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Can people please STOP with these already? The "first world problem" meme is old and stale.. let it go.
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Phil Schiller Claims Customers Aren't Asking for Built-In Blu-Ray Anymore
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Can people please STOP with these already? The "first world problem" meme is old and stale.. let it go.
I prefer a physical blu-ray-based movie as opposed to digital download for a couple reasons. Not having to download it frees up my internet for other things. I don't have to wait for it to download or fill up HDD space. And, considering I work in a secure area, we can't stream movies there. So on those long quiet night shifts, its great having movies to play in the blu-ray player to help the time go by.
I'll just leave Phil's bulge to you, since you seem so interested in it.
Don't hate the chin.
So for three years now huh? Guess it didn't die out as fast as you thought it would. I think most are speaking about any drive as you are. Not sure about your world but in mine dvd's make big money, every weekend and after certain events. Medical facilities, Courts, Church's also require certain things for their needs but I should thank those who moved away from it because you were cluttering up my mile and now it opens up the bank much more for those like me who can comprehend the necessity of both needs and not just the needs/thoughts of one
Full 1080P Blu-ray Discs for under ten dollars and the ability to sell, trade give away or overpriced compressed digital downloads at lower quality and twice the price with no real control over it. There is a reason I like blu-ray.
And Apple saying something is dead hardly makes it true, you think slow 5400 drives would be dead, sense that does not effect their iTunes Store they do not care.
When I think of living in the past that normally would be something that is still not selling millions of copies.
Mac mini with bluray drive? Yes! As it is now? Nope. I imagine more people would not buy it for lack of a drive then people who would not because it has one.
That many people here would avoid a Mac mini or iMac because it has an extra half inch? Seems far fetched.
Exernal? No! Not buying an all in one or Mac mini to add an external drive to it.
A Mac mini running osx windows along with a blu ray drive? Perfect!
My four hundred dollar laptop has a bluray drive.
And Apple saying something is dead hardly makes it true, you think slow 5400 drives would be dead, sense that does not effect their iTunes Store they do not care.
When I think of living in the past that normally would be something that is still not selling millions of copies.
Mac mini with bluray drive? Yes! As it is now? Nope. I imagine more people would not buy it for lack of a drive then people who would not because it has one.
That many people here would avoid a Mac mini or iMac because it has an extra half inch? Seems far fetched.
Exernal? No! Not buying an all in one or Mac mini to add an external drive to it.
A Mac mini running osx windows along with a blu ray drive? Perfect!
My four hundred dollar laptop has a bluray drive.
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Its a bummer that the "majority" want blu-ray in their computers but apple won't do it. I wonder how they still turn a profit?
Face it, not everyone is the same, If you don't like it don't buy it. The thing is most people OBVIOUSLY don't want it.
When running a billion dollar company, making poor business decisions based on the old "everyone wants X" is a bad idea. If it was cheap enough and would actually turn a profit apple would do it, and so would any other for profit company.
The fact is most consumer grade laptops and desktops don't have blu-ray, you should go complain to, Lenovo, Samsung, MSI, HP, Toshiba, ASUS, ACER, etc too.
Of course you can do build to order options and get blu-ray, you can also buy external drives for blu-ray too.
as always, I love to see the anti apple and pro apple battle for 20 pages but every time someone posts something logical everyone ignores it.
Face it, not everyone is the same, If you don't like it don't buy it. The thing is most people OBVIOUSLY don't want it.
When running a billion dollar company, making poor business decisions based on the old "everyone wants X" is a bad idea. If it was cheap enough and would actually turn a profit apple would do it, and so would any other for profit company.
The fact is most consumer grade laptops and desktops don't have blu-ray, you should go complain to, Lenovo, Samsung, MSI, HP, Toshiba, ASUS, ACER, etc too.
Of course you can do build to order options and get blu-ray, you can also buy external drives for blu-ray too.
as always, I love to see the anti apple and pro apple battle for 20 pages but every time someone posts something logical everyone ignores it.
I have 2 blu-ray players at home -- these were from being an early adopter. I also have about 50 blu-ray disc in my collection; which I stopped buying/using since 2007. Since I've never really quite turn on my bluray device to watch a full movie --- I once decided to watch Wall-E; and got disgusted with the force advertisement and trailers that I couldn't even skipped past. Not to mention the LONG boot time, and LONG start up time just to watch the movie. Using Wall-E again, it took me 15 minutes just to boot up, watch all the forced advertisement, just to get to the start of the movie!!
Then Amazon/iTune came along and I just buy digital copies off them instead. Quality is comparable, and never really turn on my DVD, or Blu-Ray player since.
I wish I can trade in my DVD/blu-ray collection for digital copies.
So, yes, blu-ray may be a little better, but it's really inconvenient. I think I may still buy 1 or 2 bluray of some movie I really really need to watch at the highest possible res; but the rest will be digital.
P.S, I'm going to remove my internal superdrive on my macbook pro, and replace it with a HDD; I barely used it at all since I got it. Wished I could an extended battery there instead.
Then Amazon/iTune came along and I just buy digital copies off them instead. Quality is comparable, and never really turn on my DVD, or Blu-Ray player since.
I wish I can trade in my DVD/blu-ray collection for digital copies.
So, yes, blu-ray may be a little better, but it's really inconvenient. I think I may still buy 1 or 2 bluray of some movie I really really need to watch at the highest possible res; but the rest will be digital.
P.S, I'm going to remove my internal superdrive on my macbook pro, and replace it with a HDD; I barely used it at all since I got it. Wished I could an extended battery there instead.
I had a hard time finding a laptop with a good screen and bluray drive for under five hundred. Did, took a bit. Not enough laptops have bluray drives. Want one because my laptop is where I do everything, no tv screen.
Maybe we could all do what they did in that one South Park where all the guys (and it's a web forum so I am thinking it's mostly dudes here) get into a big pile and just start humping on each other in front of the Cupertino campus. Maybe it will bring some kind of peaceful resolution where everyone will get what they want???
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I used to own hundreds of VHS tapes. Then DVD came along. Sold all my VHS on eBay, and collected nearly 1000 DVDs. Then Blu-Ray came out. So, I sold all my DVDs started buying Blu-Rays, and then I realized that I am an idiot
I now own 0 DVDs and 2 Blu-Rays. Last time I used my Blu-Ray player was 2 years ago. Physical medias are dead to me as well. Online streaming is clearly the future and it doesn't take up a ridiculous amount of space for large collections
I had to use a space saving method, art binders and hanging file cases and I had about five hundred films along with tv shows. Aside from needing some extra cash, I am just not caring anymore, there is always more buy buy buy, meh, no longer feel like it. A thousand dollars for three Star Trek series? Library and or Netflix will do for now, and people say, what if they remove them? I guess it is just not a big deal.
I love hidef, sometimes basic cheap streaming is fine because I just want to see it. One can love movies and just own a hand full.
That's 3 months of unlimited streaming Netflix, much of the content thereon being indistinguishable from BR to most observers more interested in sufficient content than technical perfection. That's up to 1000 movies for the price of 1.
The sun has already set on blue ray in all of what, 5 years or so? Download speeds and more convenient storage options have already eclipsed it. It's pretty obvious that Steve Jobs and others foresaw this at Apple long ago. Sure, a few cranks will still whine about the lack of built-in CD or blue ray in the latest laptops, but seriously, the demographics show that the vast majority of users have no use for them. Apple is not going to weigh down their hardware with rarely used features/peripherals. That's for the clunky PC manufacturers. When did PCs finally stop offering 3.5" floppies, 2002?
Oh and New Zealand has no major streaming systems like Netflix and iTunes is limited, mainly because local networks want to retain their archaic way of terrestrial broadcasts.
Blu-ray will come and go in half the time DVDs stuck around. Blu-ray was a temp technology from the get go filling in the gap until HD streaming becomes available easily and cheaply. With Smart TVs and the abundance of HD digital television offerings there is virtually no argument to "need" one.
I am going to assume that most of the posters saying that Blurauy and Netflix streaming are comparable are watching on 34" TVs or perhaps they just enjoy the "blocky look".
I do watch a lot of TV series via Netflix, but when I DO pop in a Bluray it is always "Wow, can't believe how much better this looks compared to Netflix".
Sounds better too, but the increase in picture quality is night and day. I am using a 60" TV. I used to have a 32" Sony CRT HDTV and the difference between Bluray and DVD was moderate on that. It was only when that TV mercifully died that I got the 60", and I see that already they are making bigger ones.
Until everyone has a T1 line into their Apple TV there isn't really a comparison. I put a Bluray player in my Mac Pro but haven't watched any movies on it. I did pay for the software and can whenever, but why not walk 25 ft to the living room and watch it on a much larger screen?
I think we all know that the REAL reason Apple is making this stand is that they can "cut themselves in" on iTunes, but have no profit incentive on Bluray sales. Everyone wants to "cut themselves in" to the Hollywood cash cow and this is Apple's "in".
The fact is, it doesn't need to be "either/or", but Apple is making the case that it is. And if you were getting a % from the iTunes Store of things you normally wouldn't get a % from in a Bluray world, you might too. Phil & the boys know it is a bunch of hooey but their job is to make money for Apple, not provide you with the BEST movie watching experience.
I do watch a lot of TV series via Netflix, but when I DO pop in a Bluray it is always "Wow, can't believe how much better this looks compared to Netflix".
Sounds better too, but the increase in picture quality is night and day. I am using a 60" TV. I used to have a 32" Sony CRT HDTV and the difference between Bluray and DVD was moderate on that. It was only when that TV mercifully died that I got the 60", and I see that already they are making bigger ones.
Until everyone has a T1 line into their Apple TV there isn't really a comparison. I put a Bluray player in my Mac Pro but haven't watched any movies on it. I did pay for the software and can whenever, but why not walk 25 ft to the living room and watch it on a much larger screen?
I think we all know that the REAL reason Apple is making this stand is that they can "cut themselves in" on iTunes, but have no profit incentive on Bluray sales. Everyone wants to "cut themselves in" to the Hollywood cash cow and this is Apple's "in".
The fact is, it doesn't need to be "either/or", but Apple is making the case that it is. And if you were getting a % from the iTunes Store of things you normally wouldn't get a % from in a Bluray world, you might too. Phil & the boys know it is a bunch of hooey but their job is to make money for Apple, not provide you with the BEST movie watching experience.
The only reason I'd want Blu-Ray for my Mac is so I can finally get rid of my PS3. It collects dust, only to play the rare monthly blu-ray. I'd love to reclaim that entertainment-stand space.
I want Blu-Ray ... even just for backups it'll be great. 25GB - 50GB per disc...
USB drives have a <10 year life span. Optical discs have 25 - 200 year storage.
As for sharing videos ... uploading a 4GB HD movie for friends and family is not fun with 1 mbit upload.
Perhaps, but North American ISPs don't offer decent upload speeds... so transferring large home videos between friends and family will remain difficult.
USB drives have a <10 year life span. Optical discs have 25 - 200 year storage.
As for sharing videos ... uploading a 4GB HD movie for friends and family is not fun with 1 mbit upload.
Perhaps, but North American ISPs don't offer decent upload speeds... so transferring large home videos between friends and family will remain difficult.
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100Gb is 4 dollars a month with Amazon S3 system. That is the last 30 years of my entire family's photo album. As for safety, I'm sure it's much better than some DVD store next to the kitchen or study room.
Stop it. You made me start laughing and my wife's going to wake up.
Sorry popped into my head, which may be a bad thing.... This thread reminds me, I need to buy "the avengers" Blu ray DVD combo pack. Saw that in my friends theatre room, 106 inch screen. Gorgeous!!
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To retrieve casette data, all you need to do is playback the data into a .wav file then convert it using ATDPro.
Was there any claim of archival capabilities for 8" floppies?
Punch cards can be read through OCR type software, you can build one out of lego! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcwxW2ne-UU
Word reads works.
Computer technology is much more prevalent today, there is a lot more computer hardware around today, which will make it easier to obtain 20 - 30 years from now.
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