People Who Don't Eat Eggs.

[Scepticalscribe]

This thread is PRSI bound...

I hope not.

While I deplore battery hen farming - it is bad for the environment, awful for the hens, - the conditions in such battery cages are both shocking and shameful - and, in the final test of taste, such eggs fall far short and fail the taste test - but I do eat eggs.

Actually, I love eggs, that is, proper, flavoursome, free range eggs. And, for all of the reasons already stated, I will never buy battery hen eggs.

Moreover, while I have some sympathy for a vegetarian world view - I eat little meat, and what little meat I do eat is locally sourced and ethically reared - I would never become a vegan; this is because I have absolutely no intention of eliminating either cheese or eggs from my diet. Ever.

My ethical compromise is to buy organic, free range eggs, usually locally sourced (I buy them in the local farmers' market) from people who keep hens, and sell their eggs, and thus, who treat them with respect.

Thus, whatever money changes hands goes to someone who has put in time, and resources to treat their hens properly - in other words, small farms, not industrial enterprises; the eggs are local, and come from free range hens that have been raised ethically with an eye to environmental concerns.

 

[Mac... nificent]

My ethical compromise is to buy organic, free range eggs, usually locally sourced (I buy them in the local farmers' market) from people who keep hens, and thus, who treat them with respect.

I believe those eggs are healthier too, so it's win-win 👍

Eggs are one of the few foods that contain naturally occurring vitamin D (24.5 grams).

Eggs are good for your eyes because they contain lutein and zeaxanthin, antioxidants found in your lens and retina.

Eggs may help promote healthy hair and nails due to their high sulphur content.

A study shows that women who ate at least 6 eggs weekly reduced their risk of breast cancer by a whopping 44 percent.

 

[Healer Flame]

Eggs are one of the few foods that contain naturally occurring vitamin D (24.5 gramNhNhprhh

Problem is there is too much human interference with the natural breeding process of the chickens, so i don't think genetically manipulated eggs are that healthy unlike sea creatures in which human interference is limited. No wonder why seafood is very healthy.

 

[Mac... nificent]

unlike sea creatures in which human interference is limited. No wonder why seafood is very healthy.

Yeah... I just love all those toxins...

 

[Healer Flame]

Yeah... I just love all those toxins...

What is a balanced diet, and how can people create one?

A balanced diet fulfils all of a person’s nutritional needs and includes foods from the 5 essential food groups. Learn more about building a healthful, balanced diet here.

www.medicalnewstoday.com

Study: People Who Eat More Fish Live Longer

Members of the 64-and-older set whose blood is rich in dietary omega-3s lived an average of 2.2 years longer.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[Apple fanboy]

What is a balanced diet, and how can people create one?

A balanced diet fulfils all of a person’s nutritional needs and includes foods from the 5 essential food groups. Learn more about building a healthful, balanced diet here.

www.medicalnewstoday.com

Study: People Who Eat More Fish Live Longer

Members of the 64-and-older set whose blood is rich in dietary omega-3s lived an average of 2.2 years longer.

www.theatlantic.com

I should imagine there is a fair bit more plastic and chemicals in every fish these days than there used to be.

 

[Healer Flame]

I should imagine there is a fair bit more plastic and chemicals in every fish these days than there used to be.

Mmmm...comparing to how massive the ocean is, the effect is very small.

 

[Mac... nificent]

What is a balanced diet, and how can people create one?

A balanced diet fulfils all of a person’s nutritional needs and includes foods from the 5 essential food groups. Learn more about building a healthful, balanced diet here.

www.medicalnewstoday.com

Study: People Who Eat More Fish Live Longer

Members of the 64-and-older set whose blood is rich in dietary omega-3s lived an average of 2.2 years longer.

www.theatlantic.com

Yeah, and then there is something called common sense;

https://oehha.ca.gov/fish/chemicals-fish

Why fish may become more toxic than ever

New research warns that levels of a toxic compound are on the rise in many species of fish and that this trend is set to continue. The question is: Why?

www.medicalnewstoday.com

comparing to how massive the ocean is, the effect is very small.

Hundreds of fish species, including many that humans eat, are consuming plastic

As more and more plastic trash permeates the oceans, fragments are making their way into fish and shellfish – and potentially into humans.

theconversation.com

Microplastic is leading to big problems for fish in the ocean

Newborn fish are mistaking tiny bits of trash for food. If they die, there’ll be fewer big fish—and that could rattle the food chain.

www.nationalgeographic.com

 

[Apple fanboy]

Mmmm...comparing to how massive the ocean is, the effect is very small.

I think that’s the opposite to every scientific view I’ve read.

 

[Healer Flame]

and then there is something called common sense

think that’s the opposite to every scientific view I’ve read

I am not saying there is no problem with the ocean pollution but its not logic to say there is a plastic and chemicals in every fish.

 

[Apple fanboy]

I am not saying there is no problem with the ocean pollution but its not logic to say there is a plastic and chemicals in every fish.

Google micro plastics. It’s not every fish. Just far too many.

 

[Mac... nificent]

I am not saying there is no problem with the ocean pollution but its not logic to say there is a plastic and chemicals in every fish.

Other than Atlantic Salmon, it's pretty much in all fish that you consume, especially farmed fish. A study published in 2018 found microplastics in the stomachs of 73 percent of fish caught in the Northwest Atlantic. According to a 2017 UN report, there are more than 51 trillion microplastic particles in the sea, more than 500 times the number of stars in the Milky Way.

80% Of Fish In The Amazon River Have Plastic In Their Stomach

80% Of Fish In The Amazon River Have Plastic In Their Stomach

www.iflscience.com

 

[Applefan2015]

But once you start realising how the hens are treated, and start to realise what happens to the males born into that whole industry of using chickens for food… It's not pretty.

Id like to know more about this got a link?

 

[millerj123]

Id like to know more about this got a link?

Is this oblique shade?

You can start with male chick culling: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chick_culling

 

[portland-dude]

I know many people from my community, family and friends who never eat eggs because they believe eggs are unborn chicks and they contain animal parts including nails, eyes and other parts of chicks. Some believe they contain embryo and many other reasons.

Sometimes i found blood or black round stuff when i break eggs, what are they ? Anyone here never eat eggs?

Not understanding basic biology, the HOT new trend.
If they don't understand do you really want to take the time to help them? I mean, this is high school level knowledge they are missing.

 

[Healer Flame]

Not understanding basic biology, the HOT

Its not basic at all, an average person wouldn't know the intensive and wonderful process of creating eggs, egg diseases, fertilization...and so on.


Bit off topic here 👇 but good basic info from heart foundation for those who consume eggs

Eggs and cholesterol - friend or foe?

Eggs seem to have people confused, especially those at increased risk of heart disease. So, in an ‘eggshell’ are they good for us or not?

www.heartfoundation.org.nz

 

[yaxomoxay]

One missing element in this thread: egg whites. Mix 5 egg whites + 1 whole egg and you have 26g of protein for only 135 calories and 5g of fat!

 

[Madhatter32]

One missing element in this thread: egg whites. Mix 5 egg whites + 1 whole egg and you have 26g of protein for only 135 calories and 5g of fat!

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Maybe I'll just go with the egg whites and take a multi-vitamin. I may live forever. Interesting information.

 

[decafjava]

Other than Atlantic Salmon, it's pretty much in all fish that you consume, especially farmed fish. A study published in 2018 found microplastics in the stomachs of 73 percent of fish caught in the Northwest Atlantic. According to a 2017 UN report, there are more than 51 trillion microplastic particles in the sea, more than 500 times the number of stars in the Milky Way.

80% Of Fish In The Amazon River Have Plastic In Their Stomach

80% Of Fish In The Amazon River Have Plastic In Their Stomach

www.iflscience.com

Atlantic salmon? I find it hard to believe they are less contaminated than other fish especially salmon from the Pacific, which are objectively tastier. I have no qualms with eating fish as they have a lot of good stuff we just have to limit the quantity unfortunately. That goes even more for shellfish that are essentially living garbage filters. Tasty filters but filters nonetheless.

I just had egg with my leftover stirfry veggies and mungo bean vermicelli for lunch.

 

[Madhatter32]

Atlantic salmon? I find it hard to believe they are less contaminated than other fish especially salmon from the Pacific, which are objectively tastier. I have no qualms with eating fish as they have a lot of good stuff we just have to limit the quantity unfortunately. That goes even more for shellfish that are essentially living garbage filters. Tasty filters but filters nonetheless.

I just had egg with my leftover stirfry veggies and mungo bean vermicelli for lunch.

I love my fish with a hefty portion of mercury although I try to stay away from the plastic. Planet earth is crying but, I agree, eggs are still delicious.

 

[Bobcat32]

I would never openly say that I'm trying to go vegan because I feel for the animals if comments like yours actually got to me, because there's always at least one person like you; that obviously get some sort of pleasure out of trying to trigger someone else's pain/sadness by making them think about suffering animals.

It always makes me curious, though; I always end up wondering if them getting pleasure out of that is some sort of psychopathy, some weird sexual problem, or maybe they act out because they got abused as children, or just feel small in real life. There just has to be something that's making them feel better by making other people sad by this weird "I like animals getting tortured" flex.

Going out of one's way to get some sort of pleasure/kick out of making others sad about suffering animals just seems like something a normal person wouldn't do; I at least would like to think that the normal person isn't that much of a psychopath/lacking empathy and sympathy. Sadly it would explain the current state of the world, though. 🤷

Perhaps you could, if it doesn't feel too personal for you, share what it was that gave you pleasure about doing that in this case?

I would find that very interesting, and it absolutely would fit in with OPs question about how people do or don't eat eggs; perhaps you while eating eggs even prefer to think of them as early stage animals?

Right dude? It’s same exact people who proudly proclaim “I like mine still moo ing” when they refer to their steaks. As in still red and with blood juices leaking out etc. Yuck

 

[Bobcat32]

I refuse to use paper anymore. Too much pain for the trees. As for eggs, they were never alive to begin with ... so I eat them gleefully and enjoy it.

Why gleefully? Gleeful means in a joyful and triumphant manner. That means you revile in a morbid joy while eating... Eggs?? If it’s paper you are eating then you should be feeling nothing and anything but... full. Not gleeful. Lol?

 

[philosopherdog]

The owner of that website, Michael Greger, is very biased. I used to follow him but then I stopped after he said a few things that I knew weren't true. There was a study that claimed eggs were bad for you, but many health and nutritional experts have weighed in on the study, pointing out its multiple flaws. The study claim eggs caused issues by raising your cholesterol, but higher egg intake was actually related to lower LDL (so-called “bad” cholesterol associated with CVD). So there is a clear contradiction with the findings. There have been several meta-analyses that have also refuted the claim that egg consumption raises your risk for CVD. The bottom line is that eggs contain valuable vitamins and minerals, including selenium, vitamins B2 (riboflavin), B5 (pantothenic acid), B7 (biotin) and B12, protein, iodine (many people are low in this), plus vitamin D, zinc, omega-3 fats, lutein, zeaxanthin and choline. There is no way that those vitamins and minerals are bad for your health, in fact, just the opposite.

Actually there is a pretty wide consensus if you're talking about science. Eggs are better than some foods but generally they promote disease if eaten in all but the smallest quantity as they spike IGF1, are high in saturated fats, dietary cholestero, and are generally lacking fiber, antioxidants, etc. Legumes, for instance, are a far better f choice. So, you can eat far better foods and you should. Gregor is looking at the science which most health bloggers and other non-experts who tout eggs as a health food are not doing. The science overwhelming supports eating whole plant foods and broadly shows eating animal products like eggs beyond very small quantities is deleterios to human health.

 

[philosopherdog]

I recall a conversation with one of my vegan colleagues about eggs. She (millennial snow flake we will call her!) told me eggs were really bad for the chickens and the environment.

I counted with how many chickens would be alive in the UK if nobody ate eggs? Also a chicken producing eggs locally is surly better for the environment than shipping an avocado from the other side of the globe.

Apparently I was wrong though! Funny that isn't it?

As if avacados are the only things vegans eat! Presummably we could simply move roosters away from hens to solve any over population problem you think justifies our violent and unjustified confinement and torture of chickens for their reproductive organs. You do understand that eggs are mostly not fertile as they come out of your grocery store?

 

[Apple fanboy]

As if avacados are the only things vegans eat! Presummably we could simply move roosters away from hens to solve any over population problem you think justifies our violent and unjustified confinement and torture of chickens for their reproductive organs. You do understand that eggs are mostly not fertile as they come out of your grocery store?

I live in the country. My dad was a butcher for 40 years. I used to play in the abattoir as a child most summers. Pretty sure I’m fully up to speed!