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I have a question: if the butterfly keyboard is that bad (and I’m not referring to reliability issues) why didn’t Schiller’s product marketing team tell the designers and engineers that it would never be acceptable to pro customers? Isn’t it Schiller’s team who has a direct relationship with pro customers? Regardless of who thought up the butterfly mechanism the company as a whole signed off on it. Schiller got up on stage and announced it.

The real crisis is the goofy rubber button keyboards on the floppy iPad pro's which executives are now using because the retina macbook has been discontinued.
 
You have no idea how they are being used. When you have a kid, school aged, then opine.

agree on creation. But having kids sucked into the google monitoring ecosystem is really dangerous. Yes, they are protected until 18, but email addresses are sticky so they're not likely to leave on graduation. id Much rather see an option that's not based on future exploitation of current students
 
Todays announcement did reintroduce a physical ESC key, it will spread to the entire lineup.

The TB is Apples non-admission to incorporating a touchscreen. Granted macOS is not designed for touchUI, trying to duplicate certain functionality on a secondary display that draws ones attention away from the display is counter-intuitive and counter- productive. Hopefully a touchscreen in the years coming.

yes, i know, just wasn't sure if they confirmed that it's coming to the 13" later on.
i agree about the touch bar. they may phase it out, if not they need to put it on their separate keyboards. i usually use my laptop folded under the display with a keyboard and mouse, so wouldn't get to use the tb much anyway.
 
I actually use it quite a bit, esp when it comes to filling forms/text boxes

Genuinely curious how it helps with text boxes. I don't have a computer with a Touch Bar, and can't ever see myself getting one because I use the function keys so much.
 
They should have listened to the rest of the complaints about the touch bar and got rid of the thing all together.

It may be omitted when both a 14” is released to keep the product features alike. 2020 or 2021 is when the complete transition should happen for the MBP line.

This is Apple’s way of admitting it made a mistake, the change will happen overtime and not in one swoop unfortunately.
 
It sounds like they cleaned up the room noise audio for Phil's answers, but if they really recorded the whole interview with the internal microphone, it did an impressive job.
 
Probably comeback as an ARM based product as the processor in those rMB were worse performers compared to an iPad. Only saving grace was macOS.

I loved the size, weight of the device but it should have incorporated two USB-C, microSD slot for a competitive product. With the intro of external drive support within iOS this is a good indicator of a future ARM laptop.

Yes on the processor, but that also applies to the Air. There might have been a heat sink issue where they needed a larger chassis, but that should less and less of an issue with the newer processors.

The one USB-C I also agree on. It was nearly mean not having two.
 
yes, i know, just wasn't sure if they confirmed that it's coming to the 13" later on.
i agree about the touch bar. they may phase it out, if not they need to put it on their separate keyboards. i usually use my laptop folded under the display with a keyboard and mouse, so wouldn't get to use the tb much anyway.

TB is an odd design choice tbh. It just does not fit well when someone has to look down at the KB area to perform an action. Even if that TB was placed on the display panel below it would have made more sense. Clamshell mode renders all built-in input methods useless and really is not a place for any complaints ;)
 
Yes on the processor, but that also applies to the Air. There might have been a heat sink issue where they needed a larger chassis, but that should less and less of an issue with the newer processors.

The one USB-C I also agree on. It was nearly mean not having two.

macOS hardware is designed with longevity in-mind, the rMBA heatsink issue is a big concern overtime. Even though my machines are a business expense I do not upgrade often. My Mac hardware usually is kept for 5-8 years as the deciding factor is reliability of the machine, downtime and macOS updates for security issues.

rMBA is a termal risk and liability that I cannot afford. Having a great display is one thing but if that display cannot be powered as the computer internals are being fried with every extensive use that tells me the engineering dept took a back seat to the marketing team

Oh so shiny and beautiful!! But it will break and cause known future problem, no thank you.
 
I totally agree that Chromebooks are stupid to put in schools. However, I feel the same way about iPads.

The business world is almost all Windows, (outside of servers) and devs/engineers/creatives are all pretty split between Windows and MacOS. So what should an out of touch school system do? Definitely buy iPads and Chromebooks.
 
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Genuinely curious how it helps with text boxes. I don't have a computer with a Touch Bar, and can't ever see myself getting one because I use the function keys so much.
When a text box is selected in Safari, it shows predictive suggestions (like above the keyboard on iOS) and does AutoFill for addresses, names, credit cards, etc., the same way.
 
I don't mind the Touch Bar, and it some ways it's actually quite useful. However, I much prefer having physical function/media keys, vs a dynamic interface that requires you to hunt and peck for the key you want. What would be great is if Apple added back the F keys AND kept the Touch Bar. I have to imagine there is more than enough room on this 16" MBP for both.
 
"To its credit, Apple listened and made the change"

Why do we have to give credit to companies that listen to their customers. Isn't that what companies are supposed to do? Is the acceptable default for companies not to listen.

Because you want to encourage them to continue to do precisely that. Neither costs you anything, and the former makes everyone happy, so what’s the harm?
 
TB is an odd design choice tbh. It just does not fit well when someone has to look down at the KB area to perform an action. Even if that TB was placed on the display panel below it would have made more sense. Clamshell mode renders all built-in input methods useless and really is not a place for any complaints ;)

that would be nice, i suppose, if (at least) one part of the display was touch compatible. eventually apple will get there, maybe)
 
So they take the No 1 complaint and fix that terrible mistake but what about complaints No 2 and 3 etc?
What about all those who complained about not having dedicated volume buttons and screen brightness buttons???
 
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Any reason why Phil wasn’t asked about the 720P FaceTime camera or the lack of WiFi 6 at this price point?
 
Completely unnecessary shot at chromebooks.
well as a recent owner of a pixelbook go after 25 years using apple computers i can honestly this thing is better than any of the crap apple has released in the last 6 or more years.

in fact it's because of the utter garbage apple keep releasing this may be the first of many products that leads me completely away from apple.
 
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Has anybody asked Phil why Apple chose NOT to support "HDR" Video Playback with its new 16" ?

500 nits Brightness is strictly SDR !

One would think that for the Coin Apple wants for their new 16," they would have included a better Display !

Would have been happy with 725 nits, but certainly NOT 500 nits !

Hey man, don’t go nit-picking on Phil on release day! This is supposed to be 😎🤓
 
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