial statements. If you backtrack things that you said, others are commenting on things that you specifically retracted. Seems you’re a bit unsure of what you’re talking about.
I edited grammar mistakes that's all. The rest still stands. I also added few points i forget to post. Pretty straight forward thread. I laughed at that "egg-cited" (excited) thing, absolutely wasn't making fun of anyone if that's what you getting at. Every post is valuable and appreciated.
Your post is pointless because you failed to quote me, you just said things to discredit what i said. Relax its only eggs, its not rocket science 🙂
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That's not the bottom line, that's more like just a part of the picture.
Efter getting stabbed by a knife laced with vitamins you wouldn't go "the bottom line is that these vitamins are good for me"… to take an extreme example.
At the end of the day where we at with food science today, and more importantly what's actually available to easily buy, it is a perfectly equivalent option to be vegan; even for what are extreme athletes.
I feel like I can taste the suffering of the animals, and the suffering tastes good!!
I would never openly say that I'm trying to go vegan because I feel for the animals if comments like yours actually got to me, because there's always at least one person like you; that obviously get some sort of pleasure out of trying to trigger someone else's pain/sadness by making them think about suffering animals.
It always makes me curious, though; I always end up wondering if them getting pleasure out of that is some sort of psychopathy, some weird sexual problem, or maybe they act out because they got abused as children, or just feel small in real life. There just has to be something that's making them feel better by making other people sad by this weird "I like animals getting tortured" flex.
Going out of one's way to get some sort of pleasure/kick out of making others sad about suffering animals just seems like something a normal person wouldn't do; I at least would like to think that the normal person isn't that much of a psychopath/lacking empathy and sympathy. Sadly it would explain the current state of the world, though. 🤷
Perhaps you could, if it doesn't feel too personal for you, share what it was that gave you pleasure about doing that in this case?
I would find that very interesting, and it absolutely would fit in with OPs question about how people do or don't eat eggs; perhaps you while eating eggs even prefer to think of them as early stage animals?
LOL...so you’re equating eating an egg with getting stabbed?
What a straw man argument.
I recall a conversation with one of my vegan colleagues about eggs. She (millennial snow flake we will call her!) told me eggs were really bad for the chickens and the environment.
I counted with how many chickens would be alive in the UK if nobody ate eggs? Also a chicken producing eggs locally is surly better for the environment than shipping an avocado from the other side of the globe.
Apparently I was wrong though! Funny that isn't it?
I counted with how many chickens would be alive in the UK if nobody ate eggs? Also a chicken producing eggs locally is surly better for the environment than shipping an avocado from the other side of the globe.
Apparently I was wrong though! Funny that isn't it?
Pretty much everything these days "is bad for the environment". I'm sure someone could come up with a scenario where posting on a forum is "is bad for the environment". Anyway, I prefer to get my health advice from someone who isn't vegan.
So you're saying chickens should be grateful to us for keeping them in torturous conditions and mutilating them to extract their eggs, because if we didn't they wouldn't be alive to enjoy those conditions in the first place?
Interesting point.
All the fish I've eaten in my life, not a single cod has ever come up and thanked me for the continued existence of its species. Ungrateful little bastards.
Probably. It depends how you run those calculations. It's not an easy thing to work out. A chicken with its beak and feet and wings clipped off, kept in a tiny cage in a factory and fed mush and hormones so it produces an egg a day? Sure, there's probably less environmental impact there, but what about the moral choice you're making to put an animal in those conditions?
A whole bunch of free range hens, kept in open space and fed corn and producing far fewer eggs at a far higher cost to both the farmer, the consumer, and the environment? Less so. Avocados are far easier to grow and don't require much cruelty.
If you only want to talk about shipping, then yeah, you're right, but you'd be deliberately missing half of your own argument just to score points. If you weigh the cost of producing and growing and shipping a cruelty-free avocado against the cost of producing and shipping a cruelty-free egg, you're making a much fairer comparison, and then I expect there's not a lot of difference.
I refuse to use paper anymore. Too much pain for the trees. As for eggs, they were never alive to begin with ... so I eat them gleefully and enjoy it.
I prefer to use my common sense and make my own decisions. I've always eaten meat and eggs and I see no chance of that changing.
Cod are self sufficient and quite happy swimming in the sea. Pretty sure none of the farms around where I live would continue to keep their chickens if no one bought eggs. Not all chickens are kept in torturous conditions.
I agree, although I am doing my best to reduce the amount of meat and animal produce I consume, I don't think I will ever stop doing so completely.
But I still object to dressing that up as "common sense" (clearly the common sense thing to do is choose the cheapest, most nutritious, most environmentally friendly option, which is almost never going to be an animal product), and to characterising those who want to make a change as "snowflakes".
Sure, keep eating meat and eggs. But at least try to reckon with and consider the impact of it. Don't try and justify it through strawman arguments and tedious generational insults.
Nothing in my post suggests that I think you did say that? I offered two different scenarios, one where eggs are more environmentally friendly but more cruel, one where they're worse for the environment but cruelty free. You can choose whichever of those best fits your consumption.
The insult was due to that persons point of view. Despite being half my age and a lot less life experience, she knows better than everyone else. Most vegans I've met are like that. We can all pick faults with each others environmental choices. Do I eat meat? Yes. But not much. We have half a chicken breast between us most days as my wife has a very limited food pallet due to medical issues.
Have I ever used hair straignters? No. See we all do good and bad.
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Yes i believe chickens are horribly violated to give us eggs especially in most third world countries.
- It requires electricity.
- Most keyboards are made with plastic.
- Screens are part of light pollution.
Please tell your vegan friend that she should be ashamed of herself for being so cruel to plants...
Well... there ya go
I guess we shouldn't go on picnics anymore, because the forks and knives are made out of plastic...
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Well said.
I'll just add in how great eggs (and dairy) are at promoting the growth of EBV in the body. Understanding what that meant made it easier to finally eliminate it from the diet.