Hey, my couch doesn't know how to turn my phone off (or he is really stupid) but LOVES stealing it. Find my iPhone gives him away every time.
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Phil Schiller Goes on Offensive Against Android and Samsung
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Hey, my couch doesn't know how to turn my phone off (or he is really stupid) but LOVES stealing it. Find my iPhone gives him away every time.
Precisely, and yes. And such is the case for 98% you know the regular Joe. We are a very tiny (vocal, but tiny) minority and it would do well for many to remember that here.
I've said from the beginning that Android was the default choice. It's what your salesperson at the carrier store hands you for "FREE" or nearly so when you waltz in every two years. And for many, that's all they want. Good enough.
Flame away fAndroids but you know it's true. The vast majority are not paying the big bucks for decent Androids - maybe the geeks here but not mom and pop who comprise the majority. And that's where the money is made.
You are digging for something. Thats not a lot of phones. I have had an iPhone 3, iPhone 3G, 2xiphone 4, iPhone 4S and an iPhone 5. I been happy with my experience so your logic is incredibly flawed.
That still doesn't answer my first question. Remember it was you that said Google copied iOS, I asked for validation, you still haven't produced it.
Because Samsung never tried to bash the competition right before their competitors released a new product, huh?
And maybe you don't remember, but the iPhone 5 is now nearly 6 months old.
How come that Apple is doomed when a competitor releases a new product six months after the new iPhone, but Samsung wasn't doomed when Apple released their new product 3.5 months after the release of the Galaxy S III?
So, the SGS IV might have a faster CPU/GPU than the iPhone 5 and therefore Apple is doomed - did everybody forget that the iPhone 5 had a faster CPU and GPU than the SGS III?
And Apple didn't lead in the performance race for only a bit more than three months like the Galaxy S III but for SIX months.(The LG Optimus G and the NExus 4 don't count, because absolutely nobody buys a LG device and the Nexus 4 had thermal-throttling under load)
Oh, they want... well, they have no idea, but it has to be different and better and exciting and of course different (did i mention that?).
Because they think iOS has become boring.
And when Apple pulls a Microsoft Metro on iOS, they complain that everything is different, that they miss XY and that they won't use it.
People never complained that Windows 7 was boring, it's an operating system and not the newest release of Game 2013.
But many complained when Windows 8 was totally different than what they have used for years.
It's unbelievable how the constant changing of design and functionality of Android from 1.1 to 4.0 (and even beyond) has been spun as interesting change instead of "Having no plan for long term evolution" in recent years.
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No offense but when I see people using terms such as this, it makes them look, and sound ignorant. Just because someone likes a particular mobile OS doesn't make them a "sheep"
Haven't booted a new iPhone in awhile. My last phone was the 4S and iOS 5. I honestly don't remember it prompting me but I'll take your word for it. Regardless - I don't (personally) remotely think that find my iphone is a make it or break it feature.
Why do people keep thinking that android is winning because it is outselling iOS. When you have so many different devices and vendors going against essentially a single hardware then obviously android will outsell iOS.
Use your brains people. If iOS was available for other vendors to use then it'd be a different story.
Use your brains people. If iOS was available for other vendors to use then it'd be a different story.
It doesn't matter, exploiting is exploiting. Every major version of iOS that I can recall have been exploited, and the sheer number of people downloading the jailbreak software have gone way into several millions in just the first day of release each time. I personally JB all my devices because I simply can't stand the plethora of crappy apps in the Apple App Store.
Android on the other hand have always provided a means to use third party apps not found in their Android Marketplace/Google Play store. Unlike iOS, it's a native function for Android devices.
Blarg... These arguments get old so fast. After a while you learn that all software is horrible in it's own unique ways. The only arguments that you can make with honesty are variations of X software is less frustrating than Y software to person A in situation B.
Nobody is winning. Nobody ever wins. Companies go bankrupt or move on to the next This VS That.
Just be glad that dependency hell wasn't carried over to smartphones.
Nobody is winning. Nobody ever wins. Companies go bankrupt or move on to the next This VS That.
Just be glad that dependency hell wasn't carried over to smartphones.
While Android undoubtably looks similar to iOS, I think the problem is manufacturers like Samsung that customize their roms to look like or ever offer services that blatantly copy Apple's direction.
Yeah.. and this is coming from the people that couldn't release stable software in their rMBP (and have yet to truly do so). Where's 10.8.3 and the improvement? EFI problems among other things, while webkit is a partial yet unjustifiable solution for the browser issues - it shouldn't have to be.
Ok, how about pinch to zoom? There is one example.
Also, if you read my original post, I said that I wasn't personally comfortable with it. I then stated that I wasn't complaining if others didn't have issue.
If you feel that Google made Android without being inspired by iOS then go ahead and think it. I don't know you from Adam, and frankly have no interest in changing your mind. It's your money, spend it on whatever device you like.
Enjoy it!
Apple it looks like you have moved from being an innovator to a company lagging behind. I am referring to the iPhone. If the iPhone 5S has a similar form factor to the iPhone 5, please expect further market share losses while others come up with new and innovative designs. For starters, could we please have a phone with a larger screen?
Barely able to catch up? Can you explain this? Do Android phones make you fly or turn invisible or something?
I'm not being a smart ass. I want to know what I am missing!
I have a MacBook and ipad and have used apple for quite some time. I'm on Cincinnati bell which does not offer iPhone. In the alternative I have an htc one s and I'm quite pleased with it. I've also been impressed by the galaxy. That being said I've used others android phones with older or modified operating systems and I can see the fragmentation argument. On the right device android is a worthy os but it can also be a ***** show
I honestly think that Apple's in a tough spot. Sincerely. Radical changes upset the user base - and if executed wrong/badly are serious hits.
Apple has been the "untouchable" company and a media darling - and yet - the same media is looking for failure.
Conversely - Samsung and their new phone is something the media is rooting for and/or at least wanting to see be a true contender. It makes for good headlines and link bait.
If Samsung doesn't deliver - media wise - it's not nearly as "catastrophic" as if Apple were to falter.
Perhaps yet another bad analogy - it's like when an A+ student always gets A's - you just expect them it loses a bit of excitement. Anything less is cause for concern. But if there's a B student and every once in awhile - he gets an A - everyone gets excited. If they go back to getting a B - it's not that big of a deal.
Apple has been the "untouchable" company and a media darling - and yet - the same media is looking for failure.
Conversely - Samsung and their new phone is something the media is rooting for and/or at least wanting to see be a true contender. It makes for good headlines and link bait.
If Samsung doesn't deliver - media wise - it's not nearly as "catastrophic" as if Apple were to falter.
Perhaps yet another bad analogy - it's like when an A+ student always gets A's - you just expect them it loses a bit of excitement. Anything less is cause for concern. But if there's a B student and every once in awhile - he gets an A - everyone gets excited. If they go back to getting a B - it's not that big of a deal.
Is it copying or is it just the natural development direction of where it was going anyway, where Apple simply got there first? Think about how cars were developed with the first model had round wheels and rubber tires, a round steering wheel with a variable drivetrain. The horse-driven wagon was bound to evolve into something like a car given enough time.
You're missing the point by skewing off my simple question to you. You said very clearly that Google copied iOS, I merely asked you to prove that statement because otherwise it seems like blind conjecture to me.
Pinch to zoom was already in existence in other devices. My old Pentium 2 Thinkpad had pinch to zoom on the touchpad, does this mean Apple blatantly copied IBM for that feature or did Apple take advantage of a great idea and applied it to their devices?
Apple computers didn't originally employ more than 1 mouse button but Windows did ever since they started moving onto keyboard and mouse driven OS's. Does that mean Apple blatantly copied Microsoft (and the PC platform) for the right-click function? No. Apple simply acknowledged the utility and benefits towards the user to offer a second or third button.
You seem to believe that everything has some kind of malicious intent on copying Apple or something.
os x is the best os in the world
omg, really? don't get me started! how bout beign built on obj-c from the ground up? how about having drivers built in? how about UNIX, for ****s sake? i can do more in a terminal command than people can do in a week on windows. Cygwin is a POS. How bout a rock solid BSD based kernel? how about EFI for the last 10 years? How about RUNNING WINDOWS?
in my honest opinion, as a technologically educated person, OS X is the best OS out there. Android is linux, its a start, but you can't really tell its built on a lightweight framework because the HW integration is only coming along recently and everything is ran through a dalvik VM.
Phil, you don't need to defend apple, you need to ignore the competition and move forward. Android still can't have touch instruments because their latency is so bad. Its a reactionary platform and if Apple starts reacting to the reactors, then Apple is bound to fall behind.
PC/android folk do not have a single legit argument except the openness. stick to that one and quit flaming on macrumor forums
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omg, really? don't get me started! how bout beign built on obj-c from the ground up? how about having drivers built in? how about UNIX, for ****s sake? i can do more in a terminal command than people can do in a week on windows. Cygwin is a POS. How bout a rock solid BSD based kernel? how about EFI for the last 10 years? How about RUNNING WINDOWS?
in my honest opinion, as a technologically educated person, OS X is the best OS out there. Android is linux, its a start, but you can't really tell its built on a lightweight framework because the HW integration is only coming along recently and everything is ran through a dalvik VM.
Phil, you don't need to defend apple, you need to ignore the competition and move forward. Android still can't have touch instruments because their latency is so bad. Its a reactionary platform and if Apple starts reacting to the reactors, then Apple is bound to fall behind.
PC/android folk do not have a single legit argument except the openness. stick to that one and quit flaming on macrumor forums
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